Getting Guys & God out of the crotches of womankind

[SoCalDem]

Number ONE of the list of "things for women to do", should be this one thing.

#1. Get men (especially Godly-men) out of the reproduction-regulation business.

For a very long time, people were enraged at how the Chinese government stepped into birth regulation with their one-child policy, and at the callous way they overstepped moral boundaries by forcing abortions/abandonment of so many children. What our very own zealots are doing (trying to do) is not all that much different. They do it with the same vigor and determination, and they do it by poking around in the female reproduction organs of every female in America.

Birth control, pregnancy, pregnancy termination, sterilization, family size and all other strictly "womanly" things should be left to :
1) the woman
2) the woman and her doctor
3) the woman and her significant other
4) see 1,2,3 above

People who should NEVER be "in the driver's seat":

Her congressperson
Her senator
The Supreme Court (or any other court)
Her Boss
Random sign-carrying zealots who want to "change her mind"
Her local newspaper


Medical procedures that are safe and legal, as well as medications that are safe and legal, should be available (and affordable) to any and all who want them.

Once declared "safe and legal", they should remain so UNTIL proof-positive that they are no longer safe. Their legality should NOT be subject the the whims and vicissitudes of political zealots who crop up from time to time.

TOO MUCH TIME is wasted throughout our history as the same things get re-legislated over and over. Imagine if every few years prohibition was put forth to re-legislate. (or any other long-ago legislation).

Religion seems to be an important part of many people's lives, and it should be their OWN business. If their religion says they should be fruitful to the nth degree (see the Duggar Family), then that should be their own personal choice, and no one else's place to regulate.

Likewise, if a Catholic woman (according to statistics, 99% of them ) wants to use birth control, it should not be the business of our legislature to "protect her soul". That should be between her and her own god...not our national government.

Here's hoping that more women get elected this time around, and they can get back to doing important things in congress...like:

jobs
upside down home loans
college debt
getting hungry people fed
getting homeless people housed
income inequity
ending that idiotic war
stabilizing the energy needs v cost for the nation
learning to ignore Iran a little more
resisting the urge to join in fights that do not concern us

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Well put!

[EFerrari]

2. Did you see this last night?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002443894

Knit a Uterus to Donate to a Congressman in Need



http://jezebel.com/5894402/knit-a-uterus-to-donate-to-a-congressman-in-need

I may have to sit here and do this today.

[SoCalDem]

3. Cute..in a reindeer-ish way

[Rex]

11. HA! Wonderful!!

Then maybe they can stay the FUCK out of the real thing with their fascist ideas.

[KG]

4. rec.

[yellerpup]

5. I like your "New Rules"

MYOB should be the norm and not the exception.

[SoCalDem]

8. another issue..another day.. I don't recall addressing it in any format

start a thread & you'll have many responders, no doubt

[closeupready]

9. Sorry, didn't mean to hijack - I'll delete.

[SoCalDem]

10. No need to delete..

[abelenkpe]

7. +1000 nt :)

[Rex]

12. K&R

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[kctim]

13. People will NEVER be

"out of the reproduction-regulation business" as long as they are expected to help pay for it.

[haele]

15. Then they should be pushing BCP's like candy - pregnancies are expensive.

Oh - fair warning -
If it's just about "reproduction regulation business" and money....
Pregnancies cost insurance companies a hell of a lot more money, "force" employers and taxpayers to provide maternity leave, add to taxpayer-subsidized "welfare" and supplimental programs as poor families increase and are less able to provide for their children.

If it was a matter of worrying about "who's gonna pay for it?" it would make more sense to require registration and a guarentee of the ability to provide a stable home and financially afford a pregnancy and raising children before allowing a woman to get pregnant so that she and her children are not a liability to the average taxpayer or employer - just providing contraception is so much cheaper in the long run to society in general than a struggling family requiring tax subisdies and community support.

Methinks too many in the right-wing and the cervix sniffers haven't figured out that pregnancy in iteslf is not a singular event that ends when the baby is born. It's not an assembly line to the showroom effort, with a net profit or loss margin that can be put on a quarterly spreadsheet.
It's a long term, lifetime event, and the responsibility it brings, and effect it has on society, does not ever really end - the pregnancy of a great-great-great grandmother has affected world events - for good or ill - in one way or another, no matter who you are or who's grandmother she was.

Haele

[SemperEadem]

14. here's hoping that more PROGRESSIVE women get elected

there are way too many of the bad sort who are making this problem worse.

Viz: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/17/1065925/-NH-legislator-suggests-married-couples-practice-abstinence

[Tumbulu]

16. excellent (nt)

[nolabear]

17. Do y'all know where the term "old wives' tale" came from?

Well gather 'round, little DUers and Auntie nolabear will tell you. Waaaaaaaaay back in the day when women had babies at home with the help of midwives...or "old wives" as they were called, the menfolk began to realize that, going from house to house during times of high stress and emotional disarray, as babies' births were wont to be, those women were likely to get a pretty good idea what kinds of things went on in the households. Women would tell them their troubles while in labor, children would reveal things, women would die from having had babies they couldn't bear or from uteri that were worn out, and sometimes women would let the old wives know that they would do anything not to have to go through this again. That kind of knowledge, of being able to rat out the cheaters and beaters and neglecters and rejecters gave them a lot of power.

This did not sit well with the menfolk, and admittedly some of the womenfolk as well, so it became popular to sow seeds of distrust around the old wives, first convincing as many people as possible tht old wives told stories that had no truth to them, that they were untrustworthy, and that it might not be such a good idea to have them be in charge of birthing babies when doctors...exclusively male doctors...clearly had a better understanding of how to handle matters that were far beyond the capacity of simple women.

And of course there was that whole "burn her as a witch" thing but that's a story for another time.

Women have power. We can't keep letting others (women and men who don't believe in us) take it away.

[Initech]

18. What pisses me off above anything is the whole "Holier Than Thou" aspect of it.

If they'd stop making every fucking issue about their warped version of religion we might start making some progress. It's way past time to begin making religious institutions pay taxes - I'm starting to think it's the only way they'll get the fuck out of politics. We may as well elect the Taliban at this point if we keep electing these fucking insane religious zealots to office.