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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP strategist on MSNBC had an alternative to raising the minimum wage...
"Cut taxes".
He explained how that would put more money in the pockets of minimum wage earners and that extra cash would go directly into the booming economy. Problem/solution. It's so simple when a republican explains it.
Here's the thing... minimum wage earners don't pay taxes, and why should they? If an adult earning $7.50 an hour has to pay 15%-30% to the government, the govt would in turn have to subsidize their income to allow them to live indoors and eat 25 days of the month.
Obviously, the GOP shithead was talking about cutting his own tax liability to line the pockets of the working poor, but he didn't explain how that would happen. Presumably, his tax cut would be funded by eliminating social programs for the very same poor people he would deny a raise.
I don't know why no one pointed out to the dumbass on the show that minimum wage workers don't pay taxes to cut, I was screaming it so loudly at the TV, I'm sure they heard it in the studio.
Maybe the republican moran was talking about cutting property taxes for the working poor so they wouldn't have to shell out for all those little green houses they own on Baltic Ave and Mediterranean Pl.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)If we raise the minimum wage to 15.00 an hour, how much take home after taxes which they will pay at that amount be? Why are we going so low? I make 50 dollars an hour and still am not rolling in the dough ( live in MD). Why not make it 30 dollars an hour where they can really live modestly? I am serious. 15 dollars is not enough.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Not really funny but I laughed
irisblue
(32,980 posts)who was that fool?
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)I have seldom seen such dogged flackery.
The idea that cutting taxes would benefit minimum wage workers more than raising the minimum wage would was some Baghdad Bob level stuff.
G_j
(40,367 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)It just went down unchallenged as one person's solution to poverty wages. I was steamed.
Perhaps it was so looney no one saw it coming, or maybe no one in front of the camera realized that minimum wages put workers below the poverty level where they are rightly tax exempt.
I'm imagine that if pressed on the theory, he'd say that giving himself a tax cut would inspire McDonalds to raise the hourly wage on their own. The invisible hand works mysteriously like that... except when it doesn't.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)House of Roberts
(5,177 posts)Lower taxes on the wealthy means they keep more money.
Lagging wages means less money for Social Security and Medicare also.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Solve the problems caused by cutting taxes with cutting more taxes
These motherfuckers are crazy.
Gothmog
(145,314 posts)Member of the GOP believe that tax cuts are magical and will cause increase economic growth. The facts show that tax cuts do not help the economy.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)They are a one trick pony. Cutting Taxes is all they have. It is all they have ever had..
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That has worked out well.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Vox Moi
(546 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:09 PM - Edit history (1)
How in hell can a rich person like me help the poor if I'm over-taxed?
We polled other rich people an found that of three possible choices, only one is optimal.
1) Raise the minimum wage without a tax break for me
This would prevent me from hiring someone to wash my windows. Lose-lose.
2) Raise the minimum wage and give me a tax break
I can hire somebody and get my windows cleaned. Win-Win
3) Leave the minimum wage where it is and give me a tax break
Now I can get my windows cleaned and hire a second worker to mow the lawn. Win-Win-Win
Clearly the third option is the only solution that is good for America.
It creates two jobs which pay equally and thus reduces the income disparity inherent in option #2, which gives too much money to one worker and leaves the other on welfare.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)loose=opposite of tight
lose=opposite of win
i can't tell if you're kidding, but even your signature has the word misspelled and it's one of my pet peeves.
Vox Moi
(546 posts)It peeves me too because that's the second time somebody pointed that out to me on a DU post.
You are the first to notice the signature line.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)And I frequent sports boards on occasion. IT MAKES ME CRAZY!!!!! And also
Vox Moi
(546 posts)
How's this?
I snoozed and I loosed my mind.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Raise the minimum wage without a tax break for the rich and everybody washes their own windows and mows their own lawns. The exercise makes the rich healthier and the poor don't have to hold down two jobs to eat.
Businesses can reduce their own taxes by hiring people to wash their windows and mow their lawns, deducting the pay to the window-washers and lawn-mowers and give someone a job. That's win-win- win and the best solution of all.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)See Marie Antoinette and Guillotine for originality of like proposals.
EC
(12,287 posts)earned income credits...same issue -but then they have been trying to get rid of earned income credits whenever Dems mention cutting out tax breaks on the fed income taxes...of course they go for the earned income credits instead of say the jet fuel allowance...
He also mentioned vouchers for moving to where there are jobs, which would only work if able to move.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Got a traffic ticket? Cut taxes.
Can't get it up? Cut taxes.
Don't like rain? Cut taxes.
Don't eat breakfast? Cut taxes.
Their bosses need to re-wind those assholes and put different tape into them.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)They might as well advocate getting rid of taxes altogether and push for anarchy. They know they don't want to pay for shit that they supposedly don't use. To Hell with infrastructure and public schools. Fuck paying for the police and the military.
Privatize it all!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)Though I'm sure he was imagining a great tax cut for himself, he specifically noted that a tax cut would "put more money in the hands of minimum wage earners".
He really didn't know that they already don't pay taxes, nor do I think he cared. People on the news shows have to be ready to counter this stupid argument before I have to hear barstool republicans parroting it at the local bar.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)After all, 50% of the people don't pay taxes....remember that canard.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance, being completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction in reasoning.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)They never have any new ideas, and their old ideas have been proved not to work. Still, they keep yammering about cutting taxes.
Th1onein
(8,514 posts)Sooo sick of their crap. I hope Americans are finally waking up to what kind of bull they are trying to feed them.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)We tried the trickle-down shit. It didn't work! The rich just kept the money and got richer and poor stayed poor.
Time to try something different.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)Why don't we let rich people pay up to 10% of -their- tax by donating stocks of equivalent current market value to us? They say the problem is that we can't 'create wealth', and we all know that wealth is created by being in the stock market. Sooooo, since THEY will continue to 'create wealth' regardless of how many stocks they have, and we have none to begin with...why not? It would literally be a 'tax break' of sorts (they pay the tax, we get a break)...
Of course, with my luck they'd donate me something just about to plummet in value.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)Pretty much all supply side tax cuts. The only thing in them about jobs was the title.