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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:15 PM Jan 2014

So, yeah, fuck this day.

Last edited Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:32 PM - Edit history (1)

So, let's see...guy shot by retired cop for texting during previews in a movie theater...Post columnist calls Newtown "convenient" in print...the new spending deal cuts funds for Wall Street watchdogs...another school shooting...net neutrality is all but dead, killed by a court with a conservative bent because Congress wouldn't let Obama's appointees come up for a vote...people in West Virginia still can't drink the water because of a spill at a site that hasn't been inspected since 1991, yet the House Speaker says we have enough regulations already...

Yeah, not what I'd call a banner day here in America.

Don't mind the noise. I'm just breaking things.



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So, yeah, fuck this day. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jan 2014 OP
K&R.... daleanime Jan 2014 #1
Some days it really sucks to be a newsjunkie. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #2
Lately.... CherokeeDem Jan 2014 #3
You really shouldn't be breaking things snooper2 Jan 2014 #4
So, about that net neutrality thing you mention... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #5
Just a lay person here, but net neutrality I don't think will impact your job in the solar industry. 2banon Jan 2014 #24
You have that backwards. jeff47 Jan 2014 #49
Yes, I understand your point, I just wasn't clear in my explanation 2banon Jan 2014 #51
Yes, it could harm your business. jeff47 Jan 2014 #48
Thanks for making that clear Jeff47 2banon Jan 2014 #52
A scenario such as you describe will kill our business. And countless other businesses too. If ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #55
I would say it has the potential to cause you harm. Egnever Jan 2014 #63
I hope you are right. I'm not sure the "tech industry" Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #75
In the future, your IsP could charge you more to make your website load faster Fiendish Thingy Jan 2014 #71
This is what I believe will happen . . . aggiesal Jan 2014 #74
Why aren't more businesses speaking out against it? CrispyQ Jan 2014 #77
The lack of empathy in the country amazes me . . . aggiesal Jan 2014 #82
:( shenmue Jan 2014 #6
But Beavis mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #7
That depends on your perspective. RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #25
Pressure or lack thereof is often a relative matter :) mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #28
Sad to say, but the US SUCKS! nt City Lights Jan 2014 #8
Thank you. Your post has inspired me to... Shampoobra Jan 2014 #9
You look cool in those shades... lame54 Jan 2014 #10
du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #11
Well, maybe today is the day the Republican voters will realize... tridim Jan 2014 #12
... temporary311 Jan 2014 #16
Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening. dgibby Jan 2014 #34
They are incapable of processing such information. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #66
And in my backyard xxqqqzme Jan 2014 #13
Alan agrees... progressoid Jan 2014 #14
which film is that from? Demeter Jan 2014 #42
It's from a thing called "Epic Tea Time with Alan Rickman" progressoid Jan 2014 #53
Poor thing....maybe if the water had been hot Demeter Jan 2014 #54
Don't forget the SCOTUS screwing farmers in their fight against GMO sinkingfeeling Jan 2014 #15
Hard not to feel helpless rage, I know, but we are making effective inroads. nolabear Jan 2014 #17
Thank you Will Pitt! ananda Jan 2014 #18
John Goodman's character's unraveling in treme was perhaps his best acting moment so far. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #19
Don't leave out the Orange County jury who LibDemAlways Jan 2014 #20
Plus the Kelly Thomas verdict…so very sad... Tikki Jan 2014 #21
I would . My kids do not have lower cognitive abilities but they know about police and what they can lunasun Jan 2014 #37
Oh, I know what happened..and it is criminal that they got away with murder. Tikki Jan 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #22
Two of the three judges in the network neutrality case are Clinton appointees onenote Jan 2014 #23
And the third one was a Reagan appointee. But hush up. the guy is on a roll here. legcramp Jan 2014 #30
There have been some REALLY lousy rulings out of the DC Circuit Court, recently. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #26
john goodman.... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #27
I find myself using this smilie waaay too much lately: Brigid Jan 2014 #29
AMEN, and THANK YOU! JustinBulletin Jan 2014 #31
Stop the country! Warpy Jan 2014 #32
+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #68
My sentiments exactly. n/t Triana Jan 2014 #33
well said Rider3 Jan 2014 #35
don't forget another school shooting today NMDemDist2 Jan 2014 #36
on the plus side -- Oklahoma's gay marriage ban ruled unconstitutional fishwax Jan 2014 #39
Ditto that Mr Goodman. Marie Marie Jan 2014 #40
I'm going to go repeatedly smash my head between two cinder blocks NuclearDem Jan 2014 #41
Don't do it, dude! Mopar151 Jan 2014 #44
Nice Yauch-rage. (use of Yauch) flvegan Jan 2014 #43
+1. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #50
Was just thinking of him yesterday. Barack_America Jan 2014 #56
Not a day passes that I don't think of him. flvegan Jan 2014 #57
Yeah, it's funny... Barack_America Jan 2014 #58
K&R! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #45
Bad things happen every day, Will. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #46
Take heart in today, Will. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #47
Hey man, there's still good in that cute little face in your avatar. Barack_America Jan 2014 #59
And I was going to complain...... raven mad Jan 2014 #60
Welcome to DU uppityperson Jan 2014 #61
Near Fairbanks. raven mad Jan 2014 #62
1st 34 seconds say it all... nikto Jan 2014 #64
I still try to Feel Good despite it being quixotic at this point ..... lunasun Jan 2014 #70
Good response nikto Jan 2014 #83
WilliamPitt, these fucks................... Enthusiast Jan 2014 #65
Just another day in the wonderful land of Oz! B Calm Jan 2014 #67
I have no hope. I see no future. n/t Hotler Jan 2014 #69
..and in the future the word "fuck" will get your post hidden. L0oniX Jan 2014 #72
We ARE in the corp. state. The debate is when the police state arrives. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #76
The corporate state is the police state. Remember, the corporate state pays their salaries. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #78
Fuck!!!!!! I hope not!!!!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Jan 2014 #81
Yeah... davidthegnome Jan 2014 #73
DU has an app for that. grantcart Jan 2014 #79
Look for many more bad days for such is the inevitable fruits of right-wing governance indepat Jan 2014 #80
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
5. So, about that net neutrality thing you mention...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jan 2014

