Young Boy Shot to Death by Cop Moments After Sitting Down to Watch a Movie in His Home

[MrScorpio]

EUHARLEE — A teenage boy who was about to graduate highschool to join the Marines has been executed by a female officer.

The incident has left the community horrified, with many accusing the officer of incompetence and being “trigger-happy.”



The OP-Nat Eye reports that 17-yr-old Christopher Roupe was shot and killed moments after sitting down to watch a movie in his family’s home.

At around 7:30 PM, young Christopher took out his Nintendo Wii controller to put on a movie.

As he was sitting down, he suddenly heard knocking on the front door.

He asked, “Who is it?” but received no response.

At that point he got up from his chair and opened the door.

To his shock, the female cop already had her gun drawn and pointed at him, according to reports.

She immediately fired a bullet into the boy’s chest and killed him, according to Renee Vance, the boy’s aunt.

The police claim that “he had a handgun.”

It was actually the boy’s small Nintendo Wii controller, says the aunt.



The officer gave him “no warning” to drop the controller before taking his life, the aunt added.

The police claimed to be at his house regarding a “probation” matter. It turns out that it had nothing to do with Christopher.

His 13-yr-old little sister heard the gun shot and ran over to the door to find her brother bleeding and crying.

The little sister held her brother and tried to comfort him as he cried in pain, according to reports.

That’s when the female cop pointed her gun at the child and said “Shut up!” according to reports, forcing the girl away.

Moments later Christopher bled to death.

http://filmingcops.com/young-boy-shot-to-death-by-cop-moments-after-sitting-down-to-watch-a-movie-in-his-home/

Rest in Power, Christopher Roupe

[newfie11]

1. Unfreaking believable!

This is beyond words!

[TransitJohn]

65. What planet do you live on? How is this unbelievable? This is the norm. eom

n/t

[newfie11]

95. I live in South Dakota

Is common where you live for a cop to respond to a kid opening the door by shooting him in the heart?
I'm glad I don't live in the same world you do!
Sorry there are better places, maybe you should move.
With your snarky attitude I have a feeling trouble would be wherever you are!

[Scruffy Rumbler]

107. In So Dakota

they pass jars around in bars with the label "Get the Fag Out of Town" Fund. In So Dakota, after spending years caring for his aging father, raising millions for the community, a "fag" can be followed home from the bar, beaten, left for dead, found tree days later on his living room floor, spend weeks in a come, find the weapon, taken apart, cleaned and left by the "body" and rule it accidental injury from falling down the stairs.... That is the world you live in in SO Dakota.... oh yeah, how you all treaten them people over there on the rez?

And yes, in the USA it is common for cops to kill innocent people and claim they had a fuking gun. You might want to try another place to come from before declaring how great So Dakota is....

[Comrade Grumpy]

123. Who and what are you talking about?

And where do you live?

[liberalhistorian]

184. Excuse me, but I also live in South Dakota

and this is very much the norm if you are not white in this state. I'm white, middle-class and living on a poverty-stricken Indian reservation, some parts of which might as well be in the Third World. Native americans off the reservation are considered, and treated as, scum by both the general public and the police. Police harassment of natives is constant and endemic, especially in the cities. There have been numerous cases just within the past few years of cops shooting natives for no reason, several of them shot in the back while the usual claim was made that they were "threatening". Nothing is ever done to the cops and no one gives a shit, including the press, because, hell, they're just Indians. So I'd suggest you get out of your own skin and look at the way things really are in this state and not just for those of us who are in the majority.

The state press has been full of the news lately that it's now suspected that AIM killed a black activist who was part of the 1973 Wounded Knee takeover on the Pine Ridge Reservation. Before that, it concentrated on another forty-year-old suspected AIM case. Never mind the countless unsolved murders of Indians on the reservations and in the other areas of the state that you can't get the cops, press and public to give a shit about. Anything to discredit and disparage Indians and a long-moribund Indian organization that formed as the result of horrendous segregation, discrimination and oppression.

[demwing]

134. No what planet do YOU live on? This is NOT the norm

we should all have the same response as newfie11, and no one should be treated rudely for being shocked at this violence.

[proudretiredvet]

141. I so much agree with this post.

I do feel anger when reading about this great young american. I feel the disgust that we trusted a person that failed to protect life and protect the innocent.
Time for a deep breath and a time for tears.
This was not what this LEO was trained to do. She must be held responsible for her actions. This is manslaughter, pure and simple.

[Rhythm]

144. More like 2nd degree murder...

It's not like there was some altercation between the LEO and the victim, and there was no provocation.

[Live and Learn]

178. Agree with no one should be treated rudely

for being shocked but anyone paying attention must realize that this is becoming the norm. Police shootings, beatings and tazerings are definitely out of control and there is little accountability.

As a society, we have always wanted to support the police and did so, even when their behavior was questionable toward those society believed to be less than savory, allowing officers to believe that they were beyond reproach. Now the "middle class" is beginning to suffer the consequences of allowing unchecked power and many still don't want to see the truth.

First they came for...

[imthevicar]

179. This has been the reality,

In Black Neighborhoods for years. What has brought it home is now it's becoming the norm in Lilly White Neighborhoods. Now that anger has made it an issue. The truth be told most of us were OK when it was going on "their". if this offends sorry, but that makes it no less than true!

[newfie11]

183. So it's this bad

Where cops shoot a kid opening the door (responding to a knock)!
What the hell is it with racist shit in this country?

The problem I see is these racists have no friends ( friends not just acquaintances) of a different skin color, religion, etc.

This is so sad and needless. People missing so much in life.

As far as cops shooting people of color I don't know how to stop it.

