I need to trash nearly 90% of GD

[Aerows]

What on EARTH is going on around here?

[snooper2]

1. It's not January 6th yet?

LOL

[Aerows]

10. I won't be among that number

I hope it gets here soon.

[Feral Child]

28. LOL n/t

[MrMickeysMom]

72. I don't get it

What's Jan 6th all about here?

[Aerows]

76. That's when the new ability to post rules go into effect

If you have had more than 5 hides, you can't post until your earliest one in the past 90 days falls off.

[NightWatcher]

2. I miss Meta

I'm in agreement with you, I just miss having a place to gather to say WTF

We do have a tendency these days to beat the bloody hell out of a topic

[Aerows]

3. It has gotten ridiculous n/t

[Wounded Bear]

6. No matter how much interest I may have in a topic...

I can't wrap my mind around opening and reading a 200 reply thread. It's kind of my mental equivalient of a trash button.

[Aerows]

8. You sir, win

And are correct.

[Warpy]

52. I blame Twitter

and people who are hooked on it starting new threads instead of commenting on a perfectly good up and running thread.

But yes, its gotten insane. When you look at a whole page of "Latest Threads" and only see one or two worth opening, you know something has got to happen to restrain the worst of the worst.

[Aerows]

67. "Hooked on Twitter"

Is that like being "Hooked on Phonics" but you can't spell and have to have a song in your head to form a coherent sentence?

[Warpy]

87. From some of the posts I've seen here

that sounds about right.

Hey! That would have fit on Twitter!

[Aerows]

112. Oh Lord

Now I fit on twitter.

I think I need an aspirin, and I'm allergic to them.

[Hekate]

90. Excellent observation, that! nt

[Skittles]

4. YOU WANT I SHOULD KICK YOUR TRASHING ASS, AEROWS?

LEMME AT YOU!!!

[Aerows]

7. Alert

No wait, it's just Skittles on a double espresso. No, it's fine. Just a little too much caffeine, really.

[Skittles]

18. lol

I am sucking down a HUGE cup right now

[Aerows]

25. LMAO n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

137. Carefully stepping over the used grounds

You might want to cut that consumption down.

[NuclearDem]

17. YOU'LL GET HER BACK READING GD FLAME WARS IN NO TIME

YES, INDEED.

[Aerows]

80. Back off

with your corn flake chicken, Olive Garden, and breast-feeding Pitbulls on Drones. I will blame you for that chicken.

[NuclearDem]

84. Not my authoritarian chicken!

[Aerows]

114. I don't see what all the flap is about

over the authoritarian chicken. I guess I ruffle feathers naturally

[awoke_in_2003]

85. You forgot circumcision. nt

[Hekate]

92. Now you've done it! nt

[Aerows]

113. Is this the smoking section?

I need to change a diaper.

[snooper2]

22. If people knew that you have never actually won a fight

It might change that meme you have a little

[Skittles]

73. I WILL KICK YOUR TAUNTING ASS TOO SNOOPER2

YES INDEED

[Aerows]

78. I'm not responsible for the chocolate coated espresso beans.

I just want everyone to know that right now.

[Skittles]

93. DAMN!

I'm eating a bunch of Hershey Xmas bell-shaped mint chocolate

[Aerows]

111. I'm not spying on you

I swear.

[Grateful for Hope]

42. Dang, you made me laugh "TRASHING ASS"

[Liberal Veteran]

5. Whatever do you mean? GD is the gold standard for intelligent and polite discourse.

[Aerows]

15. LOL n/t

[awoke_in_2003]

91. F you...

just kidding

[Cha]

96. lol

[Purveyor]

9. If there was a "General News Dicussion" forum, I would trash GD in a heartbeat. eom

[Aerows]

12. It's General Drama

Lately.

[Feral Child]

29. Guffaw!

Extremely funny!

[madinmaryland]

44. I thought it was General Douchebaggery!! Nt

[In_The_Wind]

64. It's really Gosh Darn-it.

[In_The_Wind]

65. And ... I thought it was Gosh Darn-it!

[Aerows]

79. That too. n/t

[neverforget]

75. I thought it was Gender Discussion?

[Warren Stupidity]

20. LBN: a forum mercilessly administered and restricted to discussing general news.

GD is not LBN.