I work from home as the ecommerce admin and manager of a website that sells solar and wind power systems. We're a small business with sales offices on both coasts.

Will this net neutrality business cause us harm? I've been doing this job for seven years and am hoping to continue doing so for the foreseeable future...at least 20 years even. I am also handicapped with arthritis and can no longer work in my primary trade, which is commercial construction. Should I be worried that our website will not be able to operate as it has since 1998 and should I be prepared to be unemployed due to net neutrality?

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
24. Just a lay person here, but net neutrality I don't think will impact your job in the solar industry.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jan 2014

one way or the way. Someone more knowledgeable might answer your question better, but this is in part about freedom of access to all information and sources on the internet, sans control from big telecom and media corporations or other agents.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
49. You have that backwards.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:04 AM
Jan 2014
this is in part about freedom of access to all information and sources on the internet, sans control from big telecom and media corporations or other agents.

That's what the situation was, when the FCC enforced net neutrality. "Big telecom and media corporations" had to treat all Internet data the same way, regardless of where it came from and where it's going.

This ruling ends that.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
48. Yes, it could harm your business.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:03 AM
Jan 2014

The goal of bringing this case was to allow ISPs to "speed limit" or outright block Internet content.

On the consumer side, think of it like a cable TV package. You want to get to Facebook? That's an extra $5/mo. You work from home? Well, you'll need our "Telecommute" package. That'll be an extra $50/mo.

On the business side, they also intend to shake down the businesses. So Time Warner can stop by and say "if you want your potential customers on our network to see your web site, you'll need to pay us. Even though we aren't your ISP."

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
55. A scenario such as you describe will kill our business. And countless other businesses too. If
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:09 AM
Jan 2014

that happens, I would rather die exacting my rage than die in a street gutter, which is where I will end up if that happens.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
63. I would say it has the potential to cause you harm.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:18 AM
Jan 2014

However I doubt it will.

This is really about streaming or content sharing. These activities eat up huge amounts proportionally of the available bandwith. The telecoms need to build out infrastructure to handle the demand regardless of if you just use the web to surf or if you constantly pound the thing.

I doubt your business would ever trigger the things they want to charge for but, this ruling lets them if they decided they wanted to.