[In_The_Wind]

2. WTF is the matter with everyone these days!

Rest in peace, Christopher Roupe

[Perseus]

28. "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis

I suggest everyone read this book, it is free:

http://www.goodreads.com/ebooks/download/11371.It_Can_t_Happen_Here?doc=4247

People need to wake up that situations like those happening today in Venezuela, where people used to say "It Can't Happen Here" are very possible anywhere, even here. Venezuelans dismissed the thought that someone like Hugo Chavez could ever take power in Venezuela, well it did and now you see the results, a country going the Cuba way where people line up to buy bread, toilet paper, where everything is rationed and the propaganda that the government works for the people is just a lie, everyone is hurting there, everyone but those attached to the government.

And the symptoms are starting to show in the USA, wake up America.

[In_The_Wind]

30. Indeed!

Thanks for bringing the link to DU.

[7962]

48. You're right. But you havent seen how many here STILL support who's running VZ. Its amazing.

Just look around for some of the VZ threads and read some of the posts. Some still blame the US for any problems down there.

[Oilwellian]

68. Uh, Chavez was elected, overwhelmingly, by Venezuelans, twice

Perhaps you should study a little further the plight of the Venezuelan people before and after Chavez. You have it exactly backwards.

[liberalhistorian]

185. Uh, perhaps you haven't heard

of the massive voter intimidation and fraud on the part of Chavez and his minions, his suppression and oppression of his political opposition, his unilateral decrees that favored his party, his "winning" by force, fear and intimadation, and not true democracy. For a site that is cognizant of voter restrictions and intimidations in this country, you sure are ill-informed about it in another country.

[Comrade Grumpy]

124. What a strange McCarthyite tangent for a thread about a US cop shooting a kid.

[rustbeltvoice]

154. ditto

[cui bono]

156. And disinformation and propaganda are being spread to make it happen here.

And the symptoms are starting to show on DU, wake up DU.

[barbtries]

180. thank you.

jeez

[SamKnause]

3. Our administration

loves to comment on police and military violence and killings in other countries.

Has our administration ever spoken out about the violence and murders committed by our police ?

Has our administration ever spoken out about the violence and murders caused by our SWAT teams ?

I don't recall any such occasion.

I guess all the innocent people murdered by the police and SWAT teams are not worth speaking about.

[MrScorpio]

4. Well, it all went like peaches and ice cream the first time The Prez spoke out about abusive cops...

Right?

[SamKnause]

7. Calling the Cambridge police stupid ???

Is that what you are referring to ???

What has that got to do with people being murdered in their homes ?

The elderly, the young, children and dogs are being murdered and not a peep.

You must think Obama is a coward if he can not speak out against this after being in office 5 years.

[MrScorpio]

16. But you remember the backlash that occurred against him even from that minor amount of criticism?

It was like all hell was breaking loose.

Imagine what would happen in the Black President dared to tell cops to stop murdering people. The Media, the Cop Lobby and the Republicans would have a field day with that shit.

Hell, I'm about post a story about how the Republicans are planning on suing Obama for merely being the President of the United States.

These things are local problems, local people need to speak up, en masse, and demand that their cops stop killing people. You want this to stop, you get the communities to rise up against it. Some BS top approach is going to nothing except rev up another news cycle blame game against President by all the opportunists out there and the message will lost in all of the chaos.

Putting this on the President's back is nothing more than a bunch of Obama-blaming crapola.

[SamKnause]

19. Should he instruct Eric Holder to confront this issue ?

Are you not upset that NO ONE is this country is addressing the issue of so many innocent people being murdered in the

their homes and in the streets by police and SWAT teams ?????

Are you suggesting our president cower in fear ???

[JI7]

22. the police depts are not one huge dept controlled by the President, they are local units

there ARE local politicians.

if you really gave a shit you would go there to deal with these things. but i'm pretty sure you are just looking to complain about the pres.

making some bs comment about the pres doing his job concerning international relations as if that has to do with this.

[MrScorpio]

24. I'm saying that cops aren't killing people...

Simply because the Prez neglects to tell cops to stop killing people.

And yes, instructing Eric Holder to confront the issue is an excellent idea. That's action…

But the most effective form of action is democratic action, look at NYC. There you go right there. Put in local leaders, who have direct supervision over these police forces to get the cops to change. Change the leadership, change the culture, hold them accountable…

And really, is it necessary to accuse ME of NOT being upset about this shit? Are you serious?

[SamKnause]

35. I accused you of nothing.

I ask you a question.

You are the one accusing me of being against Obama.

You are insinuating that I don't care about this subject and I am Obama bashing.

I am against a corrupt government.

I am against police who murder people and get away without any consequences.

I really do not understand why this is not being addressed nationwide.

It does not matter.

I don't understand the majority of things that happen on this site.

If I was posting in the BOG I would understand, but I was not.

This entire site sometimes feels like the BOG.

P.S. I think BOG is the correct word, but I am not sure. I don't know what it stands for.

[JI7]

36. BOG

Yup as i thought

[SamKnause]

39. What on earth are you talking about ?

What does it stand for ?

What is up with all the mind readers on this site ?

If you want to ask me something, then ask.

[Babel_17]

79. BOG = Barack Obama Group

DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Topics » Democrats » Barack Obama (Group)

[SamKnause]

96. Thank you.

Someone told me what it meant when I first joined Democratic Underground, but I had forgotten.

Thank you very much !!!

[SamKnause]

98. Thank you.

I asked what it meant when I first joined Democratic Underground, but I had forgotten.

I thought it meant all things Obama, but that didn't make any sense.

Thank you again.

[MrScorpio]

44. But aren't you the one who first brought up Obama's name about a local news story that I posted?

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I'm sorry, but Obama is the furtherest thing from your panacea about this pressing problem. This is the exact same kind of crap that always happens whenever some DUer gets a bug up their butt about a perceived lack of apparent concern from the White House with their own pet causes.