[Aerows]

27. Mercilessly

at least you can wander into there for actual news. You don't get beaten up by your friends in there.

[Purveyor]

35. This is why I'm going to propose a 'general news' discussion forum so one can go to the forum

and read news that is not younger than 12 hours and doesn't necessarily fit the "of national interest" criteria.

[Aerows]

60. Restrict it to two or more drinks, too

I mean less.

And drugs. Lots of drugs mean less participation

[Purveyor]

95. "Lots of drugs mean less participation..."

Reason I'm not posting quite as much as usual.

Good crop this grow!

[Purveyor]

36. What happened, you get a thread locked in LBN? eom

[Warren Stupidity]

70. Uh, sure, everyone who posts op's there gets at least one locked, but not the point.

The point being it is a forum restricted to news.

[Purveyor]

94. Which is why I would love a 'General News' forum that would catch all news that didn't qualify

as LBN.

[Warren Stupidity]

103. Essentially all news qualifies.

Almost all the locks are for duplicates.

Seems to me what you want is GD, just without the threads that you personally don't want.

[Purveyor]

105. No, all news does not qualify for LBN and of course you know that. eom

[Aerows]

115. News without the petty hate threads

I'd settle for that. I love good discussions and free-for-alls on current affairs. What we have had lately is anything by current affairs and more like age-old-hatreds.

[Vashta Nerada]

54. That's why I come to this forum.

To see general news and political discussion, not inflammatory threads and the same thing being posted over and over again with different variations.

[Purveyor]

97. Many do and many "used to" but many have just went to other news related sites to avoid

the 'spit-ball games'.

[hootinholler]

11. Which GD are you trashing?

Gender Discussion or Gun Discussion?

[Aerows]

13. Great Drama

That one

Love you hootinholler, hope you had a Merry Christmas and that you have a Happy New Year - We already have Mardi Gras crap out, here .

[hootinholler]

23. Ah I like the Drama substitution

Love right back at ya Cher!

As Merry as it could have been this year I think. I figured out one of the reasons I get in a funk this time of year, so hopefully next year it won't be as bad.

I'm sure you do have the Mardi Gras stuffs out already. Won't be long until it's bead chucking time.

[Aerows]

26. Cher, we already have a King Cake

It's so early this year, but you have to roll with it.

Glad to hear you are working with your issues. I am too, and I think 2014 is going to be much better than 2013!

[hootinholler]

37. Oooooohhh, Cream Cheese please!

I wish I had a bakery around here that didn't give me *that look* when I ask if they do King Cake.

Although the apple ones aren't so bad.

[Aerows]

43. OH MY Goodness

Cream Cheese King Cake. I can't even ... yum.

[grahamhgreen]

165. Grateful Dead, come on man (~);-}

[hootinholler]

170. Obviously not!

No one would trash the Dead!

[NYC_SKP]

14. Recommended. (nt)

I have a yet unanswered question in ATA about providing a feature with which to click boxes for threads to hide, instead of the current mode which requires one-at-a-time clicking, confirm hide, hit return, page refresh.

Why can't we do like most email servers do and allow selection of multiple threads?

Happy New Year, Aerows

[Aerows]

16. Happy New Year, SKP !

May it be full, rich and beautiful.

[Logical]

19. The jury system is a joke! Admins were better! nt

[Aerows]

33. I just wish

General Discussion got back to general discussion, not highly specific arguments between certain groups that would be better confined to those groups and their detractors.

[Logical]

34. I agree, and admins could move them. nt

[hootinholler]

38. But they've banned everyone who would disagree with them

So that's not gonna work.

[Aerows]

47. This thread is about to get shut down

because it is "whining about DU" instead of discussing a problem. I think I am discussing a problem. Some of the folks in this thread have been DU Admins.

[Aerows]

50. And I'll add, hosts are part of the problem

Thanks for bringing that up, hootinholler.