It has the potential to have providers pick and chose winners and losers on the net simply by throttling speeds available to them. Make the site they like or pays for it fast to load and the one they don't creep slowly.

I dont think this ruling will stand. I might be in denial.

If it does stand legislation needs to be passed to ensure net neutrality.

The thing is most of the tech industry is for net neutrality so the push back on this judgment should be pretty loud and forceful.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
75. I hope you are right. I'm not sure the "tech industry"
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:24 PM
Jan 2014

has all that much power compared to the "providers," the courts are aligning with our corporate state, and Congress? Congress? That is the theater of the CS.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,646 posts)
71. In the future, your IsP could charge you more to make your website load faster
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jan 2014

If you choose not to pay the extra fee, your site would load at dial up speed , while your competitor who paid the fee would get broadband loading speed. Just one example how this could affect the net.

aggiesal

(8,921 posts)
74. This is what I believe will happen . . .
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:24 PM
Jan 2014

Your ISP is going to raise rates, then their going to tell you that unless you pay the higher rate, your website will run off the slow server (think dialup), and your customers won't be able to load your website as fast, get frustrated look for a company who agreed to pay extra to load their site as fast as possible (broadband), and you lose that customer.

The other result will be that your ISP will be able to control what you see, if it affects their business, like another ISP trying to move into their market, they'll make it impossible for their customers to research the new ISP.

But it will have secondary affects like Cox, TimeWarner, AT&T, Comcast. . . because each have cable TV business, they'll try to limit your access to Netflix, Hulu or any other video entertain service that eats into their profits.

This is a big deal.

CrispyQ

(36,490 posts)
77. Why aren't more businesses speaking out against it?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jan 2014

It sounds like it will benefit the ISPs & those with deep pockets to pay the ISPs.

The little guys get fucked all the time.

aggiesal

(8,921 posts)
82. The lack of empathy in the country amazes me . . .
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jan 2014

Businesses don't know how it will affect them and won't care until it hits their bottom line.

That's why they are not speaking out against it.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
7. But Beavis
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014


Everything DOES suck

Yeah, this country is pretty fucked up right now. I think, however, that my policy henceforth, when people complain about it being fucked up, will be to tell them to shut up and go back to watching Friends on TV.
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
25. That depends on your perspective.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 04:26 PM
Jan 2014

From one side it sucks, from the other, it blows!

Either way, we are screwed!

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
28. Pressure or lack thereof is often a relative matter :)
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jan 2014

However, when you get down to the vaccuum of outer space, which is a pretty hard vacuum, then you have to deal with zero-point energy. That gets in to the energy driving cosmic inflation and it can be said, without any doubt at all, that that truely does blow.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
9. Thank you. Your post has inspired me to...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jan 2014

...turn off this computer and go do something a little more productive than process why everything sucks so badly.

This could be seen as a head-in-the-sand attitude, but in my defense, I did ingest all this bad news before walking away from it (rather than ignoring it all, then walking away from it).

It hasn't been all bad, though. Did you see where Rachel showed that Christie was denying federal Sandy funds to mayors he didn't like, while almost doubling the cost of a commercial - one that was paid for with those same funds - by going with the firm who featured himself and his family in the ads? If you've ever seen Homer Simpson lusting after a doughnut, then you've seen the look on my Christie-loathing face when I learned that.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
12. Well, maybe today is the day the Republican voters will realize...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jan 2014

that the people they vote for over and over again have caused, and will continue to cause 99% of the problems that we all face every day.

Maybe.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
34. Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jan 2014

It's a cult, they're true believers, they cannot be reasoned with, and they wouldn't recognize the truth if it walked up and slapped them in the face.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
13. And in my backyard
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jan 2014

2 cops are acquitted of the beating to death of a mentally ill young man. Yesterday was a horrific day in my backyard.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
53. It's from a thing called "Epic Tea Time with Alan Rickman"
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jan 2014

It was originally an 11-second video slowed down to seven minutes. With the song “Mind Heist” from Inception added...



Created by:
David Michalek

Description:
The film of Alan Rickman is from the project, Portraits in Dramatic Time by David Michalek.

