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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 01:56 PM Feb 2014

"Premeditated self-defense "

It seems that a new 'legal' concept has been introduced.
Premeditated self-defense.
You plan your response based on what you think will happen in any given situation. That depends on your frame of reference and imagination.

It 's the "Looking-glass defense" because it belongs in Wonderland!

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"Premeditated self-defense " (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 OP
It Is A Bit Colder Than That, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2014 #1
True. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #3
I think it is a little simpler than that rustydog Feb 2014 #5
I Agree, Sir, That Without The Gun, They Would Have Sat Quietly In Their Automobiles.... The Magistrate Feb 2014 #6
Truth Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #9
Better known as the Drama Queen Knee-Jerk over-reaction to rustydog Feb 2014 #2
Yep Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #4
Bite-sized Bush Doctrine for all the Pocket Zimmermans out there. Iggo Feb 2014 #7
In a nutshell. nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #8
oxymoronic phrase. truthiness. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #10
Juuuust right for those morans and those who acquit them. nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Downwinder Feb 2014 #12

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
1. It Is A Bit Colder Than That, Sir
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:03 PM
Feb 2014

The people who commit these murders, like Dunn and Zimmerman, are consciously looking for an opportunity to shoot someone, and the combination of easy permits for carrying weapons and relaxed standards for employment of deadly force in self-defense enable them to carry out fantasies of lethal power they have been nursing for years. They spend a fair amount of each day rehearsing in their minds what they will say, how they will describe a situation, in order to make their killing seem to conform to the newly lax standards of the law; they run movie-scripts through their heads of how the 'punk' will say this or that menacing phrase, make this or that threatening motion, and leave them 'no choice' but to do what they have been dreaming of doing most of their waking lives.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
3. True.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:07 PM
Feb 2014

This is the faux term that I think they have in mind to separate it from premeditated murder. This is in their minds to justify what they do.

It's murder plain and simple but I think this could be a certain rationalization.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
5. I think it is a little simpler than that
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:11 PM
Feb 2014

At least with these two. Neither of these two would have had the balls to come within striking distance or even BOTHER to say anything in their situation if neither of them had a portable spinal column ball-sac replacement option (firearm at hand).

They are craven cowards who need to have the bullet do their speaking because they lack confidence in their intellect and physical skills required for the fist-fight they were initiating and, being the cowards they were, pulled their portable manliness enhancement devices and murdered a person they started a fight with.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
6. I Agree, Sir, That Without The Gun, They Would Have Sat Quietly In Their Automobiles....
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:14 PM
Feb 2014

But their minds would still have fizzed with the dream of killing....

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
9. Truth
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:18 PM
Feb 2014

No gun, no interaction for these two individuals.

However, cowards acting behind the shield of a weapon will not end with gun control.

And these two do not justify a generalization of gun carriers. These two are the extreme (and the publicized).

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
2. Better known as the Drama Queen Knee-Jerk over-reaction to
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:05 PM
Feb 2014

a misperceived threat and offensive name-calling.

PASTITFFS: Panic And Shoot Them In The Face First Syndrome

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