[LittleBlue]

166. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

At Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:37 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

And I'll add, hosts are part of the problem
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4251747

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Constant whining about DU.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:41 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: That's a Host speaking to a Host, and it's true.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Jeez, alerter, come on. This isn't worth a hide.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Frivolous alerts seem to also fit that bill.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: What??? This is a post. Not an OP. since when can you not whine about DU in post?? Also, transparency and all. This is a very bogus, childish alert.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Watch your back, Aerows

[Sissyk]

168. I was just coming to post that.

Somebody can't alert for 24 hours.

[xulamaude]

21. I've taken to calling GD

General Population.

[Aerows]

31. General

Defecation.

[Coyotl]

48. Yet another new species of troll.

I'll be writing up this new species as soon as I figure out how to translate "scatological besmearmentor " to Latin

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3301126&mesg_id=3301948

[Aerows]

117. Oh, and you misspelled that. :)

Don't let me deter you.

[libodem]

24. I wish certain subjects

Were confined to the groups, unless it is currently big news. Sometimes I trash them and sometimes I throw in my 2 cents. Then trash 'em.

[Aerows]

32. I'm with you there

Hashing out problems that apparently are endemic needs to be confined to groups, and let's get back to hashing out general problems in general discussion.

[libodem]

39. Good idea

I read a lot in GD. Certain subjects bring up bad associations for me. I don't like it in my face just because some people can't get enoughof it. Keep it in the group. Why drag it up here?

[Aerows]

118. Exactly

I like Current Events. It is fine to discuss current events, but don't drag Jesus, Mary and Cro-Magnon man into it. That isn't ... current.

[SoCalDem]

30. GD's "evolution" has accomplished a lot, actually

For many of us here from the beginning (or nearly the beginning), the devolution has freed up time for us, as we find other things to do.

[randome]

58. Like post pics of dancing Santa pickles???

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[SoCalDem]

61. Hey it's my holiday sig pic

Do not diss the pickle

[Cali_Democrat]

66. Like the pickle!

[Aerows]

120. You and I don't agree very often

but ... see ... this is what I'm talking about. Merry Christmas and may you have a Happy New Year, by the way, Randome.

[randome]

171. And to you, Aerows!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

[Capt. Obvious]

40. But if you do

you may miss out on a Very Special Episode of GD.

[randome]

41. It's a madhouse! A madhouse!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

[NoOneMan]

49. What's that picture from

That's the god damned sexiest elephant I've ever seen

[randome]

51. TMI!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

[Aerows]

59. My word! Entirely TMI

n/t

[Aerows]

68. Didn't say that

at all. It's a great place, and we can spell.

[L0oniX]

98. Sorry. When I see the word trash I jump to conclusions.

[Aerows]

101. What conclusions?

You are a pretty good DUer in my mind.

[hootinholler]

110. You got something against mobile homes?

Or people who live in them?

[darkangel218]

145. He deleted the post.

Wow, that was nasty.

[hootinholler]

152. Not as nasty as some white trash threads have been

Having been raised on the edges of Appalachia I hate that sort of shit.

[darkangel218]

154. Yah, so do i.

What's scary is that this type of mentality is alive and kicking, even in some liberal circles. I had friends who were making this type of comments until I told them off.
All this misconception about people living in rural areas or mobile home communities is sickening and it makes the world an ugly place.

[hootinholler]

161. The RW is pretty successful in pitting the rural poor against the urban poor

I find that they can accomplish that sickening.

[darkangel218]

128. Not everyone living in a "trailer park" is a moron.

Just saying.

Jokes like this are very insensitive, considering some DUrs do live in mobile homes

[Coyotl]

46. Are you familiar with the taxonomy of trolls? = Filling a Neologism Vacuum

Admittedly, the taxonomy still has gaping gaps and huge holes.

Towards a Taxonomy of Political Trolls OR Filling a Neologism Vacuum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1835214

" ..... Homoferus inundatus, the inundation troll, a recently described species that runs in packs and swamps fora with many posts, typically on an undesirable and negative topic that disrupts normal, productive discourse. ...."

