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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 08:35 AM Feb 2014

They're cruising ahead with the TPP as if Reid and Pelosi objecting was just kabuki

and that's because it is.

The President is DETERMINED to push through both TPP and TTIP (European trade deal) before he leaves office. Some nitpickers have objected to my use of the word "determined" regarding his efforts to move these deals forward. It's as apt a word to use as could possibly be.

Virtually all of corporate media has lined up to push the TPP in editorials ranging from incredibly shameless (WaPo, anything owned by that fuck Rupert) to the sheepish (The NYT).

As Bernie pointed out, corporate media has been loath to cover the TPP, but regardless, knowledge and opposition have grown a lot over the past year. and you know that dem pols in congress are aware of that.

I get a great deal of my news on the tpp from overseas media and bloggers as well from the very knowledgeable David Johnson and sites such as EFF and Public Citizen. I also go to the USTR website to see what color the smoke they're blowing is.

Tom Friedman has jumped aboard the TPP. No surprise there.

What Does Tom Friedman Know About TPP?

New York Times columnist Tom Friedman once declared that he doesn't really bother understanding international trade agreements. But that doesn't stop him from writing about them. In a TV interview (CNBC, 7/22/06), he once admitted: "I wrote a column supporting the CAFTA, the Caribbean Free Trade initiative. I didn't even know what was in it. I just knew two words: free trade." (Actually, he didn't even know what its name was; it's the Central America Free Trade Agreement, not "Caribbean.&quot

So there was Friedman on Sunday (2/16/14) writing about the TPP, or Trans-Pacific Partnership. Friedman was contrasting the can-do spirit of Silicon Valley with the paralysis on Capitol Hill:

"But Washington these days won't even do the league minimum. As The Economist observed in an essay entitled "When Harry Mugged Barry," both the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal with big Asian markets like Japan, which is almost done, and the U.S.-European Union trade deal, which is being negotiated, are "next generation" agreements that even the playing field for us by requiring higher environmental and labor standards from our trading partners and more access for our software and services."

International trade deals are being to written to benefit the United States and raise environmental and labor standards. Well, who could be against that?

The only problem is that doesn't appear to be what's happening. As Friedman's paper has reported (1/15/14):

The Obama administration is retreating from previous demands of strong international environmental protections in order to reach agreement on a sweeping Pacific trade deal that is a pillar of President Obama's strategic shift to Asia, according to documents obtained by WikiLeaks, environmentalists and people close to the contentious trade talks.

<snip>

Whatever the case, Friedman's been told these are "free trade" deals, and those are the ones he's for.

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http://www.fair.org/blog/2014/02/18/what-does-tom-friedman-know-about-tpp/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-does-tom-friedman-know-about-tpp




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They're cruising ahead with the TPP as if Reid and Pelosi objecting was just kabuki (Original Post) cali Feb 2014 OP
It seems... Oilwellian Feb 2014 #1
I don't know- or care much if it's by design cali Feb 2014 #2
Because liberalmike27 Feb 2014 #21
It takes a Democrat to discredit FDR's legacy jsr Feb 2014 #26
There should have ProSense Feb 2014 #3
So wait. Obama sends a free trade friendly senator out as ambassador to China Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #29
Bingo! It is kabuki, that's been obvious for Autumn Feb 2014 #4
Tom Friedman LOL n/t KG Feb 2014 #5
Yep Kabuki theater... zeemike Feb 2014 #6
This country is run by a game show called "The Voice". L0oniX Feb 2014 #10
This is just irrational Obama-hating. arcane1 Feb 2014 #7
cali never really loved him!!1! QC Feb 2014 #19
... Scuba Feb 2014 #8
Can I have some constitution toilet paper with that? L0oniX Feb 2014 #11
Let's give TPP the boot saidsimplesimon Feb 2014 #17
Yep, if Dems wanted to win, they'd make defeating TPP a campaign plank. Scuba Feb 2014 #18
My fear is... Enthusiast Feb 2014 #25
Matt Taibbi on Friedman: delrem Feb 2014 #9
The Corporations and the 1% are in Charge gerogie2 Feb 2014 #12
But what an entertaining illusion it is. zeemike Feb 2014 #14
I'ts time to get fighting mad. And take to the streets..... Hotler Feb 2014 #13
Let's please do this. dotymed Feb 2014 #15
K & R AzDar Feb 2014 #16
Look guys, the whole point in "free" trade in the beginning was, I believe, to avoid the JDPriestly Feb 2014 #20
The Ownership Society that designed the concept of "Free Trade".. bvar22 Feb 2014 #31
The corporations that run the joint TBF Feb 2014 #22
You cannot still be surprised. This is just that, theater. kickysnana Feb 2014 #23
well no. not surprised but this still needs to be said cali Feb 2014 #24
We have been the victims of an elaborate Kabuki ruse for quite a while now. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #27
US Politics Is Always Kabuki Designed To Distract The Masses cantbeserious Feb 2014 #28
When you watch what they actually *do* and disregard the words, Marr Feb 2014 #30

