Did George Zimmerman Complain About ‘F*cking C**ns’ In 911 Call Before Shooting?

[pokerfan]

This just gets uglier and uglier...

No matter how you look at it, the killing of Trayvon Martin is an ugly, ugly story that touches on any number of touchy subjects; vigilanteism, gun control, possible police misconduct, issues with the controversial “Stand Your Ground” law, and the touchiest of all, race. As our own Frances Martel so elegantly explained Sunday, this case shouldn’t be seen as just a “black problem,” but a case we all follow closely. However, the story is inexorably tied to race issues and will probably be even more now that some are claiming that they can hear the shooter, George Zimmerman, grumbling about “fucking coons” in the 911 call he made before killing Martin.

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However, now the attention has moved to the seconds before that back and forth. In those moments, Zimmerman can be heard moving after Martin (the sounds of his movements are what caused the officer to ask if he was pursuing Martin). In the midst of these sounds, there seems to be a quick comment made under Zimmerman’s breath and some now say is “fucking coons,” coon obviously being a racial slur against blacks.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/did-george-zimmerman-complain-about-fcking-cns-in-911-call-before-killing-trayvon-martin/

[Cirque du So-What]

1. I listened to the 911 audio

and it sure sounded like that's what he said. Also, the dispatcher said immediately afterward, 'sir, there's no reason for saying something like that,' or something to that effect.

I am not a lawyer, but to this layperson's way of thinking, it forms one basis for federal charges that Zimmerman violated Trayvon Martin's civil rights.

[DefenseLawyer]

7. It's hard to say

He may have said "fucking punks". The dispatcher was saying "we don't need you to do that" after Zimmerman said he was following him, it didn't seem to be in response to whatever it was Zimmerman said. I think it's pretty clear that this was racially motivated, regardless of whether he called him "coon". And whether it was racially motivated or not he shot and killed an unarmed 17 year old boy and the local police were fine with that.

[RZM]

3. You're really starting to crack me up

'The local citizenry should make it where the family is afraid to even come out of their house'

LOL

[seabeyond]

4. yes. there was a thread on it. it was clear. nt

[pokerfan]

5. good to see that the media is picking it up (nt)

[Comrade Grumpy]

6. To my ear, it was ambiguous. Could have been "fuckin' coons."

Could have been "fuckin' punks."

Either way, this guy needs to be indicted and should have been arrested on the spot.

[Igel]

8. There was a velar.

The formants are wrong for a dental.

/ng/ is a nasal velar, so is the /n/ before final /k/ in English.

The /n/ in "coon" is a dental.

First segment could be /p/, could be /k/. Could be any other velar or labial. I also don't hear enough rounding on the vowel for a good /u/. Even if he was laxing his high vowels.