[Vashta Nerada]

53. People are posting threads that are "innocent" but know they're going to rile up a bunch of people.

I've trashed over 40 threads since last week.

[Aerows]

55. Exactly

You and I don't see eye to eye on every post, and have debates, but at least they are debates, not purely baiting.

[Vashta Nerada]

56. Yep.

Then they blame others when they get posts hidden.

It's really been a week.

[Aerows]

63. It has, my friend

Hope you had a good holiday.

[Vashta Nerada]

74. It was okay.

I hope your holiday was good as well.

[ananda]

57. I feel that I'm missing a lot of good links or threads because...

... all the kerfuffle threads push them down the page and I don't see them.

[Aerows]

62. Exactly.

Too much infighting over things that could be best kept to groups.

[zappaman]

69. Kick and rec!

Perhaps we need a new forum?

[Aerows]

71. General Discussion

Where we discuss politics, current events and topics of interest to the Democratic Party.

Not "I have a grudge against somebody that pissed me off". Or "I'm really going to piss people off by posting this and commenting about it!"

[Autumn]

77. My guess would be shit stirring, shout outs and just plain

old general douchebaggery. I have been ignoring most of DU a lot for the last week. The Lounge is nice, I've just been hiding in there, reading a lot because I don't know who's in charge there to beg sanctuary from.

[Aerows]

81. There has been enough shit-stirring in GD

to keep a manure factory busy.

My post was meant to tell people to quit stirring in it, because the flies and the smell are driving people off.

Go into your groups if you want to fight amongst yourselves and keep it away from people wanting to read about current affairs.

[Autumn]

86. I thought that's what the groups were for.

I've gotten to the point to where when I am called to jury a post in those I don't even read for context I just leave because I don't want to wade into the back and forth. It's all bullshit.

[Aerows]

122. It's what groups were supposed to be for

to keep petty arguments out of current affairs discussion.

[RC]

162. The problem is when they REC'd the group's latest flame thread and it shows up in on the Home Page.

The do that on purpose. No other group, except the group in question does that, The other groups DO keep mostly to themselves.
And when they do show up on the Home page, the threads are not usually derisive.

[Major Hogwash]

127. That's not true.

Weren't you a former moderator at the DU 2 forum?

Anybody can send an alert on any post made by anyone in any group or any forum anywhere at any time for any reason.

[Autumn]

131. No, I was never a moderator on DU2. Yes you are correct

about the alerts. I was talking about the jury system and why I have voted to leave the posts alerted on on the last few juries I have served on.

[Major Hogwash]

151. I've been here for over 10 years and I never moderated at DU either.

I first came to the DU forum in 2003.
I wanted to talk about getting John Kerry elected President.
It was important to me to reach out to other people to get Bush out of the White House.

But, Skinner was letting people here get ridiculed for supporting Kerry by letting other people call them Kerryokies, and arguing with them nonstop, even after he became the Democratic Presidential nominee on March 13, 2004.
Wasn't funny to me, so I stopped posting at the DU forum for a long time and decided to make my remarks on another forum.

I never made a single post in the LGBT group at DU because I am not gay.
It didn't matter to me what they were saying in that group or even if they were talking about me.
I respect gays.
And so I left them alone to say whatever they wanted to say to each other in that group.
I never even made fun of Rick Santorum's name when he ran for President last year because I thought it was offensive to gays.

Then in 2008, when I wanted to talk to people about getting Obama elected President, the same thing happened to people who supported Obama.
We were ridiculed and called Obamabots and argued with nonstop, even after he became the Democratic Presidential nominee.

Posting at the DU forum in 2012 was just a repeat of the 2008 election experience, except for one big difference -- the President was a Democrat that we were trying to get re-elected.

The jury system is flawed because Skinner didn't require that the jurors even get involved in the discussions here.
So, people who have made no posts whatsoever can serve on juries.
Gawd only knows what they think.

[Autumn]

155. I know what you mean. The same thing happened to those of us who supported

Hillary. But all this will pass, it seems to go in cycles but while it's going on it sure does take a toll.