For more information please visit:
http://www.davidmichalek.net/

The project featured an array of glacially paced performances of theater artists and actors all genres and nationalities. With artists featured both singly and in groups, the piece offered a unique and secret glimpse into some of the world's greatest performing artists.


Here's the original normal speed film:

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
54. Poor thing....maybe if the water had been hot
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jan 2014

he wouldn't have had an explosion....

even for Alan Rickman, that's pretty avant garde....

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
17. Hard not to feel helpless rage, I know, but we are making effective inroads.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:30 PM
Jan 2014

Not everywhere, and not as fast as we'd like, but we have to hold on and not let the bastards get us down.

ananda

(28,872 posts)
18. Thank you Will Pitt!
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:33 PM
Jan 2014

This OP expresses my sentiments exactly.

It's wrenchin me in the gut, all this bad news.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
20. Don't leave out the Orange County jury who
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jan 2014

acquitted two cops who beat a mentally ill homeless man to death.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
21. Plus the Kelly Thomas verdict…so very sad...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jan 2014

Raising a preteen with aspects on the autism spectrum and lower cognitive abilities
I fear for him out on the streets when he gets older…but, we can't make him stay within our
home borders forever.

What, every little thing, do we tell him about police officers?



Tikki

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
37. I would . My kids do not have lower cognitive abilities but they know about police and what they can
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 10:59 PM
Jan 2014

do............and to be very careful

They saw them in action @ OWS/nyc so they know we ain't kiddin
.............................

At first, the cops tried to say he was on drugs. But the toxicology reports came back clean. Their other excuses also fall flat. The bottomline is this is the case of a pair of pigs who hassled a homeless man for no reason and then beat him to death in cold blood.

Despicable.

Here are the aforementioned images — click the right arrow to see everything. At the end, we have embedded the video that shows the uncalled for beating:

Read more: http://www.everyjoe.com/2014/01/14/crime/kelly-thomas-death-photos-uncensored-crime-scene-video/#ixzz2qQqkLjPp

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
38. Oh, I know what happened..and it is criminal that they got away with murder.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:15 PM
Jan 2014


We have told our grandson that he can contact us anytime, at school, out at activities, wherever and
we have 5 phone numbers set on a special speed dial to go one number after the other until answered.

But they are told in school that the police are their friends and I am sure most police would want
to help him if he needed help…but not all police are trained or care to understand differences in
behavior that may not be aggressive but doesn't appear typical.

As he gets more freedom in movement we are going to have to add police on the list of things he needs
to learn to be cautious of.


Tikki

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

onenote

(42,727 posts)
23. Two of the three judges in the network neutrality case are Clinton appointees
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jan 2014

Not sure how you can blame the "conservative bent" of that court due to the ostruction of President Obama's nominees. Rogers and Tatel are hardly lapdogs for corporate America. Both have stood up to corporate interests, particularly in cases involving environmental protection issues. Tatel also wrote the opinion affirming the voting rights act in 2008 and Rogers ruled in favor of the rights of a whistle blowing government employee.

The problem with the network neutrality decision wasn't the court that heard it -- it was that the case for the FCC's jurisdiction was always pretty tenuous given its unwillingness to characterize Internet Service as a "Title II" (common carrier) service.

 

legcramp

(288 posts)
30. And the third one was a Reagan appointee. But hush up. the guy is on a roll here.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jan 2014

You know, most of the American population would never have been aware of the London blitz had Edward R. Murrow not done his live from London reports from atop the rooftops as the bombs fell.

"This is London."

Mr. Pitt is becoming the Murrow of our time, just ask him.

JustinBulletin

(73 posts)
31. AMEN, and THANK YOU!
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jan 2014

I always read your posts---you are too good! You express my feelings exactly and I always seem to learn something from your posts. Thanks!

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
32. Stop the country!
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jan 2014

I want OFF.

This ride is just getting too nuts for me.

Let every insecure gunloon out there pack his gun at all times because the poor things feel naked without them, what could possibly go wrong?

Four cops repeatedly taze and beat a mentally ill man to death but it was justified because he sassed them and resisted the beating. Poor guys, they've got such a tough job to do, boys will be boys, jury acquits.

Face it, this land wasn't made for you and me. This land was made for crazy people and they've completely taken over.

