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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:14 PM Mar 2012

Arizona bill to establish armed, state militia moves to full House

Source: Arizona Republic

A bill establishing an armed, volunteer militia to patrol the Arizona-Mexico border for undocumented immigrants and drug traffickers will be debated by the full House.

Senate Bill 1083, which would create and fund an Arizona Special Missions Unit, advanced Wednesday morning through the House Military Affairs and Public Safety Committee on a party-line 6-3 vote after lengthy debate. The bill next goes to the Rules Committee for vetting, then to the floor of the House for a debate.

... When called into duty, members of the unit could detain and arrest suspects until a law-enforcement agency takes over, and would have immunity for acts that occur while on duty -- similar to immunity granted to police and other law enforcement that prevents prosecution while doing their jobs.

The legislation also would allow the state guard to seize assets in instances where it cooperates with state or local law enforcement agencies.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/03/14/20120314bill-establish-armed-state-militia-moves-full-house.html

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Arizona bill to establish armed, state militia moves to full House (Original Post) Newsjock Mar 2012 OP
What's next will AZ move to seceded Justice wanted Mar 2012 #1
"allow the state guard to seize assets" arcane1 Mar 2012 #2
The Arizona government has gone totally radical Taliban. appleannie1 Mar 2012 #3
THey really are trying to out-crazy SoCalNative Mar 2012 #4
The funny thing is Drale Mar 2012 #5
At least they are not thinking Carrier Battlegroup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #6
I think they'll regret EC Mar 2012 #7
This rough malitia will probably receive a "bounty" for every illegal they crunch60 Mar 2012 #15
There's not just one every day anymore. woo me with science Mar 2012 #8
Well it is clearly unconstitutional. Only Congress can raise an army. yellowcanine Mar 2012 #9
Not unconstitutional Hangingon Mar 2012 #13
But the TX Guard is limited ceile Mar 2012 #16
"Point of fact, no one wants to mess with Border Patrol" apocalypsehow Mar 2012 #17
Actually it is if the mission is to patrol the border. That is a Federal function. yellowcanine Mar 2012 #19
Kansas and Florida must have pooled their resources and paid Arizona to do a lot of stupid shit. 11 Bravo Mar 2012 #10
Somehow I don't see our Southern neighbors (Baja and Sonora) being happy about this. ceile Mar 2012 #11
I can't imagine the repub AZ lawmakers looking at any big picture. n/t cynatnite Mar 2012 #12
It's official: Arizona's government has gone off the deep end. Initech Mar 2012 #14
Arizona now has HB2625, allows ANY EMPLOYER to deny contraception coverage NAO Mar 2012 #18
22 states have State Defense Forces in accordance with 32 USC 109 and SCOTUS has weighed in Kennah Mar 2012 #20

Drale

(7,932 posts)
5. The funny thing is
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:31 PM
Mar 2012

back in the day, when the country actually needed Militia's, they had to promise the people free beer inorder to get them to come out to drill.

EC

(12,287 posts)
7. I think they'll regret
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:35 PM
Mar 2012

this. I see more law suits in their future. There are going to be so many yahoo's thinking this gives them carte-blanc to "catch illegals" any way they can, including with violence. I don't see too many of them waiting for law enforcement.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
15. This rough malitia will probably receive a "bounty" for every illegal they
Reply to EC (Reply #7)
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 05:48 PM
Mar 2012

turn in. Great incentive for these goons. Like $200.00 a head, just like some third world countries.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
9. Well it is clearly unconstitutional. Only Congress can raise an army.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:40 PM
Mar 2012

State militias (National Guard) are subject to Federalization by the President.

And what happens if this group gets into a skirmish with the U.S. Border Patrol?

ceile

(8,692 posts)
16. But the TX Guard is limited
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 05:56 PM
Mar 2012

"The Texas State Guard is a state defense force that assists and augments Texas military and civil authorities in times of state emergencies, and in on-going support of National Guard units and local communities."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_State_Guard

And I do not see that changing. Point of fact, no one wants to mess with Border Patrol.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
17. "Point of fact, no one wants to mess with Border Patrol"
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 07:23 PM
Mar 2012

Gosh, I guess that's why not a single undocumented immigrant has made it across the border in the last few years.

Oh, wait....

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
19. Actually it is if the mission is to patrol the border. That is a Federal function.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 09:15 PM
Mar 2012

Call it what you will. It is unconstitutional and the Federal Courts will slap it down forthwith.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
10. Kansas and Florida must have pooled their resources and paid Arizona to do a lot of stupid shit.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:51 PM
Mar 2012

I guess they decided it was another state's turn to be the national laughing stock.

ceile

(8,692 posts)
11. Somehow I don't see our Southern neighbors (Baja and Sonora) being happy about this.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 05:08 PM
Mar 2012

If this passes, how long before Mexican and US troops are involved? I don't think AZ's lawmakers are looking at the big picture...

NAO

(3,425 posts)
18. Arizona now has HB2625, allows ANY EMPLOYER to deny contraception coverage
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 08:34 PM
Mar 2012

thread here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1038312

excerpt:

...House Bill 2625, which the state House of Representatives passed earlier this month and the Senate Judiciary Committee endorsed on Monday...allows any employer to refuse to cover contraception that will be used "for contraceptive, abortifacient, abortion or sterilization purposes." If a woman wants the cost of her contraception covered, she has to "submit a claim" to her employer providing evidence of a medical condition, such as endometriosis or polycystic ovarian syndrome, that can be treated with birth control...

***

I found the story here:

Arizona Birth Control Bill Penalizes Women For Using Contraception For Non-Medical Reasons
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/14/arizona-birth-control-bill-contraception-medical-reasons_n_1344557.html

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