This Is what happens When A Little Girl Gives Marijuana A Try...

[Quixote1818]

http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vql5s

[snooper2]

1. this is so awesome...

Is this the same girl from the reality show about the dude growing pot for mom/daughter?

[Voice for Peace]

29. not sure what you refer to, but this is the little girl featured in Sanjay Gupta's special

wherein he presented this story as one reason he has
completely rethought his position on marijuana.

I think this is the show:

[Tx4obama]

136. That IS the show that has the little girl. EVERYONE should watch it :)

[NYC_SKP]

2. Recommended. (nt)

[giftedgirl77]

3. K&R

[B Calm]

4. Another amazing use for marijuana! K&R

[tazkcmo]

5. Made my year. k/r and n/t

[hamsterjill]

6. Good for the parents for being tenacious!!!

I wish their whole family health and happiness.

[librechik]

7. Oh, marijuana. Is there nothing you can't fix?

I'm already a believer. That story makes me happy.

[dchill]

16. Properly administered, it could probably even cure conservatism!

[librechik]

18. cookies for all!

[hibbing]

20. hahahaha ba da ding!

[jmowreader]

25. That would take, like, a ton of marijuana to do

You wouldn't give it to them to smoke. You'd compress it into a bale and drop it on their heads.

[Major Nikon]

31. This guy makes a compelling argument for exactly that

[Egalitarian Thug]

52. +1 for you & K&R for the thread. I was hoping someone would use this. Thanks. n/t

[RainDog]

78. Melamede thinks placebos are the action of endocannabinoids.

...which is kind of an interesting speculation, and one that should be able to be tested.

[mecherosegarden]

94. It would have to be administered in high doses to cure that!

[xxqqqzme]

119. Properly administered would be the key.

I need instructions. My brother has smoked recreational-ly for the last 40 years, Hasn't worked it magic yet.

[decrepittex]

133. That's really a stretch

[AllyCat]

140. !

[Blue_Tires]

92. For years I've been saying planes should drop tons of it over the West Bank

and see if people don't eventually start to wonder what all those years of fighting was all about

[Shampoobra]

96. I take it to help alleviate my pot cravings

[DeSwiss]

98. Water & Weed is all you need!!!

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[truedelphi]

113. What a wonderful medicine wheel!

Thanks for posting it.

[Shampoobra]

131. Thanks for those

I've been studying up on CBD a lot lately, talking with dispensary owners and reading things they distribute to interested patients. Thanks for putting up these two graphics.

[L0oniX]

8. K & R

[colorado_ufo]

9. Tears of joy

[Le Taz Hot]

10. When I think of the thousands of Charlotte's out there

that are denied medication because of complete ignorance, it just makes my blood boil. Stuff like THIS is what "60 Minutes" should be covering. Hell, this should be all over the mainstream media.

[Aerows]

38. Why would "60 Minutes" cover something like this?

That would deny Big Pharma some profits. It's much more important to push war, war, war, do a spin job for the NSA and essentially do commercials for big businesses. "60 minutes" is an advertising agency at this point.

[Le Taz Hot]

66. Waxing nostalic, I suppose,

for what "60 Minutes" used to be. If this treatment came from big pharma, don't you know there would be a huge news blitz. Absolutely disgusting.

[niyad]

134. it struck me anew that big pharma has a vested interest in perpetual war as well. got to have

all those maimed, wounded, mentally injured people, not to mention the families, loved ones, etc., who deal with them.

[Enthusiast]

142. With Frank Luntz in charge

you will never see actually journalism from 60 Minutes again.

60 Minutes now serves exclusively as a conduit for right wing propaganda. I am also seeing the bullshit leaking into the rest of CBS, even in programs that have nothing to do with politics, like Jeopardy.

[Xyzse]

11. That is pretty awesome.

I don't do any of this, but I want that strain.

I hear about all the benefits but not really interested in the psychoactive properties.

[HappyMe]

12. It's cool that this helps this cutie pie.

These guys know what they're doing.

Kudos to the brothers Stanley.