Like it's ALL the President's fault that this shit is happening.

Jeezus. The problem is that you're neglecting to take notice of how politicized the issue would become if he were to follow your advice. It wouldn't turn out well, at all, and would probably get even worse, as the President's enemies start to shield abusive cops against him. Haven't you been paying attention of how this crap works?

Would that help your cause then, if cops are portrayed as "victims," holding the thin blue line against the big, bad, Black President?

Which is why what you're doing is precisely "Obama bashing." The funny thing is that it seems that you're striking a particularly sensitive tone in your replies whenever someone points out that this isn't about Obama. The very person that YOU brought up first.

[SamKnause]

46. Did you read my post to you on February

18th, 3:40 PM ?

[MrScorpio]

50. I had to go back and read it, Sam...

And yes, thanks for agreeing with me then. But we're having a disagreement about what Obama jumping into this mess would have about it now, and why I think it's wrong to accuse him of neglecting to deal with the problem the way that you want it happen.

I'm saying that your suggestion, based on past events, would politicize this issue to the point where more effective local efforts could face irreparable setbacks.

Again, sure… Put some more on Holder's plate about it… Have him sue and investigate a few of the worst departments out there. But remember that even the Attorney General has limitations to act effectively, whereas local action can get the best results. Think about what could happen if it appears as if local action is being trumped by the AG… It would push local efforts to fix the problems to the side.

A grass roots anti-police abuse coalition is the best way to act here, with direct democratic participation, and not some potentially politicized approach from the White House.

This is something that we can fix much better than anything coming out of the White House. We need to organize against it, we need to do it ourselves.

[SamKnause]

53. Thank you.

[7962]

51. If the President DID want to get involved, there's one way to do it to squash critics..

Let him speak on it. And let him mention a LONG list of stories like this as the bulk of his speech. It would be hard for someone to criticize a speech like that.

[treestar]

87. Only the BOG would fail to blame the President for every local shooting?

ODS must be tough in this environment. This is a board for Democrats. Trying www.freerepublic.com

[7962]

49. It SHOULD be Holder, not the President. nt

[MrScorpio]

52. I agree, it should be Holder

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But understand that local democratic effort and control will be way more effective than Holder would be any day.

[Comrade Grumpy]

127. A few exemplary federal civil rights prosecutions of killer cops would help.

That's up to the Justice Department.

[MrScorpio]

128. They tried that against the Killer Cops who shot up all of those people on that bridge post Kartrina

Judge Throws Out Conviction of Hurricane Katrina Cops Who Killed on Bridge

The family members of an unarmed man who was shot and killed on a highway bridge during the chaos of Hurricane Katrina said today that their "wound" has been reopened after a judge overturned the convictions of police officers who killed him.

The guilty verdicts against five New Orleans police officers for shooting and killing two men on the Danziger Bridge after Katrina were thrown out by federal Judge Kurt Engelhardt on Tuesday after prosecutors were found to have made anonymous comments online about the case during the trial.

The "Danziger Bridge" case became emblematic of a chaotic New Orleans rife with government and law enforcement problems in the weeks after Katrina struck the city in 2005. Five former NOPD officers, including Kenneth Bowen, Robert Gisevius, Robert Faulcon and Anthony Vallavaso were convicted for their roles in firing upon unarmed civilians on the bridge on Sept. 4, 2005.

The officers killed two individuals and injured others, including Lance Madison, who was arrested for attempting to kill police officers and later released.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-danziger-bridge-victim-overturned-conviction-reopens-wound/story?id=20290888

[Comrade Grumpy]

158. They need to keep trying. n/t

[quakerboy]

173. I think that there is more than enough credit for this to go around

Local control would help. But if you pit a local mayor against a police industry tied into national law enforcement and the MIC, you do not exactly have a fair fight.

What we need is a solid cooperative effort between local politicians and national politicians. local politicians need to start working on replacing some of the leadership and doing what they can to bring accountability to police in their communities.

Holder needs to step up with more prosecutions when the local authorities do not do their job.

And Obama needs to step up and stop the defense department from handing local police forces military gear (and possibly training) that is not appropriate for peace officers.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

111. you are so right, Mr Scorpio

Local elections matter.
Midterms matter.

Local action groups are a good thing.

[questionseverything]

121. prez is the head law enforcer of the land

holder is his hand picked head of justice department

if local law enforcement does not punish this murderess cop then the feds should step in and prosecute

instead of prosecuting nuns that show the weakness in the nuclear security chain

[MrScorpio]

126. No, the AG is the Chief Law Enforcer of the land...

Who has the power to act independently of presidential influence.

Local departments come directly under state and local control. The AG can investigate, but usually under the purview of civil rights violations and violations of federal statutes. Otherwise, it's under localities to handle their own affairs, without the feds butting in.

This is a job for local citizens to rise up a enable change, not for the feds to butt in preemptively.

The nuns, by the way, trespassed on a FEDERAL facility. The AG was perfectly within his rights to prosecute the matter.

[questionseverything]

139. executive branch,the prez enforces the law

the ag simply stands in the pres place, as do all top cabinet appointees and while the ag should act in an independent manner the pres is well with in his scope of office to prioritize the direction of prosecution

you said,,,,This is a job for local citizens to rise up a enable change, not for the feds to butt in preemptively. ///

I had said if the locals do not punish, then the feds step in...so I guess we are in agreement there

the nun did the nation a service by showing there is basically no security in the storage of the nations nuclear material...she had to wait over an hour after the alarms went off for someone to get there to arrest her....yea holder was "within his rights to prosecute" but was it a common sense decision? a worthwhile use of my taxpayer dollars? I don't think so and the 3 year sentence for a non violate offender just adds insult to injury

much rather see justice spend it's time and my money like this

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/justice/los-angeles-deputies-arrested/

[Ed Suspicious]

106. Do you think LBJ would have given a crap about the backlash? How about Teddy Roosevelt? To be

president requires being presidential. To be presidential is to lead even when things get a bit uncomfortable. But why should he be uncomfortable when the truth is on his side?

