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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsInept DNC throws away unspecified $$$ producing superfluous anti-Christie ad
Although it's abundantly clear that Chris Christie's political future is toast, the DNC, run by Debbie Wasserman Schultz, decided to use its rank-and-file-donated dollars to produce an anti-Chris Christie online ad, to be "geo-targeted" in the NY/NJ metropolitan area on Superbowl Sunday.
How much is this ad going to cost? The DNC won't say.
Remember - when you give to the DNC, you are merely giving it to an organization run by Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Consider donating to ActBlue or Moveon.org instead.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Good money donated by hard-working rank-and-file Democrats, which could be much more efficiently used to highlight, say, Scott Walker's corruption.
How come?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)ad.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)this is a very, very concerning issue
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)I can't wait to see it although I am more than 20 miles from NJ.
I completely disagree with your suggestion to de-fund the Democratic Party.
jftr - President Obama heads the DNC. Debbie and the apparatus of the Democratic party work at his direction.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)That made me smile.
I am so glad Wolfie heaved up some very useful footage.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)when money is donated to ActBlue, an organization which then directly donates funds to Democratic politicians' campaigns.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Go DNC.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)to endorse the organization...
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)no reason to back Buono, Christie being so rightfully popular with everyone and I was specifically told that it would be a waste of money to so much as try to win the election. Now they spend? But not then? 'We have limited funds' said the millionaires 'and we will not waste it trying to unseat a widely popular official'.
I'd rather have seen some fight for the office itself.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"My issue with this is that prior to the election, DNC and the 'deep pockets' said there was"
...not true.
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Barbara Buono will Move All New Jersey Families Forward
http://www.democrats.org/news/press/dnc_chair_debbie_wasserman_schultz_barbara_buono_will_move_all_new_jersey_f
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultzs Statement on New Jersey Gubernatorial Debate
http://www.democrats.org/news/press/dnc_chair_debbie_wasserman_schultzs_statement_on_new_jersey_gubernatorial_d
Campaign event with DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz
https://www.facebook.com/events/251952461618412/?source=1
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz To Christie: 'Time's Up, Guv'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024298306
On edit: The problem was the corrupt state Dems. The blessing of NJ media didn't help.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)And more than one major donor lectured me about how great Chris is and how terrible Buono is and how limited their fortunes really are and how they refused to spend a dime against Christie.
A bit of poking might have found the scandals prior to election day. But it was 'not worth it, she can't win, we have to focus on the possible, be pragmatic, Christie is pretty moderate after all....'
ProSense
(116,464 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)And appeared at the Buono campaign stop in North Brunswick.
At least that was more effort than what Obama provided:
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/11/obamas_last_minute_effort_for_buono_too_little_too_late_democrats_say.html
Obama's last minute effort for Buono leaves some Democrats cold
By Darryl Isherwood/NJ.com
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on November 02, 2013 at 12:15 AM, updated November 02, 2013 at 2:25 AM
President Barack Obama this afternoon blasted out an email exhorting Democrats to "go out there and win an election." The email included praise for Democrat Barbara Buono, who faces an uphill challenge against Republican Gov. Chris Christie Tuesday.
snip
But the email has some Democrats boiling as Obama did virtually nothing for Buono throughout the election season. In fact, Obama did more for Christie's reelection bid than he did for Buono's underdog candidacy.
"And hey, thanks for coming to Asbury Park in May," wrote Blue Jersey Editor Rosi Efthim. "So cool of you. But it was kind of icky that with all the time you spent buddied up with Gov. Christie, you passed right by Senator Buono, top of our ticket in the party you lead. Didn't single her out, talk to her, even throw a word of cheer."
In May, the president visited the state to check on the rebuilding effort after Superstorm Sandy. During the visit, the president cavorted with Christie, playing boardwalk games with him and calling the Republican "Chris." (But) During his 10-minute speech in Asbury Park, Obama recognized Democratic Congressmen Rush Holt, Frank Pallone and Donald Payne Jr., but ignored Buono who was relegated to a seat behind the president, while Republican state Sen. Joe Kyrillos sat on stage.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)And appeared at the Buono campaign stop in North Brunswick.
At least that was more effort than what Obama provided:
Obama sucks!
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)any money spent is wasted. Also, Christie is less of a threat because he's somewhat kept in check by a Democratic led state house. Look at how close the Virginia elections were. From Gov, Lt Gov, AG. Not only is there a state house that wanted to change their electoral voting allocation to favor the Republicans, you have a purple state that is absolutely crucial for 2016 and other campaigns. Having a strong Democratic governor there goes far. Not to mention an AG that will help investigate the former administration and stop defending all of the crazy unconstitutional laws being passed by the gop state house. So here's the question. There is a finite amount of dollars. Would it have been worth losing any of those seats in Virginia to help Buono lose by less?
Also, Christie was popular. Mainly because people didn't know his true nature. Why spend money to attack someone who is popular? It doesn't make sense politically. A big chunk of the people Christie was unpopular with were the Republicans that thought he never should have been nice to Obama. If Obama came and campaigned against him, it may have helped him with the uber right wing base. I think the Democrats had some stuff on Christie anyway. From the bogus Menendez investigations, to the same stuff the Romney campaign found when it vetted him, I have always thought that the DNC hoped Christie was the GOP candidate because they had plenty on him for an October surprise. You can't ask for more than that.
Politics is about winning, not doing what's right by each candidate. If the next election is winnable by Buono you'll see a different support mechanism. It won't be because the DNC has "come around" or is being more democratic, it's because it's a fight they can win. Period.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)he is down, which may start the conversation of impeaching the belligerent fucker. Think of it as the same reason that many of those who had not spoken before the election, finally came out after it was revealed what was going on. The "bully" finally gets called out, and it turns out there are a lot of nefarious things going on in New Jersey.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Tarheel_Dem: "Occupy are not activists, but sham artists."
Tarheel_Dem: Labels JD Priestly, an old school, lifelong Democrat, well-respected DUer who goes as far back as campaigning for Adlai Stevenson, a "Naderite", and says to him: "glad you're in CA where you can't do much damage."
Why am I linking to those posts of yours? No reason, carry on.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)TheMathieu
(456 posts)about the DNC not doing enough against Christie. Buono included.
Now people are upset they're doing too much?
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Let me ask you some questions:
Would you pay to have this years' tax return done after you just got your tax refund?
Would you go see a doctor about your cough after it went away?
Would you bring your computer to a computer repair place after you just fixed it yourself?
And would you air a campaign ad right after the election is over?
So then why would you throw a bunch of money away attacking Christie when he's already going down?!!!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)To make sure he, his inner circle, & all who publicly support him STAY "down", and can never get up! Christie's not just the governor of NJ. He's the head of the REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION. I would've thought that would be apparent to even you.
Gothmog
(145,487 posts)It is important to do as much damage to Christie now as possible. There has been no direct links to Christie's involvement and Christie does not send e-mails and so there may be no paper trail. Right now, Christie is spinning this as he had no knowledge of the lane closures prior to the closures. That is a low bar that Christie could meet given his practice of never sending e-mails