[SidDithers]

13. DU rec...nt

Sid

[BrotherIvan]

43. Reccing Woo?

[SidDithers]

47. This isn't woo...

This is woo: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023476066


Sid

[bvar22]

53. Its "WOO"... until it isn't.

That's the problem with "WOO".
It is an undefined label that some can use to disparage anything they personally disagree with
instead of arguing the effectiveness, efficacy, and merits of the argument.
They generally prefer labels and name calling to actual debate.

Luckily, some consider themselves Authoritarian enough to define "WOO" for the rest of us.
The World would be a much better place if everyone else simply recognized their authority
and believed exactly as they believe,
but be careful!
If you don't, you might get called a bad name.


Thanks.

[BrotherIvan]

56. Yes, these parents should have waited

until there were multiple clinical trials, double-blind studies funded by large pharmaceutical companies, and approval by the FDA...oh wait.

And how many times do we have to read, "Doctors were stunned and had no explanation for the cure/remission/healing, some calling it a miracle." That's because we certainly don't know everything about medicine or the body or even health. We call a legion of diseases "cancer" because we don't know what causes ANY of them.

To say that our current science, which is as primitive as cave paintings, is the only possible path is sheer madness.

[mother earth]

104. Well said, bvar22! Thankfully "woo" is in the eye of the beholder, with triumphs like

this little lady's experience, there is absolutely no way of negating the positive results. The universe & mother nature is rich, never to be minimized.

Long live the "woo" of being open to possibility & going where some might fear to tread. The "woo" fighters are now K & R'ing, maybe there is hope for some of them in spite of themselves. This is naturopathy!!!! A victory for natural medicine!

Long live the mothers & fathers who love their children enough to be their advocates in these incredibly difficult times.

What a great story! I love happy endings.

[BrotherIvan]

55. But those guys don't have lab coats!

And her father figured it out, not doctors!

And this is ANECDOTAL evidence!!!!!!!!!!!

[tridim]

105. LOL

[BrotherIvan]

112. Oh damn, I was hoping for one of these

I just won't feel complete until Sid gives me one!

[riderinthestorm]

63. Won't someone think of the children being harmed by woo!!11!!!

Oh wait....



10 years ago, MJ WAS woo. Still is according to the standards y'all have been setting out as the only "acceptable" ones.

And this is an anecdote... a big no no for you guys...

[SidDithers]

64. Coming from "homeopathy helps my horse!!1!1"...

I'll give your opinion the consideration it deserves.



Sid

[Humanist_Activist]

71. No, about someone who lies as to whether the medicine she gives the horses is...

actually homeopathy at all.

[riderinthestorm]

121. Nope. Wrong again. Arnica Montana 30c tabs from my local Fruitful Yield

Homeopathy section.

My vets carry them too but they're cheaper at my local woo store.



I also use arnica gel when thats indicated.

Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Sometimes both at the same time.

[SidDithers]

122. Arnica 30C doesn't have any arnica in it...

just so you know.

Sid

[riderinthestorm]

124. Tell that to my horses that get relief.

Then try persuading the equine veterinary community that Sid, some anonymous internet dude, says it ain't working despite the objective evidence vets must rely upon for evaluation.

Cause the horses sure aren't lying.

Racehorse owners are funding research so far ahead of human research you are looking silly.

When arnica goes mainstream I'll come find anonymous internet dudes for an apology... meanwhile.y'all can thank equine research for joint injections, botox, chondroitin sulfate, msm and much much more.

[SidDithers]

129. Racehorse owners are fucking idiots...

if they're spending money on homeopathic remedies. And you can tell the owner of the horses you work with that I said that.

Sid

[riderinthestorm]

132. Vets Sid. Their vets. Either the horse gets relief or not.

And I can guarantee you that the more $$ involved, the more likely the owners will tell the vets to fuck off if their million dollar baby isn't winning.

[Humanist_Activist]

123. Its the gel I'm talking about. n/t

[riderinthestorm]

126. Then you can retract your lies about me lying

Since I've been upfront I use both.

[Humanist_Activist]

127. You called the gel a homeopathic remedy, I asked at what concentration...

the arnica was in, you refused to answer.

[riderinthestorm]

128. I never went back to that thread after it blossomed into several hundred responses

That's not a lie. Its simply a lack of time and energy. Oh. And a complete utter lack of concern about the quantity of arnica in the gel which frankly that doesn't matter one whit since I freely admit to using the tabs too, oftentimes independent of the gel.