[MrScorpio]

108. LBJ, you say?

Do you mean the very same LBJ who went on national TV and announced that he would not seek, nor would he accept the Democratic Party's nomination for another term as president in 1968, due to the way that the country was torn apart, in response to his prosecution of the Vietnam War?

That LBJ?

Gee… I dunno.

And Teddy? Well, Teddy was a well known maniac, who would do anything on a dare. They broke the mold after made that crazy fucker.

But, really… When I talk about backlash, I suppose that there are two types to consider: Positive backlash and negative backlash.

Positive backlash happens when you're at a political advantage, a position of strength, with considerable popular support. Positive backlash basically bounces back onto the people giving it to you and makes them look bad. People who are politically inept usually make that kind of mistake, look at the current crop of Republicans. They're very good at handing the Prez a platter full of positive backlash that he takes advantage of. Just look at Congressional Republican polling numbers, vs Obama's. It's no contest.

On the other hand, there's Negative Backlash.

I seriously doubt that President Obama would receive any benefit from appearing as if he's attacking the Police State Establishment. Precisely because it's not political. The cop lobby, lawyers, Conservative judges and all the Right wing media types would have a field day. The Idiocracy Caucus in Congress would use the distorted depiction of an Obama who's hostile to the rule of law as extra fodder to further their aims of impeaching the guy. The Media would go nuts with it, to the exclusion of every other important story out there.

Frankly, it pretty naive to say that, just because the Prez has truth on his side it'll help him. Politics doesn't work that way, because politics in never about the truth… Politics is strictly about APPEARANCES.

IF the President does not get enough popular support for addressing the issue, even if the picture is distorted by the kind of politicization that always seem to happen whenever some controversy occurs, and it most certain will occur if he does what you're suggesting, then how will that help the cause of local, grass roots organizations and reformist politicians who are combatting the problems of out of control and abusive police departments?

It won't, it'll derail whatever is happening in positive term on the ground.

No, I don't want the President chiming on on this. I want empowered local activists, using democratic means to take the lead.

The people, they should lead.

[Scootaloo]

142. Then he should invite the fucking backlash!

Seriously, how's all that "backlash" been working out for the Republicans? Is this what we're reduced to? Hiding under the sink, holding our peckers and being afraid of what the Republicans might say?

[NobodyHere]

56. Maybe this cop will get invited to have a beer at the white house too

nt

[arely staircase]

8. well that's a dead giveaway

Your post has to be the most tastless and crass thing o have seen in some time.

[JI7]

11. posts like that show to me that the person

doesn't care about any of the issues. just looking to complain and be a martyr . feel like they are some morally superior thing because of they made such a post.

but you can be sure that they would not even go to a local council meeting or protest the local govt and police dept responsible for these things.

[Comrade Grumpy]

133. Boy, you like to toss the bull around, don't you?

The poster was asking for national leadership on the issue, and raising a valid point about hypocrisy.

And you have no way of knowing what the poster has or hasn't done despite your "you can be sure" assertion. That's just a baseless attack. Grow up.

[JI7]

150. coming from a zimmerman supporter

[Comrade Grumpy]

157. Your reply is a cheap ad hominem attack.

[SamKnause]

13. A dead give away of what exactly ????

[seveneyes]

23. Hardly

Indiscriminate killing and shooting of citizens and their pets is something the administration SHOULD speak out about.

Nothing tasteless or crass about suggesting they mention it and get it under control.

[arely staircase]

27. and their pets

Is kinda one too. Just sayin. And welcome to DU.

[JI7]

9. yeah, it's the administrations fault this happened, what BS, he got shit just for having sympathy

for trayvon's parents.

[SamKnause]

14. I have sympathy for Trayvon's parents.

I have sympathy for all the children murdered in this country.

That is not the subject we are discussing.

This subject is about our police and SWAT teams murdering people in their homes.

I don't think anybody in this country supports that !!!!!!!

[GeorgeGist]

37. Poor Barack.

[UCmeNdc]

20. Our Governor and his house representative are also fully responsible

Do not let this so called state Governor off the hook.

Why isn't he speaking out about this violence? What kind of governor will tolerate this in his state?

[SamKnause]

25. It is happening in every state in this country.

It is frightening.

It is bad enough when it is citizen killing citizen, but when it is someone wearing a badge and killing people in their homes

it is terrifying !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree, no one should be let off the hook !!!

[Fumesucker]

26. The POTUS should never comment on social issues within the USA

Republicans will criticize him if he does and that will hurt his chances of reelection.

[JI7]

29. the black president criticizing local police

Would probably make things worse for minorities.

[7962]

54. Stop making this about the "black president". I work with PLENTY of R's who talk about this a lot.

As a matter of fact, I first saw this story on FB posted by a guy who I KNOW to be a solid Republican. People from ALL SIDES are sick of this shit happening. And some of your right wingers will blame the nat'l government for the cops being this way. When I was younger I used to always give the cops the benefit of the doubt. No more. But cops in the 70s were different from cops of today.
There's a way to do it, like I mentioned above. Simply list the crimes like this; especially the ones involving children being murdered. It would be really hard to come out hard against a speech like that.

[arely staircase]

32. actually he should comment on whatever DU is on about on any given day. nt

[DeeDeeNY]

42. Funny but so true

[Orrex]

66. I await his response to Kate Upton's ride on the Vomit Comet.

[treestar]

89. there are a few DUers who seem to take the position

that he should say whatever they have prepared for him each day!

