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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:46 PM Feb 2014

Conservative Pastor Writes That Open-Mindedness and Inquiry Are Enemies of Faith

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/02/18/tell-me-something-i-dont-know-conservative-pastor-writes-that-open-mindedness-and-inquiry-are-enemies-of-faith/

"The first time I chuckled out loud over something Pastor Daniel K. Norris wrote was a couple of weeks ago, when he reminded parents not to brag about their children, only to divulge in the same piece that his daughter is “absolutely gorgeous” and that “I’m raising a Saint!”

Modesty. Norris will no doubt tell you it’s one of his greatest virtues.

Now he’s found my funny bone again, this time by chastising pastors, like those in the Clergy Project, who’ve begun to doubt their faith. He faults them for … not keeping a closed mind.

I was waiting for some kind of twist on that eye-popping statement, some clever reveal, but Norris appears to mean it in all earnestness. Keeping your mind closed, he says, is the only valid, lasting path to Jesus.

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Conservative Pastor Writes That Open-Mindedness and Inquiry Are Enemies of Faith (Original Post) HuckleB Feb 2014 OP
Thinking gets in the way of belief and belief gets in the way of thinking. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #1
Which is why the scientific and the spiritual, to my mind, are largely incompatible. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #23
Well, duh. Scuba Feb 2014 #2
The mind is the devil's playground! defacto7 Feb 2014 #3
And it could be dangerous Autumn Feb 2014 #4
+1 HuckleB Feb 2014 #25
religious conservatives rely upon ignorance RainDog Feb 2014 #5
When one person has an imaginary friend, they're delusional. lindysalsagal Feb 2014 #21
It amazes me what people are taught to believe as children RainDog Feb 2014 #24
Truth from the most unlikely places... Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #6
What would he say to someone whose mind was closed Isoldeblue Feb 2014 #7
+1 HuckleB Feb 2014 #10
Brains are for the birds jsr Feb 2014 #8
And people shouldn't get married because it's the chief cause of divorce. edbermac Feb 2014 #9
There was a RedState divorce-rate study StarlightGold Feb 2014 #28
Same thing Martin Luther said a few centuries ago. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #11
Indeed, Ma'am: This Fella Is Just Re-Inventing the Wheel... The Magistrate Feb 2014 #13
So if God didn't want Pastor Norris to think, why did he give him a brain? theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #12
A spine and autonomic functions, like breathing??? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #14
+1 HuckleB Feb 2014 #27
Tim Minchin's take on faith GoneOffShore Feb 2014 #15
Minchin rocks! HuckleB Feb 2014 #16
GOOD. Keep making more people atheists, pastor! nt alp227 Feb 2014 #17
I hate it when conservative pastors are right. lindysalsagal Feb 2014 #18
Awesome. I love it. Quantess Feb 2014 #19
You know what they say - idle minds are the devil's playthings! Initech Feb 2014 #20
There ARE people who use "freethinker" as a pejorative ck4829 Feb 2014 #22
Of course! They want the opposite close minded acceptance of dogma on point Feb 2014 #26
Well, really, how else to swallow these ridiculous Primitive Tales from the Bronze Age? Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #29

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
23. Which is why the scientific and the spiritual, to my mind, are largely incompatible.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:07 PM
Feb 2014

Spirituality may have a valid place in people's lives, but that's just it - it has its place, where it should remain. Personal and (mostly) private.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
5. religious conservatives rely upon ignorance
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:03 PM
Feb 2014

the preach it as doctrine via literalism and by conflating their own prejudices with something moral.

being around such belief systems are like being in upside down world.

they bear so much resemblance to cults - and, of course, one classic definition of the difference between a cult and a religion is merely the numbers who fall for the story and how much power they have in society to maintain such narratives.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
21. When one person has an imaginary friend, they're delusional.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:03 PM
Feb 2014

When large groups have imaginary friends, it's religion.

I can't get the link to the image....anyone?

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
24. It amazes me what people are taught to believe as children
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:11 PM
Feb 2014

STILL.

...and when your group's imaginary friend has political power, you can say your god justifies slavery because, hey, it happened. for reals.

StarlightGold

(365 posts)
28. There was a RedState divorce-rate study
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:07 PM
Feb 2014

a little while ago that concluded that the divorce rate in red states was higher than blue states.

The sad, delusional folks at freepland dismissed the study, saying, I swear to god, "Well, it just shows that people in red states get married at a higher rate. So even if they get divorced, at least they were married to begin with. So, it's all good"

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGG!!!!!!!

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
11. Same thing Martin Luther said a few centuries ago.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:03 PM
Feb 2014


"Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense and understanding."
--Martin Luther












GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
15. Tim Minchin's take on faith
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:22 PM
Feb 2014

from "Storm"

Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
16. Minchin rocks!
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:57 PM
Feb 2014

Not just his comedy songs, either. His songs for the musical version of Matilda are absolutely incredible.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
18. I hate it when conservative pastors are right.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:54 PM
Feb 2014

Keeping it closed keeps all the scary thoughts out. I feel better, already.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
29. Well, really, how else to swallow these ridiculous Primitive Tales from the Bronze Age?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:10 PM
Feb 2014

There was only one magical dude in the entire universe, he was the product deity rape, he lived 2,000 years ago in ancient Judea, and he's coming back aaaaaany day...Uh huh...

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