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
1. It seems...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:19 AM
Feb 2014

Passing TPP and cutting SS & Medicare benefits are the main benchmarks this administration has been trying to achieve. It certainly isn't what Obama campaigned on. The Democratic party will be in as much disarray as the Repubs if they pass these bills. I also think that is by design.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. I don't know- or care much if it's by design
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:34 AM
Feb 2014

I do know that President Obama has run a very, very corporate friendly administration and that has been to the detriment of the vast majority of people in this country.

I do know that his rhetoric is often belied by his actions.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
21. Because
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:37 AM
Feb 2014

They always end up passing, with a Democratic President, all of the Republicans voting for them, and just enough Democrats to put them over the top usually the ones that either aren't running again, or in safe districts.

Look for this one to pass in the same way.

Again, we're so screwed, and everything seems to be locked in, our destruction assured.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. There should have
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:40 AM
Feb 2014

"They're cruising ahead with the TPP as if Reid and Pelosi objecting was just kabuki"

...been no doubt. That's why I said this (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024414324) was premature (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024415408#post4)

How Wyden is slowing Obama on trade

By Vicki Needham

The next chairman of the Senate Finance Committee is making it plain to President Obama that he will not rush forward with “fast-track” legislation that would spur on the White House’s trade agenda.

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) has no plans to take up the fast-track bill written by outgoing Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.)...Instead, he says he will hear out other senators on trade, a policy area he says has changed tremendously since the last time a fast-track bill was approved, in 2002.

<...>

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), a member of the panel who has been critical of free-trade policies, said his view is that Wyden will ditch the bill Baucus wrote with Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah), the top Republican on Finance, and House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.).

Brown expects Wyden to start from scratch.

“We’re not going to pass a 2002 fast-track and that’s pretty much what the Hatch-Camp-Baucus bill was,” he told The Hill. “It was dressing up the pig to make it look a little better ...“It has to be fundamentally different,” Brown said of a future bill.

- more-

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/trade/197610-sen-wyden-says-not-so-fast-on-trade

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024467470
 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
29. So wait. Obama sends a free trade friendly senator out as ambassador to China
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:51 PM
Feb 2014

That senator on the finance committee is going to be replaced by a senator from Oregon pushing progressive values and slowing down TPP?

Boy, that Obama sure does know how to force TPP through.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
6. Yep Kabuki theater...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:30 AM
Feb 2014

And some are so entertained by it they don't notice what is going on behind the curtain.
There is a rock star in the leading role so who cares if we get screwed.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
10. This country is run by a game show called "The Voice".
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:43 AM
Feb 2014

As long as a politician speaks the right speak its all good. Actions for the people? pffft ..that is sooooo FDR.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
17. Let's give TPP the boot
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:18 AM
Feb 2014

It should be a major issue moving toward 2014 elections. I agree with those who question concentrating all our campaign funds with a single focus on HRC in 2016.