[Bodhi BloodWave]

112. and if he dosn't say or do exactly what they think should be done

then he is a sellout, caver, etc etc etc etc.

Its somewhat fascinating in a sad way

[Feral Child]

31. You do understand

that the POTUS has no control over Euharlee, GA PD, right?

This is a thinly veiled attempt to smear a sitting Democrat president.

[SamKnause]

38. You do understand that

the POTUS has no control over Venezuela or Kiev, right ?

He didn't have any trouble speaking out about police violence in those countries.

There is no veiled attempt.

I was asking an honest question.

When is something going to be done about all of the innocent people in this country being murdered by those carrying a badge ????

[Feral Child]

57. Maybe you should write a letter.

Or vote Republican.

[SamKnause]

58. Can you write ?

If so, maybe you could write a letter and vote for the Tea Party in the next elections.

[Feral Child]

67. "I know you are but what am I?"

That's the best you got?

Obviously, I can write. You're reading my words aren't you?

This has gotten nonsensical.

"A kid was shot in Euharlee. Thanks, Obama!"

All you've accomplished is wasting a few minutes of my time and exposing yourself.

[SamKnause]

71. All you have done is show that you have a reading comprehension problem.

I exposed myself by asking questions.

Oh the horror.

Sad to see that you don't think the killing of innocent citizens should be addressed by the administration.

The administration has plenty of advice on how foreign countries should handle their problems.

I guess it is too much to expect the administration to address the problems facing this country.

Keep ignoring the issues.

You seem to be very good at it.

[840high]

102. +1

[Progressive dog]

84. Our administration runs the foreign policy

of the United States. Other countries are what foreign policies are about.
The domestic police forces belong to states and local governments. The laws governing those police forces are mostly state and local. Americans get to vote for those governments, too. Those governments employ those police, and if the police are arrested, they will be tried by a jury from those localities.
In a violent, armed country of over 300 million, there are somewhere between 1 and 2 deaths by police each day. How many of those do you think the President should comment on? What legal justification should he use? Should he just jump in based on what he reads in the local paper or have the FBI investigate all deaths by cop?

[treestar]

86. This story has nothing to do with the President

Why are you using it to bash him?

He has to do a speech over every local police failure? I think we have better uses for his time.

This case sucks, and it's the cop's fault. Purely her fault.

[AtheistCrusader]

110. 'Our administration' by which you mean Executive and Department of Justice, has PROSECUTED

such things, so I think that qualifies as 'commenting'.

[Comrade Grumpy]

129. I don't know why people are jumping all over you. It's a valid point.

It appears that the dreaded Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS) may be bi-directional.

Police in this country are killing two, three, four people every day. Most of those killings are probably justified, but way too many are questionable, and some are just plain murder.

We need a national commission on law enforcement standards and practices.

And if would be nice if we had a president who would address the issue.

I have a problem with posters who say he shouldn't speak out because he got jumped on last time. It goes with the territory.

[SamKnause]

137. Thank you for your reply and input.

I gave up trying to figure out why I am being attacked.

I really don't understand how this website operates.

I thought about deleting my post, but I don't think I said anything wrong.

I am terrified of all the SWAT raids and shootings by the police.

I don't see anyone in this country addressing these issues.

How many innocent people have to be slaughtered in their homes and on the streets before I am allowed to question what is being done to stop the insanity ?

Thanks again for your input.

[uponit7771]

170. Police has been given deference they didn't earn nor deserve

[JI7]

6. that just sucks , everything about it just sucks

and that's putting it in a nice way.

[Ghost in the Machine]

10. But... but... only POLICE should have guns!!!!

According to a few posters on here!

This is a terrible tragic event that is indefensible, period. The officer *SHOULD* be fired immediately, then charged with first degree murder, and throw in an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon for pointing it at the girl and telling her to "shut up".

I feel so sorry for the family, and can't even imagine the loss, and confusion, anger and whatever other feelings they are going through. I hope they sue the shit out of the police force, the city, the county or whoever this "cop" worked for.

I'd say give her the death penalty, but I can see where life without possibility for parole at a womens prison in general population would be a good sentence for her!

Didn't even identify herself OR give a warning. unfuckingbelievable!

Ghost

[LAGC]

166. +1

I really think some of our most outspoken gun control advocates wouldn't be happy until full-blown fascism was enacted.

Disarming everyone except for the police is the necessary first step, because we all know the police are the only ones responsible enough to handle guns.

[tblue37]

181. And already had her gun out when doing a parole violation check.

WTF? Why did she have her gun at the ready?

[B Calm]

12. She might lose her job, but I doubt she'll be prosecuted for

murder. Police are above the law in the USA.

[JI7]

15. in the case of kelly thomas in california the ignorant jury set them free

the good thing is that citizens are not forgetting .

[Feral Child]

34. She might very well be offered the chance to resign.

Then she'll still be eligible to be hired by another department.

[Logical]

69. She will not lose her job! I would bet money! nt

[treestar]

90. I don't think that's true

She is likely to be prosecuted at least for involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide.

[Logical]

176. I bet you they rule it justified because her "training" made her....

Shoot when she thought she saw a weapon!

[DFW]

17. They accused the officer of "incompetence"

Right.

She should be put on trial for second-degree "incompetence," and if convicted, serve a sentence that carries the same jail time as second-degree murder.

Incompetence, my ass.

[seveneyes]

18. Someone is not telling the truth

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/attorney-teen-was-shot-having-wii-controller-hand/ndSrL/

Roupe's young life ended Friday night when Euharlee police officers showed up at the door of his home in the Eagle View Mobile Home Park to serve a probation violation warrant for his father.

A female police officer told GBI investigators that Roupe pointed a gun at her when he opened the door.
<snip>

Let's hope the truth comes out.

[treestar]

91. true, we need to slow down

as usual, we don't know what happened, and there is a tendency to assume the worst.

