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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:16 PM Jan 2014

WNYC: More New Jersey Mayors Say They Think They Were Punished For Not Playing Along w/ Christie

@GregMitch: RT @politicalwire: More New Jersey mayors say they think they were punished for not playing along with Chris Christie
http://t.co/wXKAyEEkVJ

http://www.wnyc.org/story/nj-mayors-was-christie-getting-revenge-me-too/

NJ Mayors: Was Christie Getting Revenge on Me, Too?

Friday, January 10, 2014
By SARAH GONZALEZ : Reporter, WNYC/NJPR

Mayors in New Jersey say they're starting to consider foul play on behalf of the Christie administration in light of the George Washington Bridge lane closure controversy.

Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer says she had a face to face visit with Governor Christie in the Spring, when he asked her to endorse him for re-election. She told him she would be remaining neutral.

“He was quite disappointed, but I wouldn't say that he was angry. He was disappointed and said he would keep asking,” Zimmer said. "And I said, 'We can keep the conversation going but I don't expect to be changing my position.’ And I didn't.”

She had applied for a Hazard Mitigation Grant to protect Hoboken from flooding. During Sandy, 80 percent of the city was under water.

Zimmer says she asked the state for $100 million in grants. She got $300,000 — a fraction of 1 percent.

“It's a lot less and I was extremely disappointed,” Zimmer said. “And at the time I was angry because I felt like the focus was on the shore.”

- snip -

In Jersey City, Mayor Steven Fulop recently disclosed that the Christie administration cancelled several meetings — the day after he refused to endorse the Governor.

In Elizabeth, Chris Bollwage, who has been the mayor for 21 years, says his city has gotten payback from Christie after its state legislators opposed several pieces of the Governor's legislation.

“The Governor's retribution was to close down the Division of Motor vehicles here in the city of Elizabeth, which is the fourth largest city in the state of New Jersey,” Bollwage said.

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WNYC: More New Jersey Mayors Say They Think They Were Punished For Not Playing Along w/ Christie (Original Post) Hissyspit Jan 2014 OP
I smell a massive investigation coming. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #1
Christie is a classic bully and partisan as hell. democratisphere Jan 2014 #2
It might not be illegal just unethical. I believe it happens in lots of states. mucifer Jan 2014 #3
Belies the "I am not a Bully" statement, though. Cha Jan 2014 #12
"I am not a crook, I am not a witch, I am not a bully..." marions ghost Jan 2014 #38
My, the list is growing. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2014 #4
Christie's ProSense Jan 2014 #5
That's the funny thing.. because he seemed to take pride in being known as a bully. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2014 #7
But, now.. it's all.. "I am Not a Bully." Ha. Cha Jan 2014 #14
Pride? He Actively Cultivates the Image! Laxman Jan 2014 #19
So that was fixed? The guy in the blue shirt is a ringer? El_Johns Jan 2014 #44
Apparently, he and his staff actively cultivate that image and work at publicizing it. enough Jan 2014 #25
That is so awfully creepy. There are so many people in the US who admire - bullies? El_Johns Jan 2014 #45
It Sure Looks That Way... Laxman Jan 2014 #46
That Christie is using PR tactics to position himself as a "tough bully" is incredibly depressing El_Johns Jan 2014 #47
This is like a serial sex abuser. Once it comes out, the victims slowly come forward. TheBlackAdder Jan 2014 #6
It's like the mafia LiberalElite Jan 2014 #20
I didn't nickname him "Governor Soprano" rocktivity Jan 2014 #23
The fear factor is broken. jsr Jan 2014 #43
As people lose their fear of Christie, we will see more such reports Gothmog Jan 2014 #8
Zactly. Cha Jan 2014 #15
At some point, there will be a rush to make complaints Gothmog Jan 2014 #21
" (b) if Christie did not abuse you, then you were doing something wrong." Cha Jan 2014 #37
During Watergate, it was a honor to on Nixon's enemies list Gothmog Jan 2014 #39
I bet! And, now.. those Dem Mayors who stood firm Cha Jan 2014 #40
You Are Correct Sir! Laxman Jan 2014 #27
Awesome! SunSeeker Jan 2014 #33
I agree. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #28
Nicknamed him "Governor Soprano" rocktivity Jan 2014 #52
I think that is exactly right. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #36
Why the heck does Christie feel entitled to endorsements from Democrats? treestar Jan 2014 #9
he was going for the "bipartisan support" meme. just didn't plan on the bullying/ extortion one. bettyellen Jan 2014 #13
Yes, I would think true bipartisanship treestar Jan 2014 #16
And why would Democrats support him? imo real Democrats wouldn't. polichick Jan 2014 #26
Trust in the NJ Governorship Shankapotomus Jan 2014 #10
Just as we Suspected! Christie is sooooooo Cha Jan 2014 #11
Hoboken was devastated by Sandy, and it's very densely populated area. but of course he bettyellen Jan 2014 #17
didn't the Fort Lee mayor say something about investigating where the Sandy money went? CatWoman Jan 2014 #18
This sounds very much like politics as usual in DC justiceischeap Jan 2014 #22
The Mayor of Seaside Park didn't endorse Christie. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #24
Oh oh. Im not going to say what Im thinking SummerSnow Jan 2014 #29
Arson? bettyellen Jan 2014 #35
I thought it before I posted the article. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #42
Called it! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #30
What a petty and vindictive asshole. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #31
"Nice little city you got here, Mayor. Hate to see something happen to it." nt SunSeeker Jan 2014 #32
Drip drip drip. nt BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #34
"I'm Not a Bully" jsr Jan 2014 #41
Josh Marshall: Following the Money on Bridgegate ProSense Jan 2014 #48
Kick nt Hissyspit Jan 2014 #49
Christy Revealed alfredo Jan 2014 #50
Nazi thuggishness plays well with the base. Turbineguy Jan 2014 #51
Rachel had the e-mails from one of these mayors on her show last night Gothmog Jan 2014 #53
K&R. (nt) Kurovski Jan 2014 #54

