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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Mistake! NJ's Largest Newspaper....
calls their endorsement of Christie a mistake! (Oh, they just noticed?) A bitter pill for those of us who supported Buono. They also go on after criticizing Christie to justify their endorsement by citing some of his accomplishments and calling Buono "not up to the job". The portion that goes after Christie is fun to read however.
Not quite. An endorsement is not a love embrace. It is a choice between two flawed human beings. And the winner is often the less bad option.
But yes, we blew this one. When the endorsement ran, I could not get a cup of coffee in the Peoples Republic of Montclair without my liberal friends taunting me. Back then, I pushed back.
Yes, we knew Christie was a bully. But we didnt know his crew was crazy enough to put peoples lives at risk in Fort Lee as a means to pressure the mayor. We didnt know he would use Hurricane Sandy aid as a political slush fund. And we certainly didnt know that Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer was sitting on a credible charge of extortion by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno.
Even before this scandal train got rolling, this endorsement was a close call and a split vote among the editorial board. We regard Christie as the most overrated politician in the country, at least until now, a man who is better at talking than governing. We criticized him for trashing the working poor, for his tea party approach to the environment, for his opposition to gay marriage and a livable minimum wage. And so on.
Forgot the link: http://blog.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2014/02/chris_christie_endorsement_is.html#incart_m-rpt-1
ProSense
(116,464 posts)...ouch!
MADem
(135,425 posts)Someone should have yelled at him "Get a brain, MORAN!" before the paper made that ill-advised appointment...!
Maybe sent him the tee shirt to go with the poster...?
Berlum
(7,044 posts)factsarenotfair
(910 posts)What???
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)tblue37
(65,417 posts)Phentex
(16,334 posts)What an odd thing to admit. They are idiots.
QuestForSense
(653 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Apt title.
mucifer
(23,554 posts)in the country. But we endorsed him anyway.
Wow they are acknowledging they are as messed up as christie.
Our lovely 4th estate. They wanted to be on the bandwagon.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Stuart G
(38,436 posts)It is only a matter of time.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And then they stepped in it anyway.
Says a lot about them, not much of it good.
maindawg
(1,151 posts)Do they understand what their job is?
The truth is this....Newspapers are dying. the only people who still buy the paper are the geriatrics who have done so all their lives. They are buying the editorial page that caters to their old school beliefs. Any paper you pick up is infested with conservative columns attacking the president. Attacking the poor. Echoing the Reagon philosophy.
So they stopped doing their job a long time ago and now their job is to keep those few old timers as customers. Its a vicious cycle that will contribute to their own demise.
Had they stuck to their original manifest they may have had a chance in the long run, to evolve. They will die with their customer base.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Even the more liberal and fact based Bergen Record endorsed Christie (and they broke the scandal).
And here at DU people were just loving him. Post after nauseating post about what a good guy he was.
I have always despised him and I have spent the past four years arguing with Democrats who "just like his style".
Christie is a big, crass oaf. He has been acting like a bore, using tax dollars to hurt the very people who paid them and making REALLY STUPID decisions for the state since the day he took office.
People are easily led.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)we live in a reality TV culture that is about as far from reality as you can get. Christie was/is the reality TV candidate/politician.
12AngryBorneoWildmen
(536 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)justabob
(3,069 posts)Around here people were swooning and hoping for him to become a democrat after he met and toured around with Obama and made a few not bat shit crazy statements. It was extraordinary.... like one day and 100 words could magic Christie into being a decent human that one wants to associate with. Easily led indeed.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)The language in his mea culpa marginalizes an honest journalist, Rachel Madow, calling her a liberal TV hero. He also refers to the citizens of Montclair as communists. Montclair votes 90% Democratic.
Send letters to Newhouse Publications demanding Moran be relegated to proof reading the Sunday comics.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)when papers make this bad of a judgement they should get their asses sued!
TheMathieu
(456 posts)And now they're making a killing reporting on his downfall.
ffr
(22,671 posts)Much the same way the media does everything possible to make every political race close, when it really isn't. For them, it keeps both 48% R/D political viewers watching, waiting.
marble falls
(57,114 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)Simply for the fact your fallback is that your choice was between two flawed human beings and you chose the less bad option.
If that's your best effort to select a candidate, then switch your selection after choosing the less bad option!!! Because it is people like you who are always making the wrong choice. We heard the same thing back in 2000, when it was a choice between Gore and Bush. We've had enough already of your stupidity! And we're left straddled with another mistake that it'll take us years to recover from.
elleng
(130,980 posts)that virtually ignored Buono.
malaise
(269,067 posts)That nasty vindictive ReTHUG scumbag should never have been allowed near a government office after what he did with those lying ads in 1994.
Thank Bushco and their goons
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)And we certainly didnt know that Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer was sitting on a credible charge of extortion by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno.
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while they did not know about zimmer's claims ,there were a couple of others claims out there that never got investigated,,,weren't there?
like Christy getting that sheriff off the hook
Laxman
(2,419 posts)was a lame attempt at demonstrating they were open-minded. It was apparent Buono was going down. They probably saw the endorsement as inconsequential. They certainly knew something was brewing with the GWB. They knew about Todd Christie and Ashcroft. They knew about his days as a freeholder. They saw his heavy-handed approach to the Highlands Council and certainly had to have heard the rumors that commissioners were strong-armed for votes. It was just a failure of moral courage.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Criticized him? Ouchie!
For taking anti-human, bigoted, ignorant, anti-environment, anti-human rights and worker rights and then going after the Commons, the social safety net and all of that?
They wait until after Christie's wrecking crew takes the Fifth to question their judgment of supporting a man they knew was a bully? No alarm bells?
What were Christie's superior policy points versus Buono's?
I doubt seriously that any of the things on the list that they oh, much too late criticize him for, were on her platform.
at those guys.
No coffee for you!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)PCIntern
(25,557 posts)We tell them...we ALWAYS tell them and they just effing refuse to listen. WTF do they THINK is going on here with these RWers. They're not playing games...
Laxman
(2,419 posts)..."he seemed pretty good. How were we supposed to know he was really a creep" approach to be more of a salve to make themselves feel better for being so stupid and short sighted rather than a credible excuse for the consumption of the rest of the world. Put aside his policy positions, they knew this guy and he wasn't a very high character person either. What reason does that leave for supporting him?
Cha
(297,333 posts)without further ado.. I know I do!
"Yes, we knew Christie was a bully. But we didnt know his crew was crazy enough to put peoples lives at risk in Fort Lee as a means to pressure the mayor. We didnt know he would use Hurricane Sandy aid as a political slush fund. And we certainly didnt know that Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer was sitting on a credible charge of extortion by Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno."
thanks Lax~
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)You endorsed Governor Soprano for the same reason just about everybody else did: because he was going to win anyway. Or (now that we have the true picture of Christie's management style) perhaps it was because you feared receiving "radio silence" from the his administration, or even being boycotted by your most lucrative advertisers. But now that you've been scooped by the relatively small-potato Bergen Record and even the national media is wondering why they didn't notice that the emperor has no clothes, it's safe to pile on and take yourself off record of having endorsed the REAL loser.
rocktivity