[SoCalMusicLover]

143. A Kid Is Dead

That is what happened. I can't think of much that could be worse.

[Jesus Malverde]

168. It could be both they have a wii controller shaped like a gun

[greyl]

175. Yep, the other controller in OP article was an editorial choice by filmingcops.com,

not documentary evidence.

[Ned Fenwick]

21. I always wondered

what living in a third-world country would be like. And since 2000 I've been experiencing it, and I really don't care that much for it. Where the cops can ignore the law, your "representative" in the legislature actually represents your worst enemy, and the bank robs you rather than the other way around. And remember when comedians used to joke about how bad life was in the Soviet Union, where the government read your mail and tapped your phone? Don't hear those jokes much any more...

[Nanjing to Seoul]

33. Cue the badge sniffers in 5...4...3...2...1...

If that kid hadn't been he holding a threatening Wii controller and did what the officer said, the officer wouldn't have feared for her life and shot the little JD in self-defense.

Cops have a hard job. We don't know what she was thinking.

Who are you to judge? I'm sure you will call the cops when you need something.

Don't demonize the police. They are just protecting us by killing us.

[Sienna86]

40. Euharlee, Georgia nt

[Jake Stern]

41. People are getting tired of it and saying "enough!"

Like the grand jury that refused to indict the guy for killing a deputy who was staging a raid.

I was taught as a child that cops were my friend and I should trust them. Now I don't trust them as far as I can see them.

[7962]

55. Exactly!! Because cops were different when we were kids.

[Bonx]

138. Yeah they were different. They were *way* more brazen in flaunting the law back then.

No vids or viral social media were gonna show up back in the 70's/80's when cops would beat your a$$ & laugh.

[7962]

172. So you think cops were worse back 30-40 years ago? no way.

Back then, you rarely saw a SWAT team, now even the smallest force walks around looking like they're going to war. I know there were problems back then but it seems like it was always happening in the big cities. Incidents in smaller towns like this were rare. The rampant use of "no knock" warrants, searching your car because your blinker was out, etc. Its the mentality of the officers hired today that has made the decline so obvious. But yes, its good that we have video all around to catch them now. Back then, they might beat your ass and laugh, today they just shoot you.

[malaise]

43. There are no words

Across the globe we have more to fear from the cops than the criminals

[MrScorpio]

45. Welcome to my world nt

[HereSince1628]

47. Her facebook page alluded to lapses in mental focus?

Following the links you end up at this story on http://opnateye.com/?p=1001

with an alleged excerpt from her facebook page

[cer7711]

59. I Keep Waiting . . .

. . . for the misandrist outrage brigade on DU to post some version of, "Why was it necessary to identify the shooter as a female officer? Why is the shooter's sex pertinent to this story?"

[Logical]

72. No shit, I expected it! nt

[Sheldon Cooper]

147. LOL

[tblue37]

60. F****** trigger-happy, cowardly cops! nt

[littlewolf]

61. this is horrific all of this needs to stop.

80 year olds being murdered in their beds 17 year olds being murdered
in their homes, a 13 year old child being threatened with a gun by
a authority figure. and so much more.

several things here:

1. first remove police immunity from prosecution, and civil litigation.
this would go a long way to making ppl stop and think.

2. more rigorous MH evaluations, both before hiring and after hiring.

3. stop the militarization of the police department.

this is just my humble opinion. but I think this would help control the situation.

[glinda]

159. +1

[TRoN33]

62. My heart is aching for boy and his family...

That cop is fricking trigger happy, period.

[GTurck]

63. Will we get it now?

There is no excuse for any of the police violence but since it was mostly aimed at young people of color many of us largely ignored it. Now it is a young white boy. Do you understand now that our police have become aggressors?

[d_r]

64. This is probably too obvious

to need to be stated, but he lived in a trailer park. This is another one of the many hazards of being born poor in the USA. Poverty is the common element of 99% of the stories about police brutality and killing.

[Logical]

70. Dunn did the same thing but was charged with murder, this cop will....

Not be but should be!

[Mojo Electro]

73. Fucking monsters!!

[JJChambers]

74. Amazing

And again, an overwhelming number of DUers blindly and without question accept the self-serving account from a family attorney and anti-police site. Self serving statements from family attorneys are no more reliable than self serving statements from the police. I've seen several instances where a story breaks about a perceived "bad" police shooting and DU erupts in immediate condemnation without any facts or evidence -- aside from a self serving story from the "victim's" family member or family attorney -- and then when evidence comes to light after the initial outrage, it turns out to be compelling and provides justification for police.

It would serve us well to reserve judgment in these cases until some facts are known.

[MrScorpio]

75. Cops are the greatest, aren't they? nt

[nomorenomore08]

76. Yeah, the kid must've done *something* wrong, right? And if not they'll just make something up!

At least you're consistent - usually people only do this with black kids.

[JJChambers]

77. No

Nothing says he must have done something wrong. But does anything say it's impossible he did? All we have how is a self serving, one sided story from a grieving family and family attorney, and a conflicting self serving story from police. Without facts or evidence, neither story should be given any credence.

[MrScorpio]

81. With the prosecutors, police leadership, political leadership, courts, police unions...

The media (for the most part) and the laws all on the side of potentially abusive and violent cops, there's no need for any cop who allegedly shot a kid holding a Wii controller to be self serving at all.

Not one bit, I'm sure.

[nomorenomore08]

101. +100

[Ikonoklast]

117. In other words, give them time to 'fix' things. Then they will present us with the 'truth'.

It's not like there are any cops who ever lied, destroyed evidence, perjured their testimony, or committed any criminal cover-ups of abuse of authority or evidence of a crime committed by them.

Ever.

