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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 05:40 PM Jan 2014

Sherrifs Rescue Dog Frozen to Ground

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A Sheltie mix named Peanut was expected to make a full recovery after deputies found him frozen to the ground in sub-zero temperatures in the backyard of a home in Jasper, Ind.

“About five ’til 11:00 last night, our department received an anonymous call about some dogs that were being left outside,” Stuart Wilson with the Dubois County Sheriff’s Office told 14 News.

When deputies arrived they discovered two dogs, one outside on a leash and another inside a dog house.

“A barrel-style dog house. But it was not, certainly not appropriate for the temperatures we had last night. The dog, its stomach and feet and tail had frozen to feces that was in the pen. They took warm water and poured it over the dog to free it from the floor,” Wilson told the station.

Read more: http://ktla.com/2014/01/07/dog-rescued-after-being-found-frozen-to-ground-in-sub-zero-temps/#ixzz2pqTxQcCQ

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Sherrifs Rescue Dog Frozen to Ground (Original Post) joeybee12 Jan 2014 OP
why do people like this get dogs and other animals in the first place ? JI7 Jan 2014 #1
How can anyone be so careless or cruel?! Behind the Aegis Jan 2014 #2
If the snow is deep enough, the bunnies are fine. Jenoch Jan 2014 #7
Poor bebeh! shenmue Jan 2014 #3
That's appalling. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #4
Guess not. Article says no charges filed yet. But both dogs were taken to the Humane Society. freshwest Jan 2014 #6
Max. £20,000 fine in the UK dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #9
In the city or country? You've sitll got fox hunting, and livestock who get slaughtered. There is freshwest Jan 2014 #10
Both dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #13
Not the case in ranch country, in my limited experience. BTW, that £20,000 fine is a fortune. freshwest Jan 2014 #17
The figure I mentioned was the max. Other penalties can apply dependent of circumstances. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #18
Good outcome there, remarkable sensitivity shown in the language applied to the case. freshwest Jan 2014 #19
You know there's about a 100% chance these assholes are getting these dogs back firsttimer Jan 2014 #5
Asshole owners indeed Triana Jan 2014 #8
good news. They are going to bring charges magical thyme Jan 2014 #11
Good...the really important thing, IMHO, is to get all the animals away joeybee12 Jan 2014 #12
was happy to see the humane society is working on that angle too magical thyme Jan 2014 #14
I'm hoping they use that as leverage with the charges... joeybee12 Jan 2014 #15
Dirty motherfuckers need to feel a horsewhipp'n. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #16

JI7

(89,250 posts)
1. why do people like this get dogs and other animals in the first place ?
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jan 2014

they could at least just give the dog to someone else. even a posting on craigslist or a sign outside will get people's attention. and there will usually be someone who will even look after the dog temporarily .

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
2. How can anyone be so careless or cruel?!
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jan 2014

Hell, I have been leaving food out for the bunny and birds in the backyard.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. Guess not. Article says no charges filed yet. But both dogs were taken to the Humane Society.
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 06:03 PM
Jan 2014

No food, water and tied up where it couldn't get out of its own feces, they were apparently left to die.

Those people should not be allowed to own any more pets. And if they have kids, that should be checked into as well, but it may not be.

Sad thing is, in some areas, and I've seen it myself, such animals are legally regarded as livestock to be disposed as one sees fit no matter how barbaric or sadistic. Property rights and all of that...

IDK if this is a rural area, but police response indicates a suburb or small town with a government. Kudos to the neighbor who called the police and their response.

I've lived in rural areas where there were no shelters or city government and if neighbors called the county sheriff office for help, they were regarded as hysterical nuisance calls. The law does not protect animals in places like that.

Good luck to the dogs and may they find a civilized family to take them in.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. In the city or country? You've sitll got fox hunting, and livestock who get slaughtered. There is
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jan 2014
always a dividing line in enforcement, isn't there? According to the region?

Not arguing the excellent work of the royal humane society, its tradition. I spent many hours reading the works of James Herriot after seeing the BBC series, All Creatures Great and Small. A wonderful vision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Creatures_Great_and_Small_%28TV_series%29

In remote areas I've lived, there were people who complained of animal cruelty done to pet animals, as well as to their own if such people chose to aim a few shots at their property and kill their dog or cat for hunting practice or to shut them up. Nothing was done. It was a matter of property rights. Nothing in animal rights, or much in the way of human rights,

When the gates are closed and barn is out of sight, things go on. At times in full hearing of everyone, who could only listen in horror. Or a group of animals would be shot and buried as a protest against prices, publicly. A blind eye was always encouraged and among animal lovers, warnings were exchanged.

Getting revenge on a neighbor for a percieved slight was often done by kidnapping their pets and tossing them out miles away. Or just shooting them from the road. Some called the sherrif to dispatch their own animals by shooting them.

