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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:12 AM Jan 2014

Jersey's Top Paper Isn't Buying Christie's Story: It 'Stretches The Bounds Of Belief'

Jersey's Top Paper Isn't Buying Christie's Story: It 'Stretches The Bounds Of Belief'

The editorial page of the largest newspaper in New Jersey has some serious doubts that Gov. Chris Christie (R) only learned this week that a close aide signed off on lane closures that caused paralysis on the George Washington Bridge last summer.

The governor's claim, wrote the editorial board of The Star-Ledger on Thursday, "stretches the bounds of belief."

When his appointees at the Port Authority resigned, did he really not ask why? And was he not curious enough to inquire about the content of the emails being handed over in these subpoenas? Did he really just wait to read about it all in the papers?

The Star-Ledger, which begrudgingly endorsed Christie for re-election last year, published another tough editorial earlier this week, questioning whether the presumed presidential candidate can be trusted "as a potential future leader of our country."

Another Garden State paper, The Bergen Record, argued Thursday that the lane closures on the bridge warrant a criminal investigation.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/star-ledger-christie-bridge-bounds-of-belief

Chris Christie's press conference claims don't add up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024305850

No One Believes Christie
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024307011


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Jersey's Top Paper Isn't Buying Christie's Story: It 'Stretches The Bounds Of Belief' (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2014 OP
You know what though JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #1
It's beyond comprehension that ProSense Jan 2014 #2
A kick for truth! JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #3
For me, it's not beyond comprehension... elzenmahn Jan 2014 #7
I'd like to see Christie resign. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #9
Beyond "credulity"... ReRe Jan 2014 #17
That's why we call it the imthevicar Jan 2014 #16
"The Star-Ledger, which begrudgingly endorsed Christie for re-election last year" BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #4
K&R thanks PS Cha Jan 2014 #5
He knew. No way he didn't. El_Johns Jan 2014 #6
He's in a no-win situation... elzenmahn Jan 2014 #8
True, and still ProSense Jan 2014 #10
Good for the Star Ledger for saying so. merrily Jan 2014 #11
The Liberal Media pscot Jan 2014 #12
Wouldn't Seedersandleechers Jan 2014 #13
He might have her and others PatSeg Jan 2014 #15
oh dear Skittles Jan 2014 #14
If this goes to court, Christie still may get away with something Sheepshank Jan 2014 #18
Every CEO I know has all the top newspapers on their desk when they arrive Sienna86 Jan 2014 #19
People Are Talking As Though All Of The Pertinet Documents Have Been Released DallasNE Jan 2014 #20

JustAnotherGen

(31,879 posts)
1. You know what though
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jan 2014

They did not endorse him begrudgingly . . . they did it with glee. It's the same day I cancelled my subscription prior to picking up the phone and making calls for Buono.

I don't disagree with them on this - but they endorsed him with glee.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. It's beyond comprehension that
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jan 2014

this bully keeps getting away with his bullshit.

For the record - chris christie IS a bully and the Viceroy of Vendetta. Track record:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024306587

At the heart of the scandal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024309949

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
7. For me, it's not beyond comprehension...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 12:18 AM
Jan 2014

...it's because people confuse authoritarianism and despotism with leadership.

This isn't new for New Jersey, BTW. And it isn't exclusive to Republicans - look into the shenanigans promulgated by George Norcross III and his minions.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
17. Beyond "credulity"...
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jan 2014

He has absolutely no credibility. Actually, he, personally, is in the minus range of credibility. Had I been the governor of that state, I would have hopped on that lane-closer business on the GWB on day one. It was blatant political retribution against someone, if not several someones. Like "killing 2 or more birds with one stone", so-to-speak. Proof? Where's the "traffic study?"

BumRushDaShow

(129,442 posts)
4. "The Star-Ledger, which begrudgingly endorsed Christie for re-election last year"
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 02:37 PM
Jan 2014

And there's your problem right there. Despite his pattern of bullying, with plenty of video footage as proof, the papers endorsed him anyway. And that includes my hometown paper, the Phila. Inquirer.



Maybe they are eating crow? Or better, they don't care either way and are in a feeding frenzy.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
8. He's in a no-win situation...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 12:19 AM
Jan 2014

If he's telling the truth, he's an idiot and incompetent for leadership of the dog catching department.

If he's lying, well then, he's lying - and is still unfit for office.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. True, and still
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 12:37 AM
Jan 2014

"If he's telling the truth, he's an idiot and incompetent for leadership of the dog catching department.

If he's lying, well then, he's lying - and is still unfit for office. "

...something about this story stinks. The motive (revenge against a mayor) doesn't add up.

It Doesn't Fit

Something odd's happening in the Christie bridge scandal. As the number of people involved in ordering and then covering up the bridge closure grows, the would-be target of the action seems to shrink. Something doesn't fit.

<...>

There is one theory that makes sense of most of the evidence. Perhaps this really did start as the harebrained idea of just a few people - Wildstein, Baroni, Kelly et al. - and then the bigger players only came in once they realized what was happening and saw the danger it posed to Christie.

Maybe.

At the moment, that's the most plausible explanation. But it really doesn't add up. There's some as yet unseen factor at work here that makes sense of all this. But I don't think we know yet what it is.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/it-doesnt-fit

There is no way Christie didn't know, and it's not feasible that Kelly initiated this. Something is missing.

On Rachel Maddow's show tonight, it's clear that John Wisniewski is not buying Christie's BS.




merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. Good for the Star Ledger for saying so.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 03:01 AM
Jan 2014

I imagine that there are many ways that Christie could retaliate against the Star Ledger, including giving "scoops" to rivals, so this took courage.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
12. The Liberal Media
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:08 PM
Jan 2014

is always pickin' on conservatives. Look how they ignored Bengazi and the IRS scandal.

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
15. He might have her and others
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:22 PM
Jan 2014

so intimidated that they won't squeal, but eventually someone that he's thrown under the bus will speak up, maybe in the form of a tell-all book. He's left a trail of abused and bullied people, and what goes around comes around.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
18. If this goes to court, Christie still may get away with something
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 08:11 PM
Jan 2014

but as a presidential hopeful he would have been crispy done

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
19. Every CEO I know has all the top newspapers on their desk when they arrive
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jan 2014

How the heck did the Governor miss this big story in September affecting his state?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
20. People Are Talking As Though All Of The Pertinet Documents Have Been Released
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 04:50 AM
Jan 2014

But these are only the documents coming from a single source. Will Christie attempt to exert executive privilege to keep the documents Kelly has under wraps because to do so would bring charges of what is Christie hiding. Also, there could be challenges to some of the redacting on the documents already released. This is a long ways from being over. A long ways.

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