NMDemDist2

(49,313 posts)
36. don't forget another school shooting today
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 10:13 PM
Jan 2014

less than 100 miles from my house too

http://abcnews.go.com/US/student-shotgun-shoot-students-roswell-mexico/story?id=21526542

A middle school student opened fire in his gym with a shotgun today and critically wounded two students in Roswell, N.M., according to authorities.

The injured were a 13-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy who were "simply sitting in their gym waiting to go to class," New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez said. The shooting occurred shortly before class was to begin at Berrendo Middle School.

The Eastern New Mexico Medical Center confirmed it treated two patients, who were then air lifted to the University Medical Center in Lubbock, Texas, located about 175 miles from the middle school.

A spokesperson for UMC said the boy, who the governor said was 12, is out of surgery and is listed in critical condition. The girl, 13, is also being treated at the hospital and is listed in serious condition, according to the spokesperson. A school staff member suffered a minor injury and declined treatment.

The names of the shooting victims have not been released.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
39. on the plus side -- Oklahoma's gay marriage ban ruled unconstitutional
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jan 2014

I've been too busy to follow most of the news today, and once I finally got the baby to sleep and had the chance to check things out, this is the first item I saw in the news feed. Gave me a rather different impression of the day

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/oklahoma-gay-marriage/

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
41. I'm going to go repeatedly smash my head between two cinder blocks
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:20 PM
Jan 2014

In the faint hope that the trauma will cause the neurons which formed these recent memories to malfunction and die.

Mopar151

(9,992 posts)
44. Don't do it, dude!
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:47 PM
Jan 2014

You could lose that really nice day from last fall, a little girl's birthday, or just a rainy afternoon chillin' with the dog.

What you NEVER lose - the memories of dental extraction, flashbacks to your former employer's imbecilic relatives, or a permanent brainworm of Discount Bob's commercials.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
58. Yeah, it's funny...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:26 AM
Jan 2014

Everyone talks about Cobain, but that had zero effect on me. But with Yauch, the world stopped there a bit for me, and didn't start back up quite right. Beasties were my metric for "cool" for as long as I can remember, and Yauch in particular such an influence on how to live a life worth something.

Definitely felt like my youth went with him. Oh well, I guess it was time to let it go, lol.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
46. Bad things happen every day, Will.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jan 2014

So do good things.

Few things are as black and white as they seem.

I'm thankful for my time here nonetheless, as perhaps you should be.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
60. And I was going to complain......
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:18 AM
Jan 2014

Because our power was out and it's 14 below zero. Jeez, what a country. Thanks for helping me keep perspective.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
70. I still try to Feel Good despite it being quixotic at this point .....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jan 2014

Although if power, excess and living in ivory towers makes one feel good it won't be long before they find themselves prisoners of the doom too
Those who think $$ or power. or a badge will save them are just in a delay mode imo



Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
65. WilliamPitt, these fucks...................
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:11 AM
Jan 2014

These fucks are the most dangerous enemy this nation has even faced. I mean that most seriously.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
72. ..and in the future the word "fuck" will get your post hidden.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:05 PM
Jan 2014

The war on Democracy is ongoing in our country. The left seems to be the only ones who really care ...but (TPTB) Hillary is inevitable.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
76. We ARE in the corp. state. The debate is when the police state arrives.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jan 2014

Are the bastards competent and gutsy enough to effect the next step. Curiously, with power so completely in the hands of the CS, it will HAVE to carry out the next step. Plan accordingly.

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
81. Fuck!!!!!! I hope not!!!!!!
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jan 2014

This is how I feel after watching just about any show on FOXNEWS !!!!!!!
I like that bug thing you have at the bottom of your post....I still end up trying to wipe it off the screen!!!!

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
73. Yeah...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:06 PM
Jan 2014

I don't know about you, Will, but I'm running out of ideas - and hope. A lot of it is the result of the political situation - but poverty really, desperately sucks.... and I expect that it will continue to get worse for a whole lot of us. Especially in states that managed to elect republican governors.

Wish I could do something to change this political situation - but all I can do is vote, and occasionally write about it. It's not enough to really make the difference we all need, but I'm just barely getting by myself... have to keep my mind on what pathetic little money I have, until there is none left.

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