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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 02:06 AM Feb 2014

Artist Smashes Ai Weiwei Vase to Protest Museum’s Snub of Local Artists

http://hyperallergic.com/109783/artist-smashes-ai-weiwei-vase-to-protest-museums-snub-of-local-artists/

Miami-based artist Maximo Caminero, 51, hurled himself into the media spotlight when he dropped a vase that was part of Ai Weiwei’s According to What? retrospective currently at the Perez Art Museum Miami. The shattered item was one of 16 vases that make up “Colored Vases” (2006–12), which was created by the Chinese artist from what are believed to be ancient Chinese vases.

Caminero visited the museum on Sunday, February 16, and proceeded to destroy part of the work.

...

The artist told Miami New Times that “he had no idea Weiwei’s work was worth $1 million. ‘I didn’t know that it was that amount,’ he says. ‘I feel so sorry about it, for sure.’”

“I wanted to draw attention to the fact that there are many foreign artists like myself and others who have been here thirty years and have never received attention or support from MAM or now PAMM and other local museums,” he continues. “We are all taxpayers here and PAMM used $200 million of public money on its building and opened with Weiwei’s work to draw attention to itself and as always continues to ignore local artists.”


(Ai Weiwei did a famous piece called "Dropping a Han Dynasty Urn"...)
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Artist Smashes Ai Weiwei Vase to Protest Museum’s Snub of Local Artists (Original Post) Recursion Feb 2014 OP
I'm sure being a vandal and a dick will help the cause Scootaloo Feb 2014 #1
Great artists are often only recognized after they are conveniently dead Fumesucker Feb 2014 #2
meh. JVS Feb 2014 #3
I can understand his point, it is perfectly valid. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #4
it is one thing for him to have a point DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #5
It seems that, in his opinion, his action was both a statement and an homage. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #6
I live somehwere DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #7
Supposedly the broken pot is worth a million or so -- because it's actually some ancient pot that El_Johns Feb 2014 #9
Personally not impressed by weiwei's dipped ancient pots as 'art'. IMO weiwei already damaged them El_Johns Feb 2014 #8
well, the asshole that did the damage has his own art online snooper2 Feb 2014 #13
I was expecting Caminero to claim that destroying the $1 million Chinese vase no_hypocrisy Feb 2014 #10
What an asshole. badtoworse Feb 2014 #11
Ai Wei Wei himself broke vases marions ghost Feb 2014 #12
The vase is not worth a million dollars. Brickbat Feb 2014 #14
Museums often overestimate auction appraisals Recursion Feb 2014 #15
Right marions ghost Feb 2014 #17
video of the act Generic Other Feb 2014 #16
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
4. I can understand his point, it is perfectly valid.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 02:44 AM
Feb 2014

Not sure if this show was appropriate, but I'm willing to hear him out.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
5. it is one thing for him to have a point
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:01 AM
Feb 2014

another to actively destroy art to make it. On the one hand, America doe shave a lot of great art that only seems to get attention after people are dead, but on the other hand, there is other art that does deserve to be shown in America, because frankly that is where America will have a chance to learn about other cultures'.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
6. It seems that, in his opinion, his action was both a statement and an homage.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:12 AM
Feb 2014

As for that last bit, puh-lease. As if. Just where do you think you live?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
7. I live somehwere
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:14 AM
Feb 2014

That needs to learn about other cultures and sometimes learns them at Museums, but may not if people think some local clown will break stuff to make a "statement and an homage." Let's rip the Mona Lisa while we are at it.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
9. Supposedly the broken pot is worth a million or so -- because it's actually some ancient pot that
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:23 AM
Feb 2014

the artist dipped in paint.

The show includes a collection of vases, dipped by the artist in paint, that Ai has represented as from the Han Dynasty. That would make them more than 2,000 years old.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/18/3943647/local-artist-apologizes-for-smashing.html#storylink=cpy

But if its value is its age, that has already been destroyed by being dipped in garish paint.

If its value is the garish paint, that's totally subjective and I don't buy it.

I don't really think they're from the Han Dynasty either. You just don't have a lot of Han dynasty pots that you're allowed to paint in kiddie colors.

Personally I'd break them all. The art world is basically run by the rich and its a joke on all of us.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
8. Personally not impressed by weiwei's dipped ancient pots as 'art'. IMO weiwei already damaged them
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:18 AM
Feb 2014

by dipping them in cheap paint.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. well, the asshole that did the damage has his own art online
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:24 AM
Feb 2014

He only wants 28K, for this- LOL

link to assholes work/bio
http://maximocaminero.artelista.com/en/




no_hypocrisy

(46,129 posts)
10. I was expecting Caminero to claim that destroying the $1 million Chinese vase
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:43 AM
Feb 2014

was an act of art in of itself as deconstruction.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
12. Ai Wei Wei himself broke vases
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:16 AM
Feb 2014

to make a statement about art. I imagine he would actually appreciate this artist's doing the same. But the curators won't.

It is true that America does not support local (living) artists well at all. So that makes it the place of museums to do the job as best they can. But I would give this museum a chance to do that. Public museums ARE the way that art can be accessible to all. You don't have to buy art to appreciate it.

But this is a Dark Ages for the arts in general. So I understand people involved in it going crazy.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
14. The vase is not worth a million dollars.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:30 AM
Feb 2014

That's a number the police officer taking the report pulled out of his ass to cover himself.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. Museums often overestimate auction appraisals
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:42 AM
Feb 2014

It kind of becomes a status contest. That said, Ai Weiwei' stuff has been doing really well at auctions lately.

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