Other stuff I've seen and heard and could do nothing about, because when I did it brought more misery, by gunshot usually until one is living in a state of seige. You really don't want to know. Let's just say like Hogarth, I've seen too much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Stages_of_Cruelty

Certainly not all the people fit what I am referring to here, but they were outnumbered and could not effect changes legally. It was considered a bleeding heart liberal thing to do, and bad for business. And 'none of your business,' too.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. Both
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jan 2014

Citizens arrests are possible to.

Off topic but since you mentioned livestock - after the Cuban revolution there were major problems with rustling. So they changed the law. Penalty for anyone other than a state vet putting a cow down is 4 to 10 years in the slammer. Tourists are generally advised of this incase they think they've got the right of way in a car when a cow is in the road - if they even bump it they need to stay at the scene pending a vet being called to check it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Not the case in ranch country, in my limited experience. BTW, that £20,000 fine is a fortune.
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jan 2014
I've never heard of anything like that in this country. Ever. Good for the UK.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
18. The figure I mentioned was the max. Other penalties can apply dependent of circumstances.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 05:57 AM
Jan 2014

Example here I found this morning here by coincidence :

The cruelest cat owner in Britain: Man filmed swinging his pet kitten around by its tail

A labourer swung his pet kitten around by her tail - because his naughty nephew was visiting and the pet needed to get used to it, a court heard.

Cruel Matthew Coffin, 27, picked his tabby kitten Daisy up and span her around his bedsit to show off to friends.

Shocked, they returned the next day and filmed him abusing the domestic shorthair cat on a mobile phone and reported him to the RSPCA.

>

Magistrates today banned Coffin from keeping any animals for 10 years after he pleaded guilty to two counts of causing unnecessary suffering.

They also ordered him to serve 150 hours of unpaid work under a 12-month community order and pay £150 costs and a £60 victim surcharge.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535819/Cruel-labourer-filmed-swinging-pet-kitten-tail-naughty-nephew-coming-visit-cat-needed-used-it.html#ixzz2ptSyUOZf

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. Good outcome there, remarkable sensitivity shown in the language applied to the case.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jan 2014
Now, what about the naughty kid he expected to come over?

I wonder if he ever witnessed the kid doing such things. Or if he's just a jerk.

But you still haven't answered, perhaps it is just one of those things that most of us aren't comfortable about, what is the country response to animal cruelty not related to loss of revenue. The example of a person hitting a cow on the road applies to monetary loss of property of the farmer although it appears to be in the realm of animal cruelty.

Does the UK 'put down' an animal that is being slaughtered for food? I'd like to say that would be the case, and allegedly it has been the case that animals were to be brain dead at the time of slaughter in the USA.

Some of the most horrific stories that have come out of factory farming in the world, show that such 'humane slaughtering' is not always in play, particularly with assembly lines being sped up and the animals are still alive while being torn to pieces. I won't go into the horror stories, but it is part of meat production.

Is the UK that far ahead of the world in humane treatment of livestock? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, as this subject is hard to deal with and it seems we have two standards of what is legal and humane in the regards of animal suffering.

Which is the question to me that I tried clumsily, in a no doubt rather disturbing matter. There are places where NO rights apply and there are no standards, due to our blinders about letting business be business.

In the case of the cruelest man in Britain, it seems a matter of being in civilization or a city, where others demand better behavior. If he'd been on a farm and did that to a piglet, only an animal rights advocate or a compassionate individual might have stopped him. On the basis that is was bad for the future animal in terms of growth and then... profits again.

Thanks of the interesting replies and I hope you will have time to reply to this comment.

 

firsttimer

(324 posts)
5. You know there's about a 100% chance these assholes are getting these dogs back
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jan 2014

If this was near me I would save them ( steal them) call it what you want.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
11. good news. They are going to bring charges
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:04 PM
Jan 2014
https://www.facebook.com/duboiscountyhumanesociety?ref=search&sid=1547882346.3082461754..1

Update on Peanut - The Dubois County Sheriffs Department announced they are seeking charges of class A misdemeanor animal neglect against George Kimmel, 50, and Dorothy Kimmel, 55, both of the Crystal residence where police found Peanut frozen to the ground. The humane society is also attempting to get the families their to relinquish custody of several other animals found at the residence.
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
12. Good...the really important thing, IMHO, is to get all the animals away
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jan 2014

from those two and find them loving homes.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. was happy to see the humane society is working on that angle too
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

Tempted to donate if only to help them with that.

They also published the assholes names. May their neighbors now keep a very close eye on them. If they were my neighbors, they'd lose all their animals one way or another.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
15. I'm hoping they use that as leverage with the charges...
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:22 PM
Jan 2014

Gives us all the animals and we can reduce the charges...

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