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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:01 PM Jan 2014

Rand Paul discusses cutting government help for unwed mothers who continue having kids

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul discussed the possibility of cutting government benefits for unwed mothers who have multiple children during a Lexington luncheon Thursday, though the potential Republican candidate for president in 2016 didn't directly endorse such a policy.

During a question-and-answer period following his remarks at a Commerce Lexington luncheon, Paul responded to a question about workforce development by including a warning about unwed young mothers doomed to poverty.

.......

"Maybe we have to say 'enough's enough, you shouldn't be having kids after a certain amount,'" Paul told the business group at one point. "I don't know how you do all that because then it's tough to tell a woman with four kids that she's got a fifth kid we're not going to give her anymore money."

Paul told the audience that being "married with kids versus unmarried with kids is the difference between living in poverty and not."

"We should sell that message," Paul said. "Not in a mean way to tell people who already have made a bad decision, but if you've had one child and you're not married, you shouldn't have another one."

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/01/24/3050274/rand-paul-discusses-cutting-government.html

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Rand Paul discusses cutting government help for unwed mothers who continue having kids (Original Post) Redfairen Jan 2014 OP
What a shit bag Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #1
It's apparently all on the women according to him warrant46 Jan 2014 #17
oh... But he does not want to say it to women in a mean way... Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #19
+1 warrant46 Jan 2014 #21
A marriage certificate is not a magic piece of paper. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2014 #2
How come no cutting of benefits for unwed fathers, Mr. Jerk? blogslut Jan 2014 #3
These bunch of dumba$$es just dont get it. They haven't figured out it is much cheaper to provide Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #4
Bingo get the red out Jan 2014 #27
Yes Rand you are correct ... there are no married couples ... etherealtruth Jan 2014 #5
I was under the impression that already happened with Clinton's welfare "reform" dflprincess Jan 2014 #6
I thought it was a woman's duty to have as many children as possible? kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #7
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #8
Got anything besides right-wing talking points? Archae Jan 2014 #10
Got a quick boot. uppityperson Jan 2014 #11
First Rand Paul... Archae Jan 2014 #9
MEAN ass asshole. "not in a mean way".. Cha Jan 2014 #12
how about cutting money for those who keep having senseless wars? Skittles Jan 2014 #13
Well he is anti-choice... Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #14
Aborton for poor women malletgirl02 Jan 2014 #15
No doubt. Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #20
The Libertarian party, small govt. except when it comes to women's rights... Barack_America Jan 2014 #16
That's actually a hotly debated topic at the Libertarian Party. Official platform is no restrictions stevenleser Jan 2014 #25
Yeah, cuz THEIR the source of America's economic woes! FourScore Jan 2014 #18
Why the heck does he keep endorsing betterdemsonly Jan 2014 #22
The logic part of Rand Paul's brain appears to be defective. MineralMan Jan 2014 #23
#StandWithRand SidDithers Jan 2014 #24
well, after rand & co take away their contraceptives, they'll have to find another way to punish.... spanone Jan 2014 #26

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
17. It's apparently all on the women according to him
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:29 AM
Jan 2014

He should tell the males to keep Mr. Winkie in their pants

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
2. A marriage certificate is not a magic piece of paper.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:07 PM
Jan 2014

He can go to hell, cold, cruel and heartless bastard.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. These bunch of dumba$$es just dont get it. They haven't figured out it is much cheaper to provide
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:09 PM
Jan 2014

Birth control than support a child to adulthood. They need to get in a room somewhere and figure
providing birth control is cheaper. I have been a Democrat all of my life and thought there was some intelligence in the GOP but since the TP and fundies have arrived there is always some fighting to be dumber than the last one.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
5. Yes Rand you are correct ... there are no married couples ...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:12 PM
Jan 2014

... with children living in poverty.

We could take the foolish step of paying a living wage to workers .... but then you are against minimum wages, as well.

dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
6. I was under the impression that already happened with Clinton's welfare "reform"
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jan 2014

TANF replaced AFDC and has a 60 month life time limit and the family's benefit does not increase if another child is born.

Though, given what I read in the Star Tribune comments section whenever the topic any kind of welfare (except corporate) comes up conservatives aren't aware that the rules changed years ago.


 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. I thought it was a woman's duty to have as many children as possible?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:32 PM
Jan 2014

And to stay in the home caring for them? And not working at all outside the home or getting any formal education?

These fundie whackjobs need to make up their effing minds.

Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #7)

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
14. Well he is anti-choice...
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 07:50 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:37 PM - Edit history (1)

And this is brought to you by the same party that hates birth control!

On edit: It just occurred to me that Rand basically told women to marry men for their money. Funny, since its also usually the randian, tea partying, conservative men who tend to be the ones that say women only marry up and they only marry for the money.

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
15. Aborton for poor women
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:09 AM
Jan 2014

To add to your point it is very hard for a women in poverty to get an abortion even in states that don't have stringent abortion laws.

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
20. No doubt.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:01 PM
Jan 2014

And, of course the more children a woman has, the more likely she is to be poor. And the more impoverished she is, the less access she has to birth control and the less birth control she can get, the more likely she is to need an abortion or have extra, unplanned, and possibly unwanted children in her future. All this leads to only one place: more children on welfare and cutting aid to poor mothers and their kids will only make things worse. More children (and their mothers) will go hungry, go without medical care (which will lead to even more unplanned babies), and become homeless. Kicking unwed mothers while they're already done is just stupid, short-sighted, and yes Rand, mean as hell.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
16. The Libertarian party, small govt. except when it comes to women's rights...
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jan 2014

When it comes to women, complete control is paramount, at any cost to liberty and wallet.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
25. That's actually a hotly debated topic at the Libertarian Party. Official platform is no restrictions
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jan 2014

on a woman's right to an abortion or family planning.

http://www.lp.org/platform

1.4 Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.
 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
22. Why the heck does he keep endorsing
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jan 2014

antibirthcontrol shitbags like Ken Cuccinelli and Greg Brannon, if he feels this way?

spanone

(135,866 posts)
26. well, after rand & co take away their contraceptives, they'll have to find another way to punish....
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:56 PM
Jan 2014

them

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