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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:08 AM Jan 2014

My prediction on Christie is that he'll still get the nomination.

I'm betting that there is no evidence that he knew. I'm betting that the investigation comes up empty tying him to it, and goes nowhere on tagging anyone else with anything remotely serious.

There are a number of reasons, the smart way he's handling the scandal now that it's really national news, and the way he's turning Democrats to his favor. http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/09/politics/christie-bridge-fort-lee-mayor/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

The way this is going to play with those who don't follow the ins and outs of Rethug politicians is that Christie was lied to by a staffer, and once the evidence was in that the lie had happened, he reacted forcefully. Then he did the proper thing and offered a personal apology to the Mayor of Fort Lee after a nearly two hour press conference.

The story has legs for another day, or two, and then will fall off of page one, to a paragraph in the national snippets. Especially since he just signed the NJ Dream Act. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/7/christie-signs-praises-new-jerseys-dream-act-law/

He's covered, and he'll come out of this looking like a serious player who takes the improper actions of subordinates seriously.

Not here mind you, here we're going to be dancing on his grave for a year before he's in it, but out there, the people out there just don't care and the news will go back to ignoring him for the most part.

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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
1. This is not an isolated incident...he failed the VP vetting..
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:10 AM
Jan 2014

The Romney folks found a lot of dirt they didn't want to deal with..

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Legitimate prediction. Those posting against the ass here, won't be voting in primaries.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:13 AM
Jan 2014

Lots of so-called independents will see him as a viable candidate.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. He is DONE. Watch the SIX Maddow segments below - this is NOT going away anytime soon.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jan 2014

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The FULL Maddow show regarding Christie is now uploaded on the MSNBC website - link below

SIX segments here: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

The 'An alternate theory of the Christie scandal' segment is awesome

All six segments are a must see

Enjoy!



OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
4. Christie may still end up as their last, best hope.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:17 AM
Jan 2014

Cruz has little appeal outside of the Tea Party faction.

Rand Paul will get the same 10% of the vote his dad received.

Christie represents the GOPs best chance to reach out to indepedents, and their best chance to pick off any states east of the Appalachians and north of the Potomac.

lob1

(3,820 posts)
5. Ordinarily you'd be right, but Christy has pissed off
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:19 AM
Jan 2014

a lot of big republicans, too, and I think that'll hurt him.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
6. Don't agree. He's not going to get past the primaries
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:48 AM
Jan 2014

Remember, republicans have to swing right during the primaries then move back to the center just like democrats swing left then go back to the center.

The republican establishment already hate Christie because he doesn't play ball with them so they're going to put their sizable assets into campaigning against him. The hard right voters aren't going to like him since they're going to feel he's betrayed him by palling around with Obama and more importantly in their eyes giving up the fight against gays by signing a bill outlawing gay conversion therapy as well as dropping legal challenges to gay marriage.

And let's face it... He is not a handsome man. Every single commercial against him will be in black and white with incredibly unattractive photos of him, probably sweating profusely and talking about his sleazy politics, being Obama's bud, and how he's the only republican from a state that has protected gay rights and marriage.

Conservative Joe Sixpack won't go for it.

TlalocW

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
7. I don't think so, he's far too liberal for the party as it stands now
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:54 AM
Jan 2014

Arm twisting and back room deals with the old guard got them Romney, such a poor candidate he got humiliated, not merely defeated. However, he was "electable," meaning he didn't scare Wall Street.

They're not going to be able to do that a second time. Teabaggers and religious crazies will have had another 4 years to sharpen their claws and demand a lunatic like Santorum or Paul in the top slot.

If they fail to agree on a candidate, I won't be a bit surprised.

I just hope the fist fights are televised.

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
8. I don't think he ever had a chance
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:59 AM
Jan 2014

I know he leads in some name recognition polls (as Giuliani did in '07), but he's more like a repub strategist's wet pipe dream than the sort of wolf in milquetoast's clothing who wins GOP primaries (per Reagan, Poppy, Dole, *, McCain ... if the base decides to buck this trend, it'll be a whackjob like Cruz not some made-for-Joisey Fat Tony archetype, although the Dobson/Schlafly-approved firebrands are historically muscled out in the nick of time by the dread GOP Establishment.) I think Bruce Springsteen, Tom Kean, and the ghost of Vince Lombardi have a better chance of winning the nomination, but maybe America's heartland is secretly yearning for an ungainly, rude, condescending jerk-ass from the northeast.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
9. My only reservation about all of this is the way he totally threw Bridget and
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 01:12 AM
Jan 2014

Stepian (sp?) under the bus. He called them liars and scoundrels on world-wide TV. Now, if I was one of them and Christie was simpatico...I would be hugely pissed. Now, he could have paid them off? But, it takes balls to humiliate them and expect no retribution....

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
10. Its not that hes to liberal because hes not
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 03:42 AM
Jan 2014

he doesnt play well with others, hes so obnoxious even the GOP cant stand him, coz hes only slightly moderate on a couple issues.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
11. Just wait until the primaries when the repukes are feeding on each other...
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 03:44 AM
Jan 2014

This thing will be a dead weight around his neck and the repukes aiming for the nomination will tear him down with it at every chance.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
12. 12 hours ago I would have agreed. But it looks like the Republican Party's own "sensible center"
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 03:52 AM
Jan 2014

- the professional operative class and financial industry wing - might be moving away from him - recognizing that there is just too much baggage - If that is the case - he does not have a base. Also, the possibility of him being directly implicated is looking more likely.

anti partisan

(429 posts)
13. LOL no. Christie is toast.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 04:09 AM
Jan 2014

The only thing he had going for him was somehow the belief out there that he 'wasn't a politician'. Well he is one, and a very dirty one at that.

It's going to be Jebby Bush or Paul Ryan. Doubt Ted Cruz is going to run. If the base is angry enough they may actually nominate a real Tea Partier this time around. Rand Paul? Maybe Todd Akin will run.

Gothmog

(145,558 posts)
15. The tea party still hates him and donors will be afraid to support Christie
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:00 AM
Jan 2014

Christie's base is outside the tea party. This scandal is not going away. The democrats can time the grant of immunity to keep the story alive

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