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Eating meat is not murder, it's much worse than that, according to the celebrated miserablist and former Smiths singer Morrissey.
"I see no difference between eating animals and paedophilia," he said. "They are both rape, violence, murder. If I'm introduced to anyone who eats beings, I walk away."
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"Imagine, for example, if you were in a nightclub and someone said to you: 'Hello, I enjoy bloodshed, throat-slitting and the destruction of life,' well, I doubt if you'd want to exchange phone numbers," he said.
The insights were shared in a Q&A session on his fan website, True to You. Asked about his proudest achievement, he said it was persuading many people to stop eating meat. "If you believe in the abattoir then you would support Auschwitz. There's no difference."
But he wasn't done: "If Jamie 'Orrible is so certain that flesh-food is tasty then why doesn't he stick one of his children in a microwave?" he asked. And of Cilla Black preparing a leg of lamb recently on television: "Since a lamb is a baby, I wondered what kind of mind Cilla Black could possibly have that would convince her that eating a baby is OK?"
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jan/03/morrissey-eating-meat-paedophilia-smiths
Orrex
(63,213 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)I would like to get to the point of being a vegetarian for moral reasons, but this sort of thing just makes me facepalm.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Besides, the real talent in The Smiths was always Johnny Marr.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)I love him, but even though I think it's probably good to be vegetarian, this is pushing it a little too far. To say a little.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)postulater
(5,075 posts)Warpy
(111,267 posts)Vegetarianism isn't for everybody and vegetarians on a moral crusade suck just like any other zealot.
Most of my meals are plant based, I just feel better that way. I know meat eaters who tried to go vegetarian and ended up feeling sick all the time. One size does not fit all.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and he's got no right to take his place in the human race.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)What a twat.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)...and someone said to you: "Hello, I'm a Famous Alt Rock Star only about six people ever listened to and I haven't released a new album in five years but I want to remain relevant," well, I doubt if you'd want to exchange phone numbers.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)Response to Redfairen (Original post)
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bowens43
(16,064 posts)bobclark86
(1,415 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)by this man over half a lifetime ago, but he still sounds like a douche here.
spanone
(135,841 posts)fuck m
dhill926
(16,339 posts)and this is WAY over the top. Not helping your cause there, dude....
Codeine
(25,586 posts)mixed with the bitterness of an old man and the over-dramatic sensibilities of. . . well, Morrissey.
A bad combo.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)I eat regularly at a vegetarian restaurant whose staff knows I'm an omnivore who hunts deer, birds and small game, and who feels no need to piss at the altar of Ted Nugent.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)The truth isn't always easy to hear.
onenote
(42,704 posts)how exactly is eating meat like being a pedophile? I get how someone might claim that eating meat is just like being a cannibal (not that I would agree). But eating meat is like having sex with a child? What makes it more like having sex with a child than having sex with an adult?
Maybe you can help out the rest of us who think Morrissey's comparison makes no sense.
cvoogt
(949 posts)He means they are morally wrong to the same degree. That's how I read it.
Eating meat *is* eating "beings" who have, by and large, been mistreated, tortured, and killed in various horrible ways. I once saw some industrial chicken coops (just from the outside!) and subsequently have avoided the non-organic chicken, but to be honest I barely eat meat anymore and feel pretty conflicted about eating 'beings'. Why should I cause the suffering of another creature? On the other hand, bacon is delicious. I think in an ideal world we'd all personally kill any animals we eat (props to the hunters who eat their quarry), so that we have the courage of our convictions, but as it stands most of us outsource the killing to the meat industry so we can see meat as just something we buy in the store, rather than part of a dead creature. I saw some ribs at the grocery store today and all I could think was how gruesome that is. I can't contemplate killing an animal, so I feel I don't then have a right to eat animals either.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I couldn't have expressed it any better.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)I refuse to eat that chemical/steroid filled store bought meat or eggs, we raise our own chickens, hunt all of our meat, grow our own veggies, we're pretty much self sufficient.
cvoogt
(949 posts)I have thought about raising chickens.. can't do it in my current neighborhood (I think) but long-term I plan to move and do that too. Not sure I see myself hunting, only out of emotional inability to kill an animal - intellectually I think it's totally fine if you do it yourself and eat it yourself, so kudos to you!
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)In no way is eating meat comparable to being a pedophile and I find it offensive that a few here are approving of his comparison.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Kinda discredits the insulter.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)I can't decide who I agree with; a washed up musical hack or my salad.
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)n/t
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Point was made in one post.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)If you think so, then alert and take your best shot.
cvoogt
(949 posts)Perhaps his comparison is not as crazy as it first appears, when you think of it as both being equally reprehensible. Obviously Morrissey considers it as bad as pedophilia since he considers meat murder.
ProgressSaves
(123 posts)Eating meat is the same as having consensual sex and having multiple orgasms.
Deal, veggie breath.
longship
(40,416 posts)sakabatou
(42,152 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)I'm the biggest, most pathetic Morrissey fanboy ever, and I still found that Invention Exchange bit to be absolutely hysterical.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Didn't he say something about stuffing Jamie Oliver's kid into a microwave?
Being a pedophile isn't the same thing as enjoying a cheeseburger. This idiot should just crawl back into obscurity.