Gawker: This Chart Shows Why Sunday Talk Shows Suck

[Scurrilous]

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"Steve Benen of MSNBC figured out all the politicos who've been on serious grownup important Sunday political talk shows more than 10 times in 2013. His colored chart points out that they're nearly all Republicans. But it holds some other angry-making conclusions he didn't highlight.

Benen tallied appearances on "Meet the Press," "Face the Nation," "This Week," "State of the Union," and "Fox News Sunday," concluding that "Sunday shows love Republicans... 10 of the top 13 [guests] are Republicans, as are six of the top seven."

It's a data point, sure. But partisan headcounts mean more to Beltway "WIN THE DAY" scorekeepers than most home viewers. Here are some more telling insights from Benen's chart:

There is precisely one woman on the list, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), who famously voted against enforcement of equal-pay laws for women because it would place a "lot of additional burdens" on "job creators."

There are no men or women of color on the list, unless you count Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), whose father is Cuban, and who has attacked Democrats as "always willing to play the race card."

http://gawker.com/this-chart-shows-why-sunday-talk-shows-suck-1491625630


Liberal media, my @#$!

[snooper2]

1. That doesn't show why they suck...this does...

Network Program Total Viewers A25-54
CBS
“Face the Nation” 3.31M 1.02M
ABC
“This Week” 2.86M 806K
NBC “Meet the Press” 2.77M 819K
FOX “Fox News Sunday” 1.30M 509K
Univision “Al Punto” 638K 245K



10.878 million folks watching cable news sunday talk blah blah blah---

330 million people in the country---


Math Works LOL

[oldandhappy]

13. People on the shows are Republican

and Republicans claim the Lord as belonging to them so why are they not in church??!!

[Cha]

28. the Chart shows why the shows Suck.. and your stats

are the results.

[former9thward]

49. Except you can use the 330 million figure to dismiss anything.

What has a majority or anything close to it? Nothing. The 10.9 million people roughly is close to the number of people in this country who are seriously interested in politics.

[truebluegreen]

2. Not to mention Manchin is a DINO and Schumer is the Senator for Wall Street.

[Enthusiast]

42. I thought the same thing.

And Durbin expressed his support for Chained CPI. So......

[truebluegreen]

45. I'm thinking I see a pattern here.

[Enthusiast]

51. Oh, it's a pattern alright.

The MSM won't allow a peep out of an actual liberal to be heard on TV. It might give the people ideas. They hate us for our freedoms.

[truebluegreen]

52. Well said!

I'm stealing that, just in time for New Year's with the family. Thank you!

[Journeyman]

3. I haven't watched Sunday News Shows for 1,872 weeks . . .

I've no doubt I'm better for it. Just think of all the blithering idiocy I've been spared.

[Cha]

32. I haven't since Nov 2002.. I guess I'll have to do the

math. And, I had watched for only two years before that. Just during the bush-Gore era. I only got into politics in 1999.

I applaud the idiocy you've been spared.. as well as my own!

[Berlum]

4. Super RepubliSuckage (R)

Freaking corporate media is a total wasteland of Republicon propaganda.

[riqster]

5. Boink.

And Rec.

[Scurrilous]

7. Thanks for the boink.

[calimary]

6. Just as I suspected.

Nice to have some proof! Thanks for posting this, Scurrilous!

[Scurrilous]

8. You're welcome!

[orbitalman]

9. Glad Someone Else Is Watching...

I can't stomach these show, at all.

[MsPithy]

10. I have no time to watch the Sunday morning shows,

I am too busy checking DU for Sunday LOLcats!

[Uncle Joe]

11. Even the light of truth can't escape the black hole of their suckiness

I don't watch them anymore and I used to be an avid viewer.


Thanks for the thread,

[Hamlette]

12. This is proof that if God exists, He intends for you not to watch TV on Sunday mornings.

is the last line of the article.

[Jamaal510]

14. This shows how Sunday talk is unbalanced,

but not necessarily how it sucks. The thing that shows the suckiness of Sunday talk would elaborate on how much misinformation is spread, and how much time is devoted to trivial topics in contrast to topics that affect the lives of many people.

[BainsBane]

15. I rarely watch them anymore

Whereas I used to look forward to the Sunday morning shows. They are all just White House and opposition party talking points, nothing more. I grew tired of it.

[Stuart G]

16. Hopefully this will get around to all..what crap..nt

[nyquil_man]

17. Why's it still called Meet the Press, anyway?

It's Meet David Gregory, a prospect about as exciting as watching linoleum peel. Come to think of it, that might explain why the guests are mostly old men.

[MurrayDelph]

20. I guess they figured

they couldn't just call "Meet the incompetent right-wing hack."

[mitty14u2]

18. Does that mean the Polls are not correct or is the Propaganda Working? Scary, You Better VOTE

Poll: Low ratings, high expectations for GOP in 2014

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/12/13/usa-today-pew-poll-shows-low-ratings-high-expectations-for-gop-in-2014/4001317/

[NorthCarolina]

19. Even the three Dems are all Conservatives. Pretty one sided coverage I'd say. nt

[rufus dog]

21. It always works out to be 3 to 1 repub.

Fox will gleefully explain they are closer to 2 to 1 to offer fair and balanced proof. That ignores it should be 1 to 1 and that their host is openly partisan so it ends up being 3 to 1.