[Vattel]

82. It's easy to avoid threads that aren't interesting.

I have learned a lot from recent threads about rape and rape culture even though there have been a lot of them. And I wish there were more threads about our shameful criminal justice system.

[femmocrat]

100. How does one block threads by keywords?

I can't find that feature. Thanks.

[Kaleva]

104. Select "My account" in the upper right of your screen

Select "Trash Can" which is between "Jury Blacklist" and "Star membership". There you be able to see the Auto-trash by Keyword feature.

[femmocrat]

106. Thank you!

It was interesting to see all the words I had auto-trashed in the past! LOL

[Jester Messiah]

109. Crap, where were you a week ago??

I sorely needed this feature. This is invaluable information! I have this condition where I can't let an argument rest. (I think it's called ISS - Internet Sucker Syndrome.)

[NoOneMan]

124. That's cool

I sometimes worry what this place looks like to newcomers. Keyword block definitely lets everyone create their own bubble

[sharp_stick]

83. I restarted my old ignore list

with pretty much the exact same people who used to be on it for Meta. The amount of bullshit has been reduced dramatically.

I always tried to believe it was wrong to use the ignore list but there are some people who's opinions just aren't worth the grief.

[darkangel218]

129. Am i on it?

[sharp_stick]

147. Oh No

You're way to much fun to ignore.

[darkangel218]

148. And im pretty dorkly too.

Cheers!!

[Hekate]

88. I don't know, Aerows, but for quite awhile I just open the screen and shut it off again

It's discouraging as hell -- and brings up my old Bush-era question: Who does it serve? In this case, Who does it serve to turn so many people off a discussion board?

[Aerows]

99. Discouraging is a word for it

We need to clean house.

[kdmorris]

89. No clue... most of it I trashed!

It's getting really weird...again.

[Aerows]

102. Weird is a way of describing it

and I hope my thread doesn't contribute to the "weirdness" just hope it fosters some better manners than we have seen lately.

[shenmue]

107. They're letting in way too many trolls

Either that, or the board needs an exorcism.

[maced666]

108. Really?

Even on a bad day 90% seems really high!

[Whisp]

119. It's like the Hatfields and the Hatfields.

[Drahthaardogs]

121. yessir

I hear you

[Aerows]

123. It's unreal

and someone needed to speak up about it. So I did.

[Aerows]

136. Did you and your guys have a good Christmas?

I hope they barked to the heavens for having a Dog-Father like you!

[Drahthaardogs]

164. Yes, it has a been a good year.

We have had a pretty mild fall so the dogs enjoy it when they are outside during the day. I have gotten them out on pheasants a few times this year. Funny, I am slowing as I get closer to 50 down but I guess they are some too. My oldest dog at 14 still gets excited for a short hunt. I let him have a hedgerow or two.

This getting old stuff is pure nonsense. I want those damned mouse-pills ASAP!

[quinnox]

125. I just got a thread that was clearly humorous hidden, I think something fishy is going on

I have a feeling someone is alert stalking on me, and I complained to one of the admins about this. They have access to all alerts and also jury members decisions, so I think I will be able to find out what is going on, hopefully.

It seems like a tiny sub-group on DU is attempting a takeover of some sort. They are ruining DU, god help DU if they are successful!

[darkangel218]

132. Good luck.

The bosses won't tell you who is alert stalking. Been there, done that.

[quinnox]

133. Maybe, but I have a really good relationship with one of the admins

He knows I have been here a long time, and that I try and make DU fun for people.

So even if he doesn't tell me who it is, maybe, just maybe, there might be some consequences for the person or group if they are doing what I suspect they are doing.

[polly7]

134. LOL!

I know .... I laughed and commented on it then went to run my mom out some homemade soup and bread, when I got back - poof!, it was gone!

Cripes, I didn't think my sense of humour was that warped!

Sorry, don't mean to laugh, but how ridiculous was that!

[quinnox]

135. It was totally absurd

I really hope admins look into it. I posted a thread all about it.

I rarely get any posts hidden. DU is not supposed to be a church-like atmosphere, where those who take the most offense the quickest, to anything their humorless minds conjure up as an insult, (which is most everything).