[JJChambers]

118. Selective reading?

Did you miss the parts of my post stating I give no credence to self serving statements from the cops?? I just think it's stupid to give credence to self serving statements from the ambulance chaser, too.

[Ikonoklast]

140. "Ambulance chaser". Right. And you know this...how? You acquainted with the attorney?

Pejorative terms to used describe those perceived to be the enemy are employed by those trying to control the debate.

Agendas are revealed by the language we choose.

I think lots of things are stupid, including those with simple-minded agendas.

[JJChambers]

149. I choose my words carefully

An attorney making such an inflammatory statement in the immediate aftermath of this family's tragedy is quite transparent.

[Ikonoklast]

167. In other words, you have nothing. You used a derogatory description based on vapor in an attempt

to steer the discussion the way you think it should go.


An attorney representing his client's interests which also makes the police look absolutely out of control isn't something you care for, so you attempt to portray him as less than competent.


http://thelawfirmcartersville.com/


Attorney Cole Law.

The guy looks like any other small-town practicing attorney.

[MrScorpio]

146. Wow, you're really going after this dead kid's family with a vengeance

Do me a favor and check your replies to see how much support you're getting with this line of commentary. I seriously doubt that you're offering any kind of convincing argument here.

[PeaceNikki]

153. Uh... "ambulance chaser"??? You mean funeral hearse chaser? The kid is fucking dead.

[Ed Suspicious]

131. stunned by the stupidity

[Logical]

88. Cops flat out lie to cover their asses. Nt

[treestar]

92. that's true

depends if there really turns out to be a gun in the kid's hand.

[Blecht]

99. YAY, COPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, I shortened your post for you.

[liberalhistorian]

186. I dare you to use the word "self-serving" yet one

more time. If you do, I'll make a drinking game out of it and will likely be sloshed by your next post. What the hell, it's Friday night and I need to be sloshed to continue to deal with defenders-of-cops-no-matter-what.

[ladjf]

78. The policewoman should be in jail without bond

awaiting her trial for manslaughter. The Department of Justice should oversee the process to ensure that the usual
whitewashing of police brutality doesn't happen.

But, what will really happen is that the policewoman will never spend a day in prison and most likely will not be punished in any way.

These incidents are happening every day in America. No one can rightfully call the U.S. "The Land of the Free" when to rank and file police personnel is allowed to continue these types of senseless brutality without punishment.

And please, let's not start palavering about how noble our heroic policemen are. Yes, many policemen are brave protectors of the people. But, if only 1 in 20 is a rouge killer and is allowed to continue brutal behavior without punishment, all of the police department is guilty.

[Rex]

80. Wait...why the hell did she open fire without a warning?

Sounds like more if going on than just she walked in and shot him, are cops tested for illegal drugs in their system when they 'accidentally' kill someone by mistake?

Sure sounds like ALL of law enforcement needs to pee in a cup.






I am sorry young man that you will never get to grow up and lead your own life. RIP.

[MrScorpio]

83. Check this out...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=176365

[Babel_17]

82. Improperly trained, possibly poorly recruited

And boy does this bring to my mind how our military was compelled to accept violent racists into its ranks, in order to meet recruitment demands, under Bush/Cheney. Yeah, that really helped our efforts in winning over the people of Iraq.

[Harmony Blue]

85. Growing up in poor economic circumstances I learneed

that you don't trust cops. Sad that it has reached this point.

[gopiscrap]

93. typical power hungry, trigger happy fuck cop

and they wonder why so many people hate them!!!

[dotymed]

94. IMO, the violent police are not an accident.

Before they are hired, most of them take a standardized psychological test.
These tests are designed to select "the right personality type."
The people who will follow orders, disregarding any empathy for average people. They protect the "status quo" and will not hesitate to harm or kill anyone that doesn't appear "successful."
They must be cowards who enjoy bullying people.
Once the "right" individual is found, he/she then gets trained (brainwashed) to thoroughly lose any humanity that they may have had.
WHEN citizens object to the status quo, then they do not have any rights and must be physically assaulted and if they survive
charged with as many charges as possible. This discourages any retaliation by the assaulted person or their families.

They are paid mercenaries. As long as they take orders and are willing to kill/harm anyone in the name of "justice", cover up for all other cops/protectors of the status quo, then they are successful soldiers(cops).
That is why most cops are ex-military. They just change who the enemy is.
This will help facilitate the complete control that is quickly happening in America.
Soon, they will all be required to become non-unionized.
In Indiana, when mitch daniels (previously g.w. bush's budget director) became governor, his first official act was to force ALL state employees to quit their Unions.

[JJChambers]

97. Source

You're making some outlandish claims regarding the psychological examination administered by a licensed psychologist. Do you have any study or documentation to back these claims up?

[L0oniX]

105. "licensed psychologist" Bwahahahah yea right ...I took the test on a computer.

[dotymed]

162. IMO= IN MY OPINION n/t

[Egalitarian Thug]

100. Yay cops. Always looking to protect us from the scourge of video controllers.

Fuck the police.

[L0oniX]

103. Stop making excuses for these jack booted murdering pigs!

Just because they are pigs doesn't mean they should be considered to be any different than any other power hungry bully gun nut!

[valerief]

104. Cop'll probably be governor some day. Psychopathia is rewarded in the U.S. nt

[AtheistCrusader]

109. This is all Apple's fault.

Everyone knew releasing a white, plastic iGun was a mistake, but would they listen? Nooooo.

[Phentex]

113. There is simply NO excuse for this...

none. It is sickening.

[leeroysphitz]

114. God damned animals. n/t

[RedRoses323]

115. ....

[DesertDiamond]

116. As a final act of cruelty, she forces the little girl to move away from her dying brother.

[tblue37]

182. And YELLS at her to shut up! nt

[JJChambers]

119. They make realistic gun controllers

Google wii gun controller and look at the images.