And I always get pain relief for my animals. Demonstrable relief backed by neutral instruments like ultrasounds and mris, flexion tests and visual examination of the injury site.

I have to admit I'm loving that you and Sid are kicking a clearly anecdotal, unscientific, woo story because of me.

You both are cracking me up!

[riderinthestorm]

118. Uh no, my veterinarians tell me it helps horses.

So I tried it and it does.

Animals can't manufacture a placebo response.

Vets use mris, ultrasounds, rays, direct palpation of the injured sight, and their own visual examination. They can't ask the patient to give them a pain number on a scale of 1 - 10.

So there's no fudging on the part of the patient.

Relief or not.

If they don't give my animals relief they're fired because I only care that the vet has succeeded rather than me (or anyone else) dumping big $ into failing at solving my animals pain.

Honestly I don't give a shit what you and the others think. I demand results from those who treat the animals under my care, custody and control.

Your sneers only demonstrate more clearly how closed minded you all are.

Charlottes Web MJ is saving this girls life. Thats because her parents don't give a shit what you naysayers think.

[CanSocDem]

108. Put down the pipe Sid...

...you're losing the ability to tell the difference. OTOH, if this is you having a epiphany of the efficacy of alternative medicine, by all means, burn that herb!!


.

[daleanime]

14. Kick....

[riderinthestorm]

15. Great story! K&R but don't forget MJ was considered a woo treatment til recently

Couldn't resist

[heaven05]

17. I am glad for Charlotte

keep up the good work. When will the ignorant folks stop this so-called war on reefer. Legalize it, tax it to get your fucking cut and leave people alone.

[kestrel91316]

19. One of my clients years ago lost their toddler son to a severe seizure disorder.

They couldn't name a cause, but he spent most of every day having hundreds of little seizures where he lost consciousness and fell down. It was terribly stunting his intellectual development. He had been to specialists all over the country and the best they could do was put electrodes in and fry multiple seizure foci in his brain, which helped minimally.

I am happy for this little girl and her family, but sad to think a solution for him might have existed but he had no access.

[grahamhgreen]

21. OMG, another woo thread

[1StrongBlackMan]

30. I was going to post something similar ...

but was going to include, "No ... We must let big pharma do what big pharma does ... sell more expensive pills."

(P.S. I'm so glad we have found a point of agreement! )

[grahamhgreen]

125. I'm sure we agree on far more than we disagree:)

[1StrongBlackMan]

144. Yes ...

You're probably correct, particularly in end result.

[DLevine]

22. Huge K&R. nt

[blackspade]

23. This a great story!

But there are no medical or beneficial properties to pot!

[ctsnowman]

24. K & R

[B2G]

26. Amazing - and for the woo shamers,

how many other plants and supplements have unstudied and amazing properties?

Big pharma doesn't want us to find out.

[Ino]

27. Where are all the posts decrying this as an anecdote?

Where are all the dire warnings about the woo and the non-scientific, the cries to arrest these parents for turning their backs on traditional oh-so-scientific medicine, the poo-pooing of this as not evidence of anything?

For more woo-woo, check out Lorenzo's Oil, where non-medical parents came up with a treatment for an incurable disease that the doctors did NOT approve of and would NOT look into.

[JoeyT]

39. Marijuana's ability to help people

with certain conditions is already pretty well established science. It's not the science that's standing in the way, it's a combination of people dumb enough to believe what they heard in the DARE program and people that want to continue the War on Drugs either because it profits them or because they hate African Americans, who the program disproportionately hurts. The same people that tried for decades to suppress the actual science that proved this sort of thing was within the potential of marijuana.

So the people that are all about the science are reccing and kicking this thread, because it's about goddamned time the people that have been denied a proven treatment are starting to get it, and the day it's available to everyone that needs it can't come soon enough.

[Comrade Grumpy]

50. It is an anecdote. A stronger case will be made with controlled studies. That's a good thing.

In the meantime, it's good that this appears to be working for Charlotte and others like her.

[liberal_at_heart]

79. Studies are welcomed but sick people will not wait on a government who is bought and

paid for by the corporations. Sick people can't wait. So, they try it for themselves, and millions find it helps. It's true it may only be anecdotal at this time, but for the people who know it works for them it doesn't matter.

