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Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 01:52 AM Jan 2014

Morrissey Compares Carnivores To Pedophiles



Ringing in the new year in style and following-up the success of his long-awaited autobiography, former frontman of Manchester legends The Smiths Morrissey has said he sees no difference between meat-eaters and pedophiles during a recent Q&A on Morrissey fan site, True To You.

“I see no difference between eating animals and paedophilia. They are both rape, violence, murder,” declared the singer when asked “What is it that prompted you to stop eating meat?” The Meat Is Murder-singer continued, saying, “If I’m introduced to anyone who eats beings, I walk away.”

“Imagine, for example, if you were in a nightclub and someone said to you “Hello, I enjoy bloodshed, throat-slitting and the destruction of life,” well, I doubt if you’d want to exchange phone numbers,” he concluded, continuing his long-standing and vocal criticism of those dastardly flesh-eaters.

When asked about what new laws he would like to see come into action in order to better the plight of animals, Morrissey referenced The Queen, Jamie Oliver, and UK singer Cilla Black, saying:

“I would like the Queen of England to be asked why she wears an electrocuted bear-cub on her head. I would like to ask all so-called celebrity chefs why they believe that animals should have no right to live.

“If Jamie ‘Orrible is so certain that flesh-food is tasty then why doesn’t he stick one of his children in a microwave? It would taste the same as cooked lamb.

http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/morrissey-compares-carnivores-to-pedophiles/


Stay classy, Moz!
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Morrissey Compares Carnivores To Pedophiles (Original Post) Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #1
LOL. There's something about that sort of fanaticism... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #47
He is alarmingly bitter. MinneapolisMatt Jan 2014 #3
That's why I struggled to get through his autobiography... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #4
I still need to get that, Codeine Jan 2014 #35
Yr wise to have some trepidation... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #41
That's the kind of nonsense that drove Marr from The Smiths 1000words Jan 2014 #5
It must be true because a self absorbed Morrissey said it was. Everything he says should be Lint Head Jan 2014 #6
More evidence of something that was scientifically proven some time ago. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #7
I'm a Moz fan but that is just too damn funny! nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #46
"or Falklanders" MisterP Jan 2014 #8
Get that man a nice juicy steak, or some veal. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #9
What a fucking MORON, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #10
That is not what he is saying. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #21
He's still comparing meat eaters to pedophiles, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #22
I'm a lifelong meat-eater too but this doesn't make make me feel defensive at all. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #48
Brilliant artist...big douchebag!!! U4ikLefty Jan 2014 #11
Not at all tkmorris Jan 2014 #27
100% correct on both counts. Codeine Jan 2014 #36
Same here. The man is truly one of a kind, for better or worse. n/t nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #49
Saw him at Hollywood High last year...amazing! U4ikLefty Jan 2014 #52
(facepalm) flvegan Jan 2014 #12
This guy is a jackass. NaturalHigh Jan 2014 #13
What a moron. He's not helping the cause. Is he doing that intentionally, or is he really that much gtar100 Jan 2014 #14
A lack of an internal filter is often a hallmark of great artists. Codeine Jan 2014 #38
typical of the picky eater mentality FatBuddy Jan 2014 #15
Obviously he needed the publicity intaglio Jan 2014 #16
If his ancestors didn't become omnivores, he'd be living in a tree throwing shit at his neighbors Major Nikon Jan 2014 #17
What, you mean Morrissey's whining about something? LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #18
Pellagra is a terrible thing. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #19
His language is very similar to the words of anti choice activists, hyperbolic and unhinged. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #20
His solo shows are actually astonishingly good. Codeine Jan 2014 #34
I agree. I saw him at the Sydney Opera house in Dec 2012... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #42
I'm glad to hear he is not the smug piece of product I saw, I had really loved the Smiths and Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #53
What a fool. A whiney fool. HappyMe Jan 2014 #23
Stop Me Oh Oh Oh Stop Me IcyPeas Jan 2014 #24
I disagree with him, but I respect his right to be provocative. reformist2 Jan 2014 #25
Did he cry while doing it? TlalocW Jan 2014 #26
Who? Skidmore Jan 2014 #28
He was the lead singer of The Smiths... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #29
I've never heard of The Smiths either. Skidmore Jan 2014 #30
You should listen to them. They were great, especially Johnny Marr, their guitarist n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #31
That's sad. Codeine Jan 2014 #32
I know.... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #33
I was so busy during the 80s, I didn't track on much music. Skidmore Jan 2014 #39
Fair enough. Codeine Jan 2014 #40
Eating meat is the... one_voice Jan 2014 #37
I love the guy, but sometimes he makes me so, so embarrassed to be a fan... nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #43
I know the feeling....here's an ode to Morrissey called 'Lighten Up Morrissey' Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #55
Certainly more subtle than the Meatmen's "Morrissey Must Die"... nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #57
Vegan Militantcy. (P)eople (E)nding (T)rustworthy (A)dvocacy. nt Earth_First Jan 2014 #44
Enjoying a steak makes you Jerry Sandusky. PeteSelman Jan 2014 #45
I have been a life-long Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #50
Mr. Morrisey, meet Mr. Nugent Mopar151 Jan 2014 #51
Anyone who drags a touring music show around the globe to make profit has no right lecturing Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #54
Longship compares Morrissey to idiot. nt longship Jan 2014 #56
I must not be very hip because he sounds like a boring jerk Redford Jan 2014 #58