mucifer

(23,564 posts)
3. It might not be illegal just unethical. I believe it happens in lots of states.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:30 PM
Jan 2014

But, then again I live in Illinois where recently 3 exgovernors were in prison and we have a slimy dem named madigan running the state legislature with people fearing to cross him and lets not forget mayor rahm here in Chicago.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Christie's
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:43 PM
Jan 2014

bullying and pettiness are well documented.

Stories Add Up as Bully Image Trails Christie

By KATE ZERNIKE

In 2010, John F. McKeon, a New Jersey assemblyman, made what he thought was a mild comment on a radio program: Some of the public employees that Gov. Chris Christie was then vilifying had been some of the governor’s biggest supporters.

He was surprised to receive a handwritten note from Mr. Christie, telling him that he had heard the comments, and that he didn’t like them.

“I thought it was a joke,” Mr. McKeon recalled. “What governor would take the time to write a personal note over a relatively innocuous comment?”

But the gesture would come to seem genteel compared with the fate suffered by others in disagreements with Mr. Christie: a former governor who was stripped of police security at public events; a Rutgers professor who lost state financing for cherished programs; a state senator whose candidate for a judgeship suddenly stalled; another senator who was disinvited from an event with the governor in his own district.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/25/nyregion/accounts-of-petty-retribution-reinforce-christies-bullying-image.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024306587

Christie Says,"I Am Not a Bully." Here Are 8 Videos of Him Yelling,Name-Calling,and BelittlingPeople
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024306949

The current scandal takes it to another level: criminal

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024316362

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
19. Pride? He Actively Cultivates the Image!
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jan 2014
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Mayors who didn't immediately back his 2% budget cap idea saw state aid cut.

Public officials who serve on independent commissions have been threatened with loss of state aid for their towns if they didn't vote the way Christie wanted them to.

Legislators have been threatened with criminal prosecution ( and conversely relieved of the threat) for supporting certain legislation.

Anyone who crosses him, even members of his own party, are shut out of state government.

And of course Sandy money, Sandy money, Sandy money!


enough

(13,262 posts)
25. Apparently, he and his staff actively cultivate that image and work at publicizing it.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:04 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/01/08/chris-christies-problem-is-that-hes-really-truly-a-bully/

Christie inhabits a rare space in American politics: He's a bully. He's followed around by an aide with a camcorder watching for moments in which Christie, mustering the might and prestige of his office, annihilates some citizen who dares question him.

Almost everywhere Christie goes, he is filmed by an aide whose job is to capture these “moments,” as the governor’s staff has come to call them. When one occurs, Christie’s press shop splices the video and uploads it to YouTube; from there, conservatives throughout the country share Christie clips the way tween girls circulate Justin Bieber videos. “The YouTube stuff is golden,” says Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review. “I can’t tell you how many people forward them to me.” One video on Christie’s YouTube channel — a drubbing he delivered to another aggrieved public-school teacher at a town hall in September — has racked up over 750,000 views.

Now in Moorestown, Christie was hoping to create another such moment. After some introductory remarks, he opened the floor to questions. “For those of you who have seen some of my appearances on YouTube,” he cautioned, peeling off his suit jacket as he spoke, “this is when it normally happens.”

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Laxman

(2,419 posts)
46. It Sure Looks That Way...
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 09:34 AM
Jan 2014

the guy who put it together is a media relations guy with 25 years of experience doing video. He said it was all just too perfect for a pubic appearance. The video cameras in the right spot, Chrisite standing in right spot, the photographers right there, the guy standing up.Not just chance. plus Christie travels everywhere with a videographer just hoping to catch such scenes of YouTube gold.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
47. That Christie is using PR tactics to position himself as a "tough bully" is incredibly depressing
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 03:16 PM
Jan 2014

to me. First because I would have never imagined that "bully" would be so popular of an image, & second because it highlights how much our public space is dominated by sheer fantasy, image making & manipulation.