[Mopar151]

110. Let me use a couple terms from the machining world

Repeatability and Reproduceability.

[Voice for Peace]

28. I remember reading a while back about these brothers, and how nobody wanted to buy the high-CBD pot

but they kept growing and experimenting with it anyway.

When I think of this family of brothers my heart just overflows.

[Shampoobra]

75. I bought some yesterday at the MMJ dispensary

"Mystery Catatonic" has 10.15 percent CBD and only .58 percent THC.

https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/washington/tacomapierce-county/mountain-medicine-clinic?c=search

It has the oddest effect. You feel all the familiar sensations of smoking weed, but the "head high" never kicks in (because there isn't any, due to the virtual lack of THC).

But the painkilling effects the CBD provides (from the neck down) creates a state of mind so free of anxiety that natural endorphins kick in, and you feel good, mentally and emotionally, without the THC.

[Voice for Peace]

115. thanks for the review.

I'm a card carrying resident of NM and I'm sure
we'll see more of these strains as time goes on.

[Shampoobra]

130. The CBD capsules are convenient

I've found capsules that had a lot of CBD and THC, but realized those are basically recreational (as far as the effect they have on me).

But the CBD-only capsules are cheap and convenient (meaning you just need access to water, and can leave all the smoking gear at home), and you don't look or feel high when you're on them.

That's why the Mystery Catatonic was such a surprise for me. I had tried CBD capsules, but wasn't used to smoking weed without feeling a THC high.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

32. Does the science back this or is this more woo? On another note,

what a wonderful story!

Live strong, Charlotte!

[7962]

102. What is "woo"??

[Dustlawyer]

33. It works unbelievably well on my small fiber sensory neuropathy except that I am not allowed

to use it. I get drug tested by my pain management doctor as part of my treatment and must take several meds including a schedule 1 drug that is hard on my liver. I hope one day Texas will come out of the dark ages! If Colorado can collect a lot of tax money Texas will start to pay attention. Money has a way of changing conservative morality, that's how we ended up with the Lotto.

[questionseverything]

48. i have heard same in illinois

kind of turns the docs into cops

[2naSalit]

34. Okay so Cannabis is an herb, isn't that woo?

So much positive feedback on this story but it's an herb and, therefore, according to all the science is all there is buffs, this should be considered woo, right?

disclaimer: I think it's really cool that this is a major benefit to this young girl and many like her but it's still an herbal remedy, of which I am a huge advocate.

Just sayin'

[JoeyT]

42. That's not the definition of woo.

It's an herb, yeah, but one that's been tested repeatedly. Plenty of herbs have beneficial compounds in them. An herb goes from beneficial according to anecdote to being medicine when it holds up to testing. Marijuana did and will continue to do so.

Science is on the side of medical weed. Has been for about two decades. The problem wasn't science, it was people that were trying to suppress science.

[bvar22]

57. AND, those people ARE:

[font size=3]*The For Profit Pill Pushers,

*Investors in the Pharmaceutical Industry (Wall Street),

*Those who profit from "Privatized" Prisons,

*The Lawyers and Lobbyists who have captured the Regulatory Agencies

*Their Mouth Pieces in Washington

and

*Hippie Punchers who couldn't get laid, even in the 60s,
and STILL haven't gotten over it.
[/font]

[Humanist_Activist]

73. And they are all bad until you get really sick, then you better support them!

[HangOnKids]

141. Oh you have a smiley friend!

They are so lovely aren't they?

[bvar22]

149. Lovbely,

and EZ too for those who can't carry their weight in an honest debate.


bvar's ROFL postulate:

The first one to use the ROFL smilie as a rebuttal to a post
has publicly admitted that they can no longer defend their position with cogent, logical argument,
and has resorted to childish cartoons in a desperate, but misguided hope that no one at DU is smart enough to can see through their "clever" deception and continuing butt hurt from public embarrassment.

[Ms. Toad]

139. But has it been shown to be effective in randomized double blind placebo controlled studies

for the treatment of seizure disorders, and are the results replicable?

That is the standard by which complementary and alternative medicine have been declared "woo." If that is the standard, then this is "woo," not science.