In a parallel universe, politician's and corporate plans for unfair trade agreements would face the wrath of masses in the streets.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
9. Matt Taibbi on Friedman:
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:37 AM
Feb 2014

"January 12, 2009

Matt Taibbi: Flathead: The Peculiar Genius of Thomas L. Friedman

Flathead: I think it was about five months ago that Press editor Alex Zaitchik whispered to me in the office hallway that Thomas Friedman had a new book coming out. All he knew about it was the title, but that was enough; he approached me with the chilled demeanor of a British spy who has just discovered that Hitler was secretly buying up the world's manganese supply. Who knew what it meantbut one had to assume the worst

"It's going to be called The Flattening," he whispered. Then he stood there, eyebrows raised, staring at me, waiting to see the effect of the news when it landed. I said nothing.

It turned out Alex had bad information; the book that ultimately came out would be called The World Is Flat. It didn't matter. Either version suggested the same horrifying possibility. Thomas Friedman in possession of 500 pages of ruminations on the metaphorical theme of flatness would be a very dangerous thing indeed. It would be like letting a chimpanzee loose in the NORAD control room; even the best-case scenario is an image that could keep you awake well into your 50s.
...."

http://delong.typepad.com/egregious_moderation/2009/01/matt-taibbi-flathead-the-peculiar-genius-of-thomas-l-friedman.html

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. But what an entertaining illusion it is.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:02 AM
Feb 2014

You got your good guys and you got your bad guys in a never ending struggle for truth, justice and the American way...like any good comic book.

And oh the joy when the good guys win, and the fear when the bad guys are on the acendincy...it strokes every emotion we have.

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
13. I'ts time to get fighting mad. And take to the streets.....
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:00 AM
Feb 2014

the likes this country has never seen before. Spring is coming and we need to occupy Washington DC..

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
15. Let's please do this.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:16 AM
Feb 2014

We are out of options. Sink or swim time for America.
PARTIES NO LONGER MATTER, IT IS ALL ABOUT GREED. THE NWO..

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. Look guys, the whole point in "free" trade in the beginning was, I believe, to avoid the
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 11:31 AM
Feb 2014

US environmental restrictions that were passed under Nixon. It was a back door to the legal polluting of the planet.

The big American corporations don't like to treat employees as human beings or the earth as a living being.

They care only about saving money to take in personal profit for their high-level management and most important shareholders. They could care less about anything else as long as they can take big short-term profits.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
31. The Ownership Society that designed the concept of "Free Trade"..
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 08:39 PM
Feb 2014

..had 3 goals in mind:

*Bust Unions

*Drive Down Wages & Benefits for the American Worker

*Avoid Environmental & Human Rights Regulation.

Their "Free Trade" scam has been wildly successful.... FOR the Corporate Owners.

kickysnana

(3,908 posts)
23. You cannot still be surprised. This is just that, theater.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:41 PM
Feb 2014

Packaged just for us. We get nice words, businesses and pubs get action.

Just look at the echo chamber we have now directly on DU for propaganda that is again legal.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. well no. not surprised but this still needs to be said
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:45 PM
Feb 2014

particularly as DU has such a large contingent of people who are more about partisanship and love for the President than about facts and policies.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
27. We have been the victims of an elaborate Kabuki ruse for quite a while now.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:44 PM
Feb 2014

This Kabuki is the mechanism used by the controllers to achieve their aims which are counter to ours and the earth. You name the issue, there is a corresponding Kabuki. Much of the Kabuki is being paid for by US tax payers. It is a tangled web.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
30. When you watch what they actually *do* and disregard the words,
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:44 PM
Feb 2014

the theater is pretty obvious, yep. We've got a bunch of politicians maneuvering themselves into defensive positions to pass an unpopular policy.

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