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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsmention you think Amanda Knox is innocent and flying monkeys descend almost immediately
Twitter, facebook, online article comments - I've never seen anything like it. The case aside, it's almost like there's a headquarters somewhere staffed with people using NSA-like techniques to spread their talking points.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)What really seems to attract ire is questioning her innocence.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)somewhere in the Pacific northwest who translates Pig Latin professionally yet still has time to obsess about Amanda 24/7.
mainer
(12,023 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I don't know much about the case, and I'm disinclined to speculate, except to say that a) young white women do bad shit too and b) I tend to give juries some benefit of the doubt.
Like other cases, there's an element of chivalry at work in this issue that I really dislike.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)... Until I read about the investigation and trial(s). What a fucking circus. I don't know that she's innocent, but I do know she didn't get a fair trial.
Squinch
(50,992 posts)generally minding her own business as an "evil jezebel," and then punish her for their perception of her.
This obsession with their label of her as a "sex fiend" is as old as the hills. Think witch trials.
Gman
(24,780 posts)I don't really know one way or the other. But just sayin'.
Squinch
(50,992 posts)insisting that she is guilty.
hlthe2b
(102,342 posts)While I can not say with 100% assuredness that she is innocent, I surely do not believe she was convicted with evidence surpassing "reasonable doubt" and I would surely join those who think Italy's evidential standards in this case simply suck.
It seems now to be an exercise in "saving face"... I don't know how she'll escape US extradition to Italy, though, from what I've read--unless Italy somehow backs down.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)The law and the available evidence rarely have much to do with their beliefs concerning guilt or innocence, but for some reason a lot of people become emotionally attached to such beliefs and attack those who disagree. DUers are no exception here. For example, anyone who thought the evidence in the Zimmerman trial didn't support a guilty verdict was vilified.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)There are some similarities between the two cases:
-Prejudice against the defendants -believing the original claims concerning the cases even well past the point where they are proven to be bogus -heavy creative speculation to explain away the problems of the weak cases
At least in the US the defendant was acquitted, as he should have been.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)in the minds of many DUers. But I agree, the "creative speculation" that was used to make the facts conform to the early media narrative was quite remarkable. (I don't know whether Zimmerman is guilty of murder because I wasn't there, but I do think that the suggestion that he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is simply mistaken.)
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Some of the hate you read on this when you read it you sense some deeper issues going on. They either think she's guilty because she's a woman or she's not guilty because she's a woman. The European media also likes to focus on her sexual history.
Some non-Americans also want to punish her for being American. They view this case as another example of a young American going overseas and behaving badly and then escaping justice. And then they let that override the facts of the case.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)"Some non-Americans also want to punish her for being American"
Probably true, for some value of "some", I think there are rather more Americans who are assuming she is innocent because she is American.