Response to Violet_Crumble (Original post)

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
2. LOL. There's something about that sort of fanaticism...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:04 AM
Jan 2014

I love how he says he'd walk away from talking to someone who eats meat, but he's got no problem taking money from all those carnivores who turn up to his shows and yawn while he harangues them during 'Meat Is Murder'.

I imagine a DU Moz would be all over any porn threads haranguing the anti-porn types that they're ignoring and dismissing him and his much more important issue, and there'd be a massive flamewar that would cease immediately once DU Moz discovered they all ate meat and put them all on ignore...

btw, did you watch the clip with Henry Rollins having his say about him? While Rollins taste in music is crap, it was pretty funny...

Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #2)

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
4. That's why I struggled to get through his autobiography...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:07 AM
Jan 2014

I tried to imagine it as long, long lyrics to a Smiths song (I did and still do love The Smiths), but it didn't work...

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
35. I still need to get that,
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jan 2014

but everyone says it's basically an endless, bitter screed against nearly everyone with essentially no insight into what actually made The Smiths so goddamned perfect.

Trepidation -- I haz it.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
41. Yr wise to have some trepidation...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:02 PM
Jan 2014

From what I read in it, Morrissey thinks that without Morrissey, The Smiths would have been just another mediocre band. And his writing style is just a bit pretentious and flowery for me...

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
6. It must be true because a self absorbed Morrissey said it was. Everything he says should be
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:11 AM
Jan 2014

absorbed by all other lesser beings.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. Get that man a nice juicy steak, or some veal.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:16 AM
Jan 2014


That's a pretty hyperbolic comparison he's got there, but I don't begrudge his passion in expressing it.
 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
10. What a fucking MORON,
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:18 AM
Jan 2014

I've been a meat eater all my life, in fact, I hunt ALL my meat,(no store bought, steroid filled meat for me,) and I've been a Federal Marshal for my entire career and not once can I think of ever looking at a child in any sexual way.
Maybe he's projecting his own preferences.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
21. That is not what he is saying.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 01:59 PM
Jan 2014

He saying eating meat is as morally wrong as having sex with a little kid. I don't agree with him, but that is my interpretation of his opinion.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
48. I'm a lifelong meat-eater too but this doesn't make make me feel defensive at all.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jan 2014

I just find it laughable.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
36. 100% correct on both counts.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jan 2014

And yet I still love the cranky old bastard. Always will, I suppose.

U4ikLefty

(4,012 posts)
52. Saw him at Hollywood High last year...amazing!
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jan 2014

The man is awesome live, and this comes from a metalhead.

flvegan

(64,408 posts)
12. (facepalm)
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:25 AM
Jan 2014

Lord above, just fucking shut up.

BTW, thanks for making it all more difficult for those of us actually doing shit.

Moron. Shame, had my respect. Lost it.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
13. This guy is a jackass.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:35 AM
Jan 2014

I can imagine someone whose child has been the victim of a pedophile slapping the shit out of him.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
14. What a moron. He's not helping the cause. Is he doing that intentionally, or is he really that much
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:03 AM
Jan 2014

of an idiot. Or is he taking one from the republican playbook in trying to say over-the-top bullshit just to get noticed. Sometimes I think it would be better to turn away from all forms of media because of how so much of it is idiotic sensationalism. But that'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater so I'll settle with giving him a salute with my middle finger and putting him on my shit list.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. A lack of an internal filter is often a hallmark of great artists.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jan 2014

The same tendency that lets them spill very sensitive emotions all over the stage and utterly open themselves lyrically (and I think everyone familiar with his music would agree he's the epitome of this) can also result in really remarkable stupid shit slipping out of their mouths -- the sort of shit you or I would never allow to cross the Brain-Mouth Barrier.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
16. Obviously he needed the publicity
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:47 AM
Jan 2014

and what a way to alienate those who might want to become vegetarian; after all who wants to be in a group with Mozza?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. If his ancestors didn't become omnivores, he'd be living in a tree throwing shit at his neighbors
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 06:07 AM
Jan 2014