[MrScorpio]

122. What "gun controller" are you talking about? nt

[X_Digger]

135. This was one of the ones linked in yesterday's thread..

http://dx.com/p/black-white-pistol-gun-controller-for-wii-remote-29212#.UwZYyIV5G1w

[MrScorpio]

145. Except that all the evidence is pointing to the kid holding a standard Wii controller in his hand

Like the one I posted in my OP.

Since when does that thing look like a gun?

[X_Digger]

152. Right, just thought I'd provide the link/image from yesterday's thread.

I'm sure we'll get a better idea of what went on when the police report, etc start to trickle out. In the video attached to yesterday's OP, one neighbor spoke about a bb gun, so there does appear to be some confusion (in the media at least.)

[cui bono]

164. One generally only uses a controller like that for a shooter game, not to watch a movie.

I suppose he could have had one of those gun controller mods, but I highly doubt he used it to threaten the officer in any way. It would have been being held at his side, not pointed at her.

As to the bb gun, a neighbor said he supposedly had a bb gun, he did not see anything, that was hearsay. The fact that police didn't say they found a weapon seems to indicate there was none. I'm quite sure they would put that info out immediately if it were the case.

Neighbor Ken Yates said that he saw the female officer immediately after Roupe was killed and described her as being visibly distraught.

“This is tragic,” Yates told the station. “She came out of this house. She put her head in her hands and she was sobbing. Supposedly, he opened the door with a BB gun and in my opinion I think he was playing a game with his neighborhood buddies.”

Tia Howard, another neighbor, told WSB that she also came over to the house immediately after the shooting. Howard says she was told that “there was a Wii remote in his hand and [the officer] shot him.”

Officials did not disclose if a weapon was found on the scene.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/attorney-georgia-teen-killed-by-cop-was-holding-wii-controller/

[Comrade Grumpy]

132. Shooting a kid holding a gun controlled with no warning sounds like a manslaughter charge to me.

Of course, this is a cop who did the killing, so probably not.

I'm sure it was a terrible accident and the cop feels bad, but the kid is still dead because of her mistake. If it were you or I who did this, we'd be in jail right now.

[Logical]

165. In a real world you are right. Not in ours. n-t

[BuelahWitch]

136. It wasn't one of the gun controllers

just a normal wii controller. You're the only one saying it was a gun controller. Don't you think you better gets some "facts" first?

[Blue_In_AK]

120. I read about this yesterday.

Horrifying story.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

125. this is sick

[LittleBlue]

130. This is like something you read about a totalitarian state

We are becoming a police state, unfortunately.

RIP

[MrScorpio]

148. It's something like this that forces me to say out loud, what I really think about the police...

That my own innate sense of self-preservation is quite compelling enough for me to regard the police as nothing more than a gang of violent and self-entitled bullies who are so cowardly that, if they'd use deadly force at the drop of a hat on a five pound dog, my own safety is at risk anytime they're within eyesight. The first rule would be to automatically regard them as unrepentant liars and completely untrustworthy, only because it's quite clear that unless there's compelling video and audio evidence available to me, they'd try to get away with anything and most probably would.

That is, unless they could prove themselves otherwise.

But most of all, I should have absolutely nothing to do with them, unless it's under the most direst of circumstances. And even then, I don't want anything to do with them.

To anyone who would respond with something like, "Just wait until you're in trouble and needed help and see if you'll feel the same way about the police then," my response is this: The police are not my friends, they have never been my friends, and as a Black man living in America, I seriously doubt if any of them ever want to be my friend. These are people who are immersed in the worst of human nature, day in and day out, and most of them have their own humanity ruined by that experience. So no, I don't want to invite any armed, arrogant and potentially violent person into my own life.

My belief is that any cop's first instinct is to come up with some half-assed reason (or no reason at all) to either beat the shit out of you over and/or find something to arrest you for, as simply the next stage after their penchant for arbitrary harassment. I'm absolutely certain that many a cop regard that sort of behavior as a sport that they are entitled to enjoy.

You have no right, including the right to your own life, that no cop is bound to respect, under just about any circumstance that they deem available.

Again, that's why I want nothing to do with cops… Ever. I care way more about myself than they'd ever would.

[yuiyoshida]

151. OMG....

Telling the baby sister to "Shut up!"... Okay, I have heard of Asshole cops, but this one takes the cake. She is new poster child for the POLICE STATE in America.

[Enthusiast]

155. Just one of a very tiny number of bad apples.

[Jefferson23]

160. UPDATE February 19: The OP-NAT EYE has learned the name of the killer cop: Beth Daniel-Gatny, aka

aka Nancy B. Gatny.



e tried to confirm this with the Euharlee Police, but were told that information is not being made available. But there are only two female cops on the force and Gatny’s photo has been removed from the Euharlee Police website. She also had a Facebook page that was taken down. A cached screenshot from a Facebook note she wrote, however, suggests she on psychiatric medication and not mentally stable.

http://opnateye.com/?p=1001

[Jefferson23]

161. Horrific, absolutely horrific..poor kid and his dear sister. n/t

[cprise]

163. Cops: "We're fighting a war"

https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform-free-speech-technology-and-liberty/too-many-cops-are-told-theyre-soldiers

They're hopped-up on fear and a lust for punishment. Their mindset is demonstrably not civilian (anymore).

[tomm2thumbs]

169. dreadful

nt

[liberalmuse]

171. Oh my god.

No fucking words.

[Liberal_in_LA]

174. kick

[Kennah]

177. Another innocent person murdered by the Blue Gang

If he had a BB gun, or a realistic looking game controller in his hand, it would have been seized as evidence and the police would now be displaying it prominently. Smelling bullshit story from the police. It remains to be seen if anyone gets prosecuted, but I'm betting against it.