Saudi Men: Women's Makeup Is Cause of Increased Molestation

[ErikJ]

Over 86 percent of Saudi men said that excessive makeup was the main cause of the increase in public molestation of women in the Kingdom.

Thu, January 9, 2014

A survey conducted by the King Abdul Aziz Centre for National Dialogue in Saudi Arabia shows that Saudi men blame women for the rising rate of molestation in the Gulf. The poll surveyed 992 men and women.

Ironically, in a country where women are required to wear full-face and body coverings in public, over 86 percent of men said that excessive makeup was the main cause of the increase in public molestation of women.

Saudi Arabia has no specific anti-molestations laws or penalties in place to combat indecent assault, a factor which was cited by 80 percent of the poll’s respondents as reason for the increasing phenomenon of molestation of women. The survey made no mention of the strict modesty dress codes to which Saudi women must adhere.

Of those surveyed 91 percent blamed "poor religious sentiment" while 75 percent said that a lack of awareness campaigns and warning notices were causing the problem.
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http://www.clarionproject.org/news/saudi-men-blame-women-increased-rate-molestation

[geek tragedy]

1. our friends the Saudis. barf. nt

[Iggo]

23. Yep, our brave allies in the war on terror.

Can't even control themselves around women.

Oh, yeah. I feel safer already!

[get the red out]

34. Well said

There is nothing remotely redeeming about the majority views in that nation.

[Warpy]

2. And men keep getting away with that bullshit

The truth is that a woman can be walking down the street in nothing but heavy makeup and a smile and she is still not asking for rape!

If men in Saudi Arabia are that far out of control, maybe they're the ones who need to be shut away while women run the country!

[ZombieHorde]

4. I agree.

Those men are making themselves seem like rape robots.

[ErikJ]

6. Maybe they need the full face veil burkas like in Afghanistan

Where you cant even see the eyes.

[Warpy]

7. Make the men wear them for a change.

[JI7]

9. on DU you had guys saying the person in a video was wearing makeup because she wanted to offer

herself up or some shit like that.

kept insisting there was some hypocrisy to what she was saying because she had makeup on.

[KitSileya]

17. I don't think the misogynists here on DU realize how much they sound like the Taliban et. al.

They use the same arguments, perhaps not as heavyhandedly as the Saudi Arabian cavemen and their ilk, but the gist of the arguments is the same. The way women dress, the way women behave, how men cannot control themselves, how natural it is for men to lack impulse control. They don't realize how man-hating they sound. But given their lack of self-insight, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

[Squinch]

31. This "Taliban" behavior seems to be becoming more pronounced by the few

as more and more people here begin to say, "that's not acceptable."

[Iggo]

24. Perfect parallel.

[bettyellen]

26. More than one guy played "gotcha" that somehow makeup

Made her fuckable for them.
One then went as far as suggest women fight wearing makeup... I guess because he wanted to be let off the hook for acting like an animal when someone wears lipstick. More of the bonobo theory on display, lol.

[sakabatou]

3. WTF?

[defacto7]

5. Oh, those Saudi men just can't control their

ultra manly over-sexed impulses and drives given by Allah. All women have to cover themselves or they will be forced to use their god given glandular imbalance. They are just too sexy for their brain.



(there is sarcasm contained in this comment. Thank you.)

[okaawhatever]

8. Now we know where the Republican candidates here get their info. nt

[DetlefK]

10. Could make a good argument in court.

A survey proving how little self-control saudi men have and that they shouldn't be trusted around women.

I remember, some years ago a saudi(?) cleric demanded that women cover up in university because young men are not used to being around women and they are like tomcats who can't control themselves.

"Cover up, because we are like animals who can't control themselves."

[merrily]

11. Make the men wear blindfolds then.

[Brigid]

21. And we have our thread winner.

[merrily]

35. Thank you.

After all, the men committing sexual assault and worse are the only ones breaking the law. Although, this could be a prelude to outlawing makeup.

[BlueMTexpat]

12. No. Just no.

Not just Saudi men believe this. Unfortunately.

There are plenty of our own "American Taliban" who do - and not all of those Taliban are men. Even more unfortunately.

What's wrong is a society that believes - for whatever cockamamie theory whatsoever - that molestation of anyone - male or female - is caused by the victim. It is those who molest, or whom a society enables/allows to molest (meaning that the society itself is problematic, to say the least), who are at fault.

Period.

[Marrah_G]

28. You really can't compare the two

[Squinch]

32. ^^^^ Yep!

Yep to Bluemtexpat. I think the comparison of the two is accurate.

[jmowreader]

13. Come on...

Exactly how much makeup do you need to wear before it shows through a black cloth wrapped around your head?

[shenmue]

14. I almost spit my drink

What is this shit?



Now that is some ignorance.

[surrealAmerican]

15. So, do they have some statistical data ...

... showing that makeup use by assault victims is much higher than that of non-victims? ...


... yeah, I didn't think so. Not only are their opinions garbage, their "facts" are garbage too.

[Skidmore]

16. The Saudis have two sources of income: oil and religious tourism.

Period. When the oil runs out, they will double down on religious edicts and persecution of their own parochial interpretation of Islam.

[ck4829]

18. So it boils down to "It's the womens fault" and "The government didn't tell them NOT to". Wow.

In most cases of blaming the victim, it's passive. It's not about thinking at all, jumping to a conclusion while ignoring logic and reason.

But this, this requires jumping through a lot of mental hoops to get here.

Saudis and others who defend this, does it really do you any good to go out of your way to defend people who do things like this?

[sufrommich]

19. No amount of accommodation is going to change

the treatment of women in these horribly misogynistic countries.

[Quantess]

20. They should be ashamed of themselves.

This attitude also extends to women showing their hair. Muslim women are not required to cover their hair in order to be muslim, you know. They cover their hair for cultural reasons more than for religious reasons. I know several women in europe who call themselves muslims who wear western clothing and show their hair.

Wearing makeup and showing your hair is viewed by some muslims as whorish. Obviously, whorish women are asking to get raped.

[Iggo]

22. Fucking mama's boys.

[Holly_Hobby]

25. Lack of impulse control is a major sign of personality disorder n/t

[Marrah_G]

27. So now the eye slits are too sexy?

[gordianot]

29. That was also my thought they are talking about eye make up.

[Javaman]

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Do I really need to add the sarcasm tag?

[Beacool]

33. No, lack of self control among some men is the source of molestation.

Aided and abetted by a retrograde male dominated society that treats women as if they were toddlers.