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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:15 AM Dec 2013

I noticed "Benghazi" Joe Scar wasn't around today on Morning Joe!

Hiding out a bit until the story dies down, Joe?

Nice that your vacay was timed so well...

It WAS fun to see the pukes tap dance around that story today. Can't wait to see what Rachel and Chris will do tonight...

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Berlum

(7,044 posts)
2. Republicons go AWOL. As usual.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:32 AM
Dec 2013

Republicons do not face up to truth, just as they do not face up to Reponsibility. They go AWOL.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
3. I noticed for the short time I was watching that the panel was still very leery of the NYT article.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:33 AM
Dec 2013

None of them actually gave the article any full-throated approval. I left.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. Thy're lazy. This NYT piece was so detailed and so in-depth, not to mention bravely
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:03 PM
Dec 2013

resarched by the writer, that the panel folks were just embarrassed. None of them had done that kind of hard work. Nope. It's just their job to try to tear it all down, like they are the big experts.

I stand by the Times writer.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
5. Matt Lewis from the Daily Appaller was there to provide the RW meme life support.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:33 AM
Dec 2013

My fave was when he argued against raising minimum wage with the old baloney about employers coping with that by hiring fewer people-- someone quickly debunked that so he rambled on about something else before finally landing back on the original hiring fewer people baloney as if no one called him on that one already.
I wonder if there's a name for that kind of debate technique?

winstars

(4,220 posts)
6. No one really did call him out. Harold Ford said some usual mealy mouthed BS but...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:03 PM
Dec 2013

really did not counter the TOTAL LIES Lewis was spewing. No brought up the fact that it is proven that the "fewer people are hired after raising the minimum wage" meme is totally BS. He then proceeded to their next talking point from Frank Luntz: "so should we raise it to $20 or $30 an hour, where does it stop?" Which of course, no one has ever said except the scumbags who wish the minimum wage was still $1.85 per hour!!!

I caught only some of this exchange but in the part I saw, Little Harold Ford certainly did not disappoint me with the usual bland nothingness that is his thing. Sam Stein was there and he didn't counterpunch much either. Thomas Roberts was there and got a couple of licks in but it was ridiculous really. 95% of the readers here on DU could have countered his lies more effectively, really!!!

And all this when Scabs and Meeka were not even there, isn't it supposed to be a better show when they are off???

I turned my TV off when I then switched to CNN only to hear that freaking Fran Townsend poo poohing the NY Times Benghazi story. I should just stick to the Cooking Channel I think in the morning...

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
7. Harold had his own nonsense going on with that business about...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:53 PM
Dec 2013

...making minimum wage higher for heads of households than for teens flipping burgers.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. I guess they all the get memo that says "both sides do it."
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:01 PM
Dec 2013

Every now and again a liberal guest will challenge that outright LIE but the folks on the panel were held in check with a whip held over their heads...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. that's called the tap dance. I think Sam Stein got him on that inane remark of Matt's about
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 01:58 PM
Dec 2013

hiring teens at lower pay than older workers. Stein simply asked "well, what's to prevent employers from just hiring teenagers?" Matt didn't have a real answer...what an idiot...

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