(Personally, I think we need to focus on developing the tools to be able to evaluate the effectiveness and safety of whatever treatments are being considered and stop fixating on attaching disparaging labels to certain types of care. Since that hasn't happened, those who insist on strict standards for what is "woo" also need to apply those same standards to their pet treatments.)

[mathematic]

61. It's woo if the cannabis is healing seizures via supernatural means

Like repairing her damaged link to the underlying consciousness of the universe. Or by opening up the doors to her True Self. Or by being a "natural" drug put here by God or the creator-spirits, etc.

Something like this is not woo if it can be scientifically evaluated and it has not yet been scientifically evaluated. It should go without saying that if it has been scientifically evaluated and determined to be effective then the treatment is not woo.

You might ask, "If it works then what's the difference?" The difference is that with the woo explanation pot could be used to cure literally anything. You could use it to cure pneumonia. With the scientific explanation, you could use other scientific knowledge about seizures or pot's effect on the body's chemistry to find (and test) other illnesses that can be treated with pot.

Finally, this story is not actually proof that this treatment works. Random chance, confounding variables, or reporting bias are all important considerations in any one testimonial. These are the same reasons we identify "I got rich because I'm awesome" as nonsense. Scientific inquiry is designed to minimize these factors.

[Sgent]

101. To be clear

the scientific method doesn't require that we understand the underlying mechanism -- just that we can replicate the results.

We still do not understand the mechanism behind aspirin, but the lack of understanding doesn't make aspirin woo since we have umpteen studies showing is efficacy in a variety of situations.

Our understanding can even change over time -- for instance statin drugs. Its now believed that their primary benefit comes from reducing certain types of inflammation rather than just lowering cholesterol, ie, cholesterol is the effect not the cause as previously thought.

[Humanist_Activist]

109. Uhm, we do know how aspirin works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin

I'm sorry, I just...damn.

[Sgent]

114. From the wikipedia article

The initial mechanism wasn't discovered until 1971 -- 75 years after aspirin had entered into mainstream use. They have discovered additional mechanisms of action as recently as 2012.

I was a little off on my timing, but aspirin didn't suddenly go from woo to not-woo in 1971. My original pint was that just because we don't understand the underlying mechanism doesn't mean that a therapy is woo. Now, if we refuse to hypothesis test potential mechanisms because it was only understandable by the "ancients", or create supernatural mechanisms, that is woo.

[Humanist_Activist]

116. That may be true, but the fact of the matter is that we do know...

and its very useful to try to figure it out. I thought you were one of the quack defenders here who have literally said they known some homeopathic bullshit works, and that's enough.

[Enthusiast]

143. Tides go in, tides go out?

I kid.

[indepat]

35. The obscenity big brother has committed by not allowing the Charlotte's of our country to legally

use medical marijuana during a several-decade period is incalculably ignorant, absurd, and void of humanity.

[tosh]

37. No kidding.

One of my cats has a grand mal once a month or so, less often now that he's on phenobarb. Point is, his only last a minute or two but they seem like forever.

When I saw Charlotte's story on Gupta's show, I just could NOT IMAGINE! How horrific to be in that state with such frequency and duration!!

It is indeed obscene - no, CRIMINAL - to have denied this treatment to Charlotte and others like her for all of this time.

[tridim]

147. I hear some folks have been giving their pets small doses of cannabis...

for just this reason.

And I hear that in at least one case, a dog with severe epilepsy had her seizures reduced by 95% by giving an almost insignificantly small dose of oral Cannabis immediately after or preferably before an episode.

[WillyT]

36. Wow... Thank You for That... K & R !!!

[Zorra]

40. Yeh

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021107133#post32

[polichick]

41. Woo! Bad! Prove it was the weed! She was probably also taking...

some special new drug from big pharma!


k&r

[drokhole]

62. Don't forget placebo!

Always placebo.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

44. where's that teary eyed smiling smiley thingy?

I need it……

[Blue Owl]

45. Well FFS it is one of "God's Plants"

n/t

[3auld6phart]

46. Charlotte's web

Highly recommended. Don't use MJ myself, but I might if I got sick (enuff). Big pharma will fight this tooth and nail 'till the end of time. Get WELL Charlotte.

