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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:13 PM Feb 2014

DOJ: Nun and her co-defendents are "recidivists and habitual offenders" who need long jail terms

Yeah, but the banksters are your pals, right Eric?

typical of this DOJ, which as Laelth pointed out recently, is good on some civil rights issues and shitty on everything else.

This just makes me sick.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/19/nun-jailed-break-in-nuclear-plant

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DOJ: Nun and her co-defendents are "recidivists and habitual offenders" who need long jail terms (Original Post) cali Feb 2014 OP
How were they convicted? Did they plead guilty? nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #1
read the article. cali Feb 2014 #3
That's the hearing. Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #5
sorry, yes they had a jury trial and no cali Feb 2014 #7
Eric seems to have an unhealthy hangup about elderly women. GeorgeGist Feb 2014 #2
Abuse is nothing to joke about. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #4
I'm under the impression that Nuns take a vow of poverty or something similar Fumesucker Feb 2014 #6
I have no printable words here. woo me with science Feb 2014 #8
Cali - this week's Matt Taibbi article in Rolling Stone tells us where truedelphi Feb 2014 #9
That article alone woo me with science Feb 2014 #10
I wonder about the fate of Rolling Stone Magazine. truedelphi Feb 2014 #20
what specific laws did the banksters commit and what evidence does Holder have to make a case? Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #11
Barbie Holder says: Investigating banksters? Math is h-a-a-r-d! Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #16
you're kidding right? cali Feb 2014 #22
how Salvadoran (Haga Patria: Mate un cura) MisterP Feb 2014 #12
Yep. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #17
The protestors' biggest "crime..." Archae Feb 2014 #13
The judge is a George W. Bush appointee KeepItReal Feb 2014 #14
The prosecutors are Obama's DOJ. Do you need to know more? Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #18
But I have heard that truedelphi Feb 2014 #21
overcharging is typical of every DOJ, unfortunately nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #15
Oh well, what can you do... another political prisoner log on the fire... Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #19
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. read the article.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:18 PM
Feb 2014

I'm surprised you're not aware of this case. they were charged with sabotage.

<snip>

At the January hearing, four character witnesses for the defendants gave powerful testimony about their strong Christian and pacifist principles, their commitment to helping others, and their dedication to their cause. They, and the scores of supporters crowded into the courtroom, also provided an insight into the close-knit nature of the anti-nuclear faith community.

Mary Evelyn Tucker, director of the Forum on Religion and Ecology at Yale, who has known Rice all her life, compared the nun's use of non-violent protest to the "lineage of transformation" employed by Mahatma Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King. She said: "To allow Megan to continue the work of her life, the work to alleviate suffering, outside the walls of a prison would be an invaluable gift to the world. To keep her inside, the world would be diminished for lack of her work."

<snip>

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
5. That's the hearing.
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:22 PM
Feb 2014

I'm confused about whether this went to jury trial or they plead guilty.

Article doesn't say.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. I'm under the impression that Nuns take a vow of poverty or something similar
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 09:25 PM
Feb 2014

So yeah, I can understand how they get no sympathy from Mr Holder.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
9. Cali - this week's Matt Taibbi article in Rolling Stone tells us where
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:26 PM
Feb 2014

Eric Holder came from... remember financial swindler Marc Rich?

Back in the 1988 to 1992 period, Rich was making a fortune by putting together criminal deals with those Soviet bosses who controlled USSR's supply of raw materials.

The people in Russia benefiting from these dealings went on to be The One Percent of Russian Society. Marc Rich would get the local Russian mob bosses to sell him commodities, usually metals, at a mere 10% of the world-market price. And he'd reap big returns, returning a bit of the profits he made to those Russian criminals.

Marc Rich was an exile from the USA, as far too many criminal charges had been filed against him including tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering, and more.

Had he ever returned to the USA, he could have been put away at least for life.

Until Eric Holder brought him to Bill Clinton's attention n January of 2001. And Clinton offered Rich a Presidential pardon.

And Eric Holder's career has flourished ever since.

Rolling Stone article by Matt Taibbi, Vampire Squid Strikes Again.



truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
20. I wonder about the fate of Rolling Stone Magazine.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:53 AM
Feb 2014

Most magazines, if you look at their advertising base, have plenty of ads for credit cards, and other banking services.

Rarely do I see a credit card ad, even a single one, inside Rolling Stone, even though the zine's demographic is one credit card companies would like to tap into.

The Big Bankers are that afraid of, and mad at, Rolling Stone for keeping on the Great Taibbi and his mighty pen.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
11. what specific laws did the banksters commit and what evidence does Holder have to make a case?
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 10:34 PM
Feb 2014

That is really the problem. Banksters are way more slick than most bozos that actually commit crimes against laws on the books.

Seriously, breaking into a federal nuclear facility is pretty easy case to prosecute no matter the motives of the people breaking in. Proving that some large banks were actually engage in securities fraud or other crimes? Verrrryyyy difficult.

Perhaps there were other ways for these people to get their point across re: lax security other than sneaking in and vandalizing.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
16. Barbie Holder says: Investigating banksters? Math is h-a-a-r-d!
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 04:06 AM
Feb 2014

GI Joe Holder says: Prosecuting peaceful protesters? Vengeance is mine!

Context:
http://sniggle.net/barbie.php

Archae

(46,327 posts)
13. The protestors' biggest "crime..."
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:13 AM
Feb 2014

They really embarrassed the (har har) "security" at that uranium depository.

Three elderly people got in and just waited for anyone to even NOTICE them for over an hour.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
21. But I have heard that
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:57 AM
Feb 2014

In his third term Obama will really start reforming the DOJ, and seeing to it that basic laws are enforced. We just need patience.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
19. Oh well, what can you do... another political prisoner log on the fire...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:25 AM
Feb 2014

Now watch me throw this grape 20 feet in the air then catch it in my mouth!

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