When called on this the Networks will explain they are offering the power out of party a chance to promote their views, of course when Republicans are in control they change the story to the party in power is creating the policy so they are newsworthy.

[Marr]

29. That is exactly what they say, yep.

I've watched the same *person* make those two opposing statements within a couple of years, and not even bat an eyelash.

[rufus dog]

37. Would that happen to be Stretch (Gregory)

Or was it Shiefer? I have seen both make variations of the statements.

[Bigmack]

22. The Sunday shows are not....

... intended to explore topics.

They are meant as an adjunct to Fox News(?) and the RW noise machine.

[Jack Rabbit]

23. Even the Democrats are suspect

Was Manchin there to talk about energy policy? He's from West Virginia and says what the coal mine owners tell him to say.

Was Schumer there to talk about the Middle East? He's one of those sponsoring legislation aimed at undermining President Obama's peace initiatives. Or was he talking about why we should help Wall Street bankers steal our savings?

Durbin is the majority whip and will say whatever the White House wants him to say, whether it's about foreign policy (where I approve of the President's peace initiative) or health care (on which the President gets a good grade) or about domestic spying or the Trans-Pacific Partnership, where the President doesn't receive such high marks (at least not from me).

[Crowman1979]

24. Then there are all those ads for Archer-Daniels Midland, Lockheed Martin, and Monsanto.

Like any consumer is going to use those products. Give me a break! It's more like a f*** you to the taxpayer. They may as well just flip us off and moon everybody on there ads. Because it has the same effect.

[Marr]

30. I'm almost surprised they actually run those ads.

It's a bit overt, isn't it? It's pretty much a clear statement to the effect of, "we've purchased this show". Considering the fact that, as you mentioned, they don't sell consumer products and don't advertise direct to the consumer anywhere else on television, it's almost ludicrously transparent.

[spanone]

25. k&r...

[muriel_volestrangler]

26. Stupid question: Who is Mike Rogers?

He never seems to come up on DU. How come he is on Sunday TV more than anyone else?

[Scurrilous]

30. Chairman of House Intelligence Committee.

Seems to be the go-to-guy for all things Snowden.

[Greybnk48]

48. I didn't know him either n/t

[Cha]

27. About time somebody made a chart to actually expose this mediawhore crap

in red and blue. And, look at the blues.. small kind blue.

I use to read Benen everyday when he was at the POlitical Animal blog.. he was always bringing up McCain's overkill on Sunday. "If it's Sunday it must be John McCain on gasbag shows." Or something like that.

This should be plastered all over the net! In fact I'm going to put it on my FB page.

Thanks Scurrilous!

[Scurrilous]

33. You're welcome Cha!

[Cha]

34. It's on my FB now. :)

[krispos42]

35. "liberal media"

[Eleanors38]

36. National nightly news is about as bad. 2 weeks ago

ABC, CBS, NBC, & PBS all had the same big news:




anti-bacterial soap.

[Tx4obama]

38. K&R n/t

[ZX86]

39. Sunday Morning Hack Techniques and Routines

1. Repeat Republican talking points as truth ad nauseum (i.e. Obamacare, Benghazi, etc.).
2. Take a push poll regarding Republican talking point.
3. Discuss President's bad poll numbers based on news media's poor reporting and Republican lies.

1. Take a poll asking a broad and vague question like "Is the country headed in the right direction?". Not a specific question about a certain policy mind you, just any question guaranteed to generate a negative response.
2. Ask Democratic guest why they going against the grain when America is rejecting liberalism and Democratic/Presidential policies as if that's what poll respondents were saying when in fact they may having been indicating policies are not liberal enough. (This was done over and over again with Obamacare. Ask people if they are happy with Obamacare then count people who want a public option or single payer with the knuckle dragging mouth breathers who want no reform at at all.)

1. Hold Democrats responsible for Republican obstructionism. (If Republican version of compromise is Democrat complete surrender then Democrats should surrender completely or be accused of not comprising).

1. Have no standard what so ever regarding accuracy of pundit policy positions. You can have a track record of outstandingly bad policy predictions such as the Iraq War and never ever be called on it.

1. False equivalency. No matter how inappropriate compare minor bureaucratic mishaps to major f*ck ups that cost thousands of lives by continually trying to inject phrases like "mission accomplished" and "Katrina moment" into events that have nothing more in common than they happened on planet Earth. (Why not just refer to Ed Wood's "Plan 9 from Outer Space" as his "Citizen Kane" moment?)

[arthritisR_US]

40. I gave up on the Sunday shows a few years back

for that very reason. I got fed up with the stacked representation.

[oberliner]

41. Your talents are needed in the I/P forum

Why not start posting there again?

[Enthusiast]

43. K&R.

I refuse to watch these programs. They are nothing but pure propaganda. And any "Democrat" that appears on these programs is hardly worthy of our support. There might be the rare exception.

[WCGreen]

44. Could be the reason their ratings keep falling....

[KittyWampus]

46. Thanks dear Scrurrilous, I suspected as much. Sad to see reality fits perception.

[Scurrilous]

47. ...

[B Calm]

50. Pretty lopsided!