[noiretextatique]

49. i am so happy for this little cutie and her parents

yet another reason why the "war on drugs" is an obscene joke and a waste of billions of $$$. Have a good life, Charlotte

[Brickbat]

51. A friend is working hard to make this possible for his daughter, who also has terrible, brain-frying

seizures, several a day. It's heartbreaking to see her lose ground that she works so hard to gain. Bring the day that this is possible for everyone.

[redqueen]

54. It's a shame that SCIENCE!!!! is so easily used by those with a shitty agenda.

Imagine how many people have needlessly suffered, in how many ways, because SCIENCE!!! said pot is BAD, and so many blindly swallowed that SCIENTIFIC!!!! assertion.

[bvar22]

58. Science is good. I love Science.

The "Science" behind Chernobyl and Fukushima is good.
It is when the Profiteers & Marketeers go a hold of the "Science" that Bad Things happened.

the goal of Corporate Research (and their extensions at our Universities) is to Make Money, NOT to produce effective medicines.

[redqueen]

60. Exactly. Hence my saying "SCIENCE!!!" instead of just regular old "science".

It's sadly far too easy to use citations and studies and lots of four-dollar words to convince those who are too credulous, unquestioning, and uncritical of such things.

[Humanist_Activist]

72. For fuck's sake, science, whether capitalized or not, never said that. n/t

[bvar22]

77. However, people who CLAIM to Know Science do say things lke that, even on DU.

Do you remember anything like this?

[font size=3'Everybody RELAX!
They're just venting a little steam.
I know Science,
and these plants are perfectly SAFE
because they have redundant Back-Up systems.

Did I mention that I know "Science" and YOU are just a dumb ass Henny Penny getting all worked up over nothing?
These modern Nuclear Plants are so SAFE that we can now build them on know Earth Quake Faults and on beaches in known Tsunami Areas.

That is a Scientific FACT, because I know "Science", and YOU don't.
So YOU just need to STFU about radiation and melt downs and hysterical Henny Penny "WOO".

Besides, you are exposed to radiation every time you get an X-Ray,
so WHY worry now?
Trust ME, because I know Science...and you need to stop scaring people.
Everybody should listen to ME...because I know "Science"

They're just venting a little STEAM!!!!!.

[/font]
Does that ring a bell with you?
It will for many here.

A group of posters claiming to "Know Science" and their "supporters",
using the 24/7 swarming tactic (popular with a certain crowd) actually ran off DUers with legitimate concerns about Fukushima.

I have never seen a retraction,
apology,
admission of error,
or Mea Culpa
from from ANY of them.

[Humanist_Activist]

80. First off, you are erecting strawmen, then showing ignorance of radiation...

that doesn't need any retractions, you need to learn to calm down and open up a science textbook, you need an education.

[bvar22]

84. Whatever , dude.

I resurrected a composite of posts made at DU by people who claimed to "Know Science".

You really can't remember the cadre that insisted the Fukushima was just venting a little steam,
and there was nothing to be concerned about?
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Really?
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You can't remember that?
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You should get together with Alberto (I can't remember) Gonzalez for a Nostalgia Night.

[Humanist_Activist]

88. I know of nuttiness of RobertEarl and his anti-nuke conspiracy theories...

Outside of that, I don't know what you are talking about, do you have a link?

[redqueen]

82. Funny, I was thinking of the 'banana' posts as I was replying to you earlier.

[bvar22]

85. LOL!

[redqueen]

81. Try reading my post again. nt

[Humanist_Activist]

83. Again, it wasn't science being misused, it was prejudice, political posturing, and government...

overreach that lead to suppression of MJ research, and that's the key, it was suppression of science by government.

[redqueen]

86. So you're just completely unaware of studies which are cited to prove

that it's addictive, has a higher mortality risk than cocaine or alcohol, etc?

[Humanist_Activist]

87. Was that ever the consensus?

Anyone can create a study about anything, whether, after proper peer review, its conclusions are supported or not is what matters, and even then, testing those conclusions shouldn't stop.

[redqueen]

90. So, to you, science isn't science till 'consensus'?

That's cute.

[Humanist_Activist]

91. Actually that IS how it works, don't you know that?

Something isn't supported by science until a type of consensus is reached through peer review. This is basic stuff.