Come to think of it, that's pretty much what he's doing now.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
18. What, you mean Morrissey's whining about something?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 06:20 AM
Jan 2014

What do you know. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't committed suicide by now, but I guess he figures that he wouldn't be able to look down on everyone else anymore. People need to leave pedophilia out of their little comparisons; it's much too serious an issue to be throwing around in order to make a point about your pet cause. I think his attitude is almost as offensive as Santorum's homosexuality = bestiality comments.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. His language is very similar to the words of anti choice activists, hyperbolic and unhinged.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 10:39 AM
Jan 2014

Also, I saw the Smiths once and he was the single most self indulgent performer I have ever seen, posing and preening and forgetting his own words. He seemed to resent being there, to hate the audience, to despise his band mates. He was present to collect a check. I stopped paying attention to the Smiths back then, Morrissey solo I'd not even bother to hear.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
34. His solo shows are actually astonishingly good.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:41 PM
Jan 2014

I've been to around a dozen Moz concerts and in every instance he gave heartfelt, passionate performances and genuinely seemed to adore his audience. I think what you saw may have been due to the often-extreme tensions within The Smiths. They thoroughly hated each other near the end.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
42. I agree. I saw him at the Sydney Opera house in Dec 2012...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jan 2014

It was an amazing show, and I even forgave him the haranguing he gave the audience about meat in the middle of 'Meat Is Murder'. But apart from that he didn't come across as the pretentious wanker I was expecting to see. He was chatty and did have a connection with the audience. And as about half the set was Smiths songs, I was in heaven. I would have sold my firstborn to the highest bidder in the 80's to have had a chance to see the Smiths live, so this was the next best thing...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. I'm glad to hear he is not the smug piece of product I saw, I had really loved the Smiths and
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jan 2014

that show really turned me against them. I was a fan.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
23. What a fool. A whiney fool.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:14 PM
Jan 2014

The whole thing sounds like he's unhinged. Stick a kid in the microwave ?! Pedophiles are horrible criminals that mess up the kid for life sometimes. Not the same as enjoying a cheeseburger.

I suppose he will be sending refunds to all the meat eaters that bought a cd and attended a concert.

IcyPeas

(21,882 posts)
24. Stop Me Oh Oh Oh Stop Me
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jan 2014

Stop me, oh, oh-o, stop me
Stop me if you think
That you've heard this one before

Stop me, oh, oh-o, stop me
Stop me if you think
That you've heard this one before

Nothing's changed
I still love you, oh, I still love you
Only slightly, only slightly less
Than I used to, my love


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TlalocW

(15,383 posts)
26. Did he cry while doing it?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:44 PM
Jan 2014

Was it because he was depressed over a particularly upsetting time in his life - breakfast?

TlalocW

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
29. He was the lead singer of The Smiths...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jan 2014

And went on to have a successful solo career. He's a great artist, but a pain in the arse of a person...

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
32. That's sad.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:36 PM
Jan 2014

They were one of the greatest and most profoundly influential bands of the 80s. They created an astonishing catalog of material in a very short period.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
39. I was so busy during the 80s, I didn't track on much music.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jan 2014

The first half of the decade I was trapped in Iran and the second half I was trying start life anew here from scratch for myself and my children. It was a frenetic decade for me.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
37. Eating meat is the...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jan 2014

equivalent to child rape?!?! WTF is that nonsense?

Putting kids in microwaves? Oh my....

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
43. I love the guy, but sometimes he makes me so, so embarrassed to be a fan...
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:10 PM
Jan 2014

Whether the subject is vegetarianism or immigration, he just can't seem to resist going to extremes.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
50. I have been a life-long
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jan 2014

meat-eater, and not once have I had the urge to do the nasty with a minor. Something must be wrong with me.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
51. Mr. Morrisey, meet Mr. Nugent
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jan 2014

Holders of extreme viewpoints, deluded by fame. Both were once credible "musicans" of a sort, whose delusions of grandeur and relevancy turned away bandmates first, then many of their fans.
I think we otta lock 'em in a room, let 'em whine it out.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
54. Anyone who drags a touring music show around the globe to make profit has no right lecturing
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jan 2014

anyone on the environmental impact of anything. His method of earning coupled with his wealthy lifestyle means that Morrissey will do more damage to the planet than a thousand meat eating poor folk who don't do the bus, truck and jet roadshow nor maintain multiple homes of excessive size strung about the planet, accessed by burning fossil fuel. Los Angeles, London, Rome, Switzerland and more from what I hear. Lots of houses and travel by whim, by charter 'my very own jet'.

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