This is not a democracy.

I'll add a third: if Christie had such a developed program for doing this, it tells me lots of other politicians do as well, AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT.

And a fourth: if Christie & his staff are willing to harm the public in furtherance of their own ends, it tells me other politicians do the same, AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT.

What a pile of stinking corruption.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
6. This is like a serial sex abuser. Once it comes out, the victims slowly come forward.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jan 2014

I remember my town and county took major hits in state funding when he got in office.

The feeling was, in my area... you either play or pay.


===

This is probably why there were so many Dem endorsements. The politicians weighed the damage in refusing to endorse him against the retaliation... especially as the polls showed it would be a landslide anyway.

Only the politicians with balls stood up for their convictions, though it put their towns at potential risk.


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The first people I would question are those Democrats who supported him. To see if there was duress.

Gothmog

(145,542 posts)
8. As people lose their fear of Christie, we will see more such reports
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jan 2014

Most people are afraid of christie because he is a bully. Bullies lose their power when people cease to be afraid of them

Gothmog

(145,542 posts)
21. At some point, there will be a rush to make complaints
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jan 2014

At some point, people will realize that (a) it is safe to report abuses by Christie and (b) if Christie did not abuse you, then you were doing something wrong.

Gothmog

(145,542 posts)
39. During Watergate, it was a honor to on Nixon's enemies list
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:03 PM
Jan 2014

There were democrats who were upset if they were not on Nixon's list

Cha

(297,618 posts)
40. I bet! And, now.. those Dem Mayors who stood firm
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:13 PM
Jan 2014

and did not endorse Christie are looking like heroes.. as well as Barbara Buono! Can you believe it!

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
27. You Are Correct Sir!
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jan 2014


He recently lost a big battle to put a gas pipeline through the globally significant Pinelands in south jersey to serve an aging power plant owned by a private equity firm with ties to the Koch Brothers. He tried to strongarm the Pinelands Commissioners. But...the vote wasn't taken until the day after the GWB scandal broke! For the first time in a long time he didn't get his way.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
28. I agree.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:17 PM
Jan 2014

Christie could be charged with racketeering. Christie operates on the principles of the mafia.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
36. I think that is exactly right.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jan 2014

Now that the ice has been broken, and scrutiny is at a high level and likely to continue, all kinds of abuses will come to light.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. Why the heck does Christie feel entitled to endorsements from Democrats?
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jan 2014

Looks like the bridge is the tip of an iceberg.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. he was going for the "bipartisan support" meme. just didn't plan on the bullying/ extortion one.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jan 2014

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. Yes, I would think true bipartisanship
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jan 2014

would not involve demands of actual support from the opposing party, threats, canceling meetings and messing with federal money for a disaster. The whole image Christie presents is thus a lie anyway.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
10. Trust in the NJ Governorship
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:52 PM
Jan 2014

has been completely poisoned and undermined.

Every move in Trenton and every unfavorable policy and action effecting counties and politicians uncooperative with Christie is now permanently suspect.

Christie must step down now.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. Hoboken was devastated by Sandy, and it's very densely populated area. but of course he
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jan 2014

sent the money down by the shore, where his voters are.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
22. This sounds very much like politics as usual in DC
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jan 2014

I wonder as more Mayors come forward if any will come with something prosecutable.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
30. Called it!
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jan 2014

I said from the moment it happened.....Christie's skeletons are going to start flying out of his closet!

It's going to get worse for him...that is why he is playing victim...he isn't trying to save his career...he is trying to prevent a major lawsuit and or jail time!

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
50. Christy Revealed
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jan 2014


They can imitate feelings, but the only real feelings they seem to have: is a sort of 'predatorial hunger' for what they want. All else - all activity - is subsumed to this drive. In short, the psychopath is a predator. If we think about the interactions of predators with their prey in the animal kingdom, we can come to some idea of what is behind the "mask of sanity" of the psychopath.

This leads us to an important question: what does the psychopath really get from their victims? It's easy to see what they are after when they lie and manipulate for money or material goods or power. But in many instances we can only say that it seems to be that the psychopath enjoys making others suffer.

Laura Knight-Jadczyk

Turbineguy

(37,364 posts)
51. Nazi thuggishness plays well with the base.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:28 PM
Jan 2014

Teabaggers will be happy that Obama's attempt at civilizing CC did not go anywhere.

Gothmog

(145,542 posts)
53. Rachel had the e-mails from one of these mayors on her show last night
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 08:03 PM
Jan 2014

The only reason for a Democratic officeholder to support Christie is fear.

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