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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe entirety of what Obama actually said after the applause for Cory:
(Extended cheers and applause.)
My fellow Americans -- my fellow Americans, men and women like Cory remind us that America has never come easy. Our freedom, our democracy, has never been easy. Sometimes we stumble; we make mistakes; we get frustrated or discouraged.
But for more than two hundred years, we have put those things aside and placed our collective shoulder to the wheel of progress: to create and build and expand the possibilities of individual achievement; to free other nations from tyranny and fear; to promote justice and fairness and equality under the law, so that the words set to paper by our founders are made real for every citizen.
The America we want for our kids -- a rising America where honest work is plentiful and communities are strong; where prosperity is widely shared and opportunity for all lets us go as far as our dreams and toil will take us -- none of it is easy. But if we work together; if we summon what is best in us, the way Cory summoned what is best in him, with our feet planted firmly in today but our eyes cast towards tomorrow, I know it's within our reach.
Believe it.
God bless you, and God bless the United States of America. (Cheers, applause.)
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)JI7
(89,262 posts)in this country and compares himself to jews under Hitler .
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Cha
(297,528 posts)"President and Soldier: 3 Meetings, and a Lesson in Resilience"
"WASHINGTON Three times, mainly by chance and in very different circumstances, Sgt. First Class Cory Remsburg has met President Obama..
Meeting No. 1 Normandy, France, was the site of the first interaction between Mr. Obama and Sergeant Remsburg, where they commemorated the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landing on June 6, 2009.
They were introduced near Omaha Beach in France in 2009, when Sergeant Remsburg was part of a select Army Ranger group chosen to re-enact a parachute drop for celebrations of the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landings in World War II. The second meeting came less than a year later at a military hospital outside Washington, where Mr. Obama was stunned to see among the wounded troops from Afghanistan a familiar young man now brain-damaged, a track of fresh stitches across his skull, and partly paralyzed.
The third time was two weeks ago in a private visit in Phoenix, where Sergeant Remsburg did something that neither Mr. Obama nor military doctors would once have predicted: he stood up and saluted his commander in chief."
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"Former President George W. Bush and other commanders in chief paid many visits to the wounded, but Mr. Obamas intersections with one warriors life-altering path are unusual. Aides could not name any other wounded service member whom Mr. Obama has met three times, nor any other who first stood before the commander in chief in battle-ready prime.
For Sergeant Remsburg, the meetings have been very humbling, he said in a phone interview last weekend. For Mr. Obama, the soldier has come to personify the challenges endured by more than 50,000 men and women wounded in the two wars of the last decade, many facing recoveries that will last a lifetime, as the president recently said."
the rest..
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/us/politics/obama-and-a-soldier-3-meetings-and-a-lesson-in-resilience.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0
Heather Mac http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024405329
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Thanks Cha!
Cha
(297,528 posts)reality beat all, VR?
longship
(40,416 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)despise govt in general...all govt..regardless.
Cha
(297,528 posts)when they start out the article with "President".. like this one..
"WASHINGTON Three times, mainly by chance and in very different circumstances, Sgt. First Class Cory Remsburg has met President Obama.." Then the article continues with "Mr" being used.
Course, that's all I have to go on. I read it on DU!
longship
(40,416 posts)My bad. I knew about that protocol. I should have looked before I leaped.
It's late and I have unfortunately been following the SOTU drinking game rules. (Not sure which ones at this point)
As always.
Cha
(297,528 posts)"... been following the SOTU drinking game rules. (Not sure which ones at this point" " Salud!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)That has been the predominant media style rule for many decades. Use the President's title on first reference; "Mr." is permissible in subsequent references.
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)How Should the Media Refer to The Current President?
In the media the journalists are referring to The President in the third person in a story ... so they will refer to him in various ways so who they are talking about is clear to the listener. You'll hear:
Barack Obama
President Obama
Obama
Mr. Obama
These are not forms of address ... for which there are rules. In direct address a president is addressed as
Mr. President
His given name or surname is not used in his presence
Listen to a White House news conference, and all the reporters address him as Mr. President.
White House staff refer to him as The President ... which makes sense since he is the only President to them! But on the evening news they may refer to several presidents ... the president of the United States ... the president of British Petroleum ... the president of a national association.
Sometimes you hear someone directly address the President of the United States as President Obama ... but that person is incorrect .... doesn't know the tradition ... and has probably just been listening to the evening news and thinks that is correct.
Whenever I hear that I write a note to the reporter. Not sure it does any good, but I feel better.
-- Robert Hickey
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)I hadn't seen that.
Cha
(297,528 posts)you.
SunSeeker
(51,659 posts)So many folks here missed the point. It wasn't to glorify war, but just the opposite. It was to honor resilience and spotlight the terrible cost of war.
Cha
(297,528 posts)So, if want to go kick her thread now? I just gave it another kick..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024405329#top
It's ridiculous the way lies travel all the way around here and the facts are ignored by so many.
SunSeeker
(51,659 posts)Cha
(297,528 posts)point, Sun. I'll see what's happening tomorrow on this Poignant story that got ravaged by bullshit on DU.
Skittles
(153,180 posts)freedom, democracy? Isn't that what Dubya said?
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)I am against the wars.
Skittles
(153,180 posts)I have sent care packages or letters monthly since 2005 but I really, REALLY would like to know why the hell we are still in Afghanistan, WHY we are still sending troops to be injured and killed for no reason, WHY we are wasting all that money - why wouldn't that be addressed in the SOTU? WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER A DECADE.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)for political purposes when he said during the first campaign
that he was going to press the war in Afghanistan. Like you
I believe it is a hideous evil waste of life and limb and everything
else to stay in Afghanistan.
Skittles
(153,180 posts)you do get it
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)the man was said to love the military...which he has every right to continue to feel. You would rather piss on his day for a chance to attack Obama...completely missing the point in the process...
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)fire commencing!
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Skittles
(153,180 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)you so so badly wanted to see your "narrative" so....that's what YOU saw...regardless that very very very damn few agree with you.
Skittles
(153,180 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Lars39
(26,110 posts)can actually be deployed over 2 or 3 times, let alone 10 times.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:59 PM - Edit history (1)
He went voluntarily.
Lars39
(26,110 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)The last time was a "special request" and he couldn't talk about it. He was one of those guys who was in Falusha (sp) wrapped in a head piece and garb ...before we went into Falusha "popping pumpkins" on rooftops... they are more at home away from home. I'm not saying I agree with the concept but it's what they do. It's their legal heroin.
RandiFan1290
(6,239 posts)Can't expect China to use their $$ and troops to protect them.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)There always seem to be some unnoticed lines that have a lot of meaning. He talked about privilege and mutual responsibility (citizenship) in ways I haven't heard often. Sort of like he was telling Reaganites what they're missing.
"Here in America our success should depend not on an accident of birth, but on the strength of our work ethic and the scope of our dreams."
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and wherever else we are droning innocent men, women and children.
When will we hear the truth. 'Our Freedoms' reminds me of Bush/Cheney.
Nor was Vietnam, forgot to add that tragic lie to the rest of the lies about war we are told.
So, what does 'American doesn't come easy mean'? That we have to keep on invading oil rich countries like Iraq and strategically situated to the oil fields, like Afghanistan etc?
Maybe if you just put all our resources into alternative energy we wouldn't need to control the world's oil supply so that Oil Cartels can become richer and richer.