DU would turn into a ghost town if these humorless types take over.

[darkangel218]

140. "DU would turn into a ghost town if these humorless types take over".

Yah, tell me about it.

[seaglass]

173. It's always humorous when you attack a group of DUers - which you did. I didn't alert nor was I on

the jury but if I was I would have voted to hide. It is just so funny how the haters don't even recognize their own attacks.

Maybe Skinner will explain it to you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024252782
You wrote this:

"Note to the perpetually outraged brigade, this thread does contain elements of humor, beware.

[Waiting For Everyman]

169. Question: do you have your jury blacklist filled out?

If you don't, that could be one reason that may have made it easier to get your post hidden. Fill it out and put the usual suspects on it, or whoever you think would definitely vote against you on juries, and that might help prevent some hides.

In choosing, give priority to people who are here more and have the highest likelihood of serving on a jury (it's given at the bottom of a person's profile). Example: 100% chance of serving, and thousands of posts in 90 days, that person is a more likely juror. Next, out of those people, give priority to those who often don't post in threads that you post in, because juries are drawn from people who have not posted in the thread.

I highly recommend doing that. And update it once in a while. Just a thought, but a lot of people don't fill that out, or don't know about it. It does make a big difference.

One of the big pluses of a star membership -- that gives you an even bigger jury blacklist to use.

As to the subgroup itself:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024243969#post304

[liberalmuse]

126. I trashed 2 other forums, however...

it seems the nonsense has moved to GD, and I don't really want to trash all of GD.

[darkangel218]

130. SO, Aerows!

Happy new year!!

[Aerows]

138. I hear you have a ranch

can I move there ?

Thank you cher, Happy New Year to you as well.

[darkangel218]

139. Its a house on an ranch

Yup, come on over!

[Aerows]

141. Can I ride a horse, and bring my cat that loves to eat mice?

I'll help around the ranch, too

[darkangel218]

142. My ranch is horseless at the moment. You can bring all the animals you want :)

[Aerows]

143. Goats?

Please say you at least have goats. Milk, fur and equatorial eyes

[darkangel218]

144. Its empty :)

I just moved here last month

[nadinbrzezinski]

146. I have not been reading that much

But you knew it.

I call it self fulfilling.

After the year starts will restart my blog in a serious manner though.

Oh and we had a descent Christmas, and since I have not found daffy anywhere, I guess will have to make something else tomorrow.

[Iggo]

149. Meta!

[Rex]

150. It is the Holiday Season, people get touchy around this time of year.

I even did away with my ignore list. NOT the blacklist mind you. Some are going on vacation for a bit it seems. New Year Hiatus blues?

Have a great New Year!

[darkangel218]

160. Yup, im one of the few who will be on "vacation".

[Aerows]

172. Not for too long, though

It sucks though, I agree

[Rex]

174. Well that sucks!

Actually a few people going on forced vacation are people I will miss, you included.

[darkangel218]

175. Thanks Rex! x

Its okays, I will be back

[Rex]

176. Yes you will and I see you have 5

so when one of them drops off you will be back soon.

I've notice some people have 8 or 9 hides so they will NOT be back anytime soon.

[MannyGoldstein]

153. Um... do I need to apologize for something?

I'm never sure these days.

[nadinbrzezinski]

156. Skittles will be over here soon

[darkangel218]

157. Is there any Corona in your fridge?

[MannyGoldstein]

158. Out of beer.

Sorry for that.

[darkangel218]

159. Dammit, see?

Now you need to profusely apologize.

I have a feeling Skittles will still kick your behind tho


Cheers!!!

[laundry_queen]

163. Meh

This kind of thing happens a lot actually. Right now it's something I care about so I don't feel the need to trash most of the threads but sometimes, yes I feel like trashing a good portion of GD. It will always vary per poster with what they want to see and what they don't. GD has always had posters flood the board with the argument du jour...nothing really new there. It just depends if the argument du jour interests you or not.

[Cleita]

167. Good guys leaving, even long time, old time contributors.

Makes me sad too.