[redqueen]

97. LOL, so what do you call all the research and experimentation that goes on

before "a type of consensus" is reached?

Pre-science? Ante-science? Not-quite-science?

Are you of the opinion that there's no such thing as bad science?

This has been somewhat amusing and all but not nearly enough to continue. Have fun explaining how science works to all those who will listen.

[Humanist_Activist]

100. Do you have any inkling as to what you are talking about?

OK, let me educate you on this...

Let's see, basic summary as to how science works. First there is the hypothesis, its a basic idea, it can be ANY idea, next is experimentation/observation, now, at this point, if you are a good scientist, if the data from those doesn't support the theory, you abandon it and start anew, if it seems to support it, then you submit it for peer review. Now this is the part that I'm talking about, most science isn't accepted by the scientific community, if you can call them that, until a consensus is reach. Now, generally, most hypothesis are abandoned as bad ideas, generally due to either the first round of testing, or through peer review. Or they are modified if they are mostly supported, but not completely.

That's consensus, that's peer review, and that's the part that is most important. Any individual or small team of scientists can bring any number of prejudices into a study, that's why peer review exists, to eliminate those biases as much as possible. Most studies are inaccurate and bad science, that's why they don't survive peer review.

You seem to think that the existence of such studies is in itself a slam against science, when its anything but, that's why I asked if it was part of the consensus, you obviously don't understand how science works.

[redqueen]

103. " You seem to think that the existence of such studies is in itself a slam against science,"

You seem to be having a conversation with someone else in your imagination.

JFC, that is some incredible reading comprehension you've got there

[Packerowner740]

59. A little misleading in the title

I clicked on it expecting to see her somehow smoking or ingesting pot. I never heard of extracting the oil from a cannibus plant. I wonder what other great uses can be gotten from it.

[RandiFan1290]

65. Here are a few

[Packerowner740]

70. Thank you

[BodieTown]

74. Agree About Misleading Titles Here...

...the shock value gets old.

I didn't know about cannibus either until I watched some show on TDC awhile back. There was a little boy with this same problem, and the extract was the only thing that helped him. It was heart-warming.

It also helps others who have a myriad of health disorders.

I have never smoked this plant, but I'm 100 percent in favor of legalizing it. The problem with legalization has been big pharma, the profitization of our justice system, religious interference, and the "war on drugs" (aka, the war on African Americans).

[TheKentuckian]

138. Oil is good stuff, potent.

[packman]

67. Beautiful story

I hate to see anyone suffer, compounded when a child is in distress

[Demo_Chris]

68. What a beautiful story. This brought a tear to my eye...

And just think how many MORE stories like this we will read now that Medical marijuana is more accessible.

[ancianita]

69. How many have suffered for so long because of the criminalizing of this organic substance.

Grateful for people like the Stanley brothers.

[SimpleMan]

76. Wonderful story, but beware...

...this type of marijuana is what anti-marijuana forces are pushing to use as medical marijuana in Florida...precisely because it won't get you high.

Charlotte's Web Cannabis Strain Details

[spanone]

89. k&r...

[lonestarnot]

93. Wow that is fantastic!

[DeSwiss]

95. Yes!

- I'm taking it now! It's been 8 weeks. My PN is getting better! And I can now sleep for more than a couple of hours, for the first time in over 2 years!

K&R

[mountain grammy]

99. The Stanley Brothers are a mighty fine family!

I'm so proud of Colorado for this huge step. Phuck off big pharma!

[mother earth]

106. Natural medicine, aka, naturopathy, victorious! TY, Quixote1818! K & R for a mother being open to

possibilities & being the best advocate for her daughter!

Thank you so much for bringing this here!

[Hekate]

107. What a blessing. KnR

[rurallib]

111. not sure what to say - this is wonderful!

[mettamega]

117. just beautiful ... thanks for posting, will share

[WillyT]

135. For The Woo Tang Klan... But It's Just Anecdotal, Right ???

Wish I could Rec it again.

[Tx4obama]

137. Comment #29 has the VIDEO

[Gothmog]

145. Great story

[dotymed]

146. Since corporate America and the govt.

are figuring out how to make huge profits from this natural herb, they will legalize it finally...all it takes is greed, greed, greed is all it takes.