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"Something terrible has happened to the soul of the Republican Party..." (Original Post) kentuck Feb 2014 OP
And there I was thinking Republicans never had soul. PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #1
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Feb 2014 #2
yes they did.... madrchsod Feb 2014 #7
agreed rtracey Feb 2014 #15
Well, Ike was sure right about the MIC but he has this wrong. pocoloco Feb 2014 #20
rtracey Diclotican Feb 2014 #25
I was just starting school in1952 and my mom was active in local Democratic politics. maddiemom Feb 2014 #57
Return Balance to the force? PatrynXX Feb 2014 #17
The real elephant is DEAD Plucketeer Feb 2014 #19
Yeah Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #29
+1 lark Feb 2014 #63
Not since 1876. caseymoz Feb 2014 #34
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2014 #38
Actually, the progressives mostly were found defacto7 Feb 2014 #45
Thanks... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2014 #65
Well not so fast.... defacto7 Feb 2014 #44
They had a soul once upon a time, before they sold it to the Koch Brothers. hedda_foil Feb 2014 #43
Just think of mgardener Feb 2014 #49
The glee has long been there. They just aren't bothering to pretend otherwise now. Armstead Feb 2014 #3
Agreed. FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #4
said lady macbeth, tiny elvis Feb 2014 #32
Good one. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Feb 2014 #47
A real .... Plucketeer Feb 2014 #18
soul? nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #5
They never had a soul. n/t GoCubsGo Feb 2014 #6
They had a soul when they championed the end of slavery. another_liberal Feb 2014 #8
Today's republicans have no claim to that legacy... rwsanders Feb 2014 #11
Agreed on that! another_liberal Feb 2014 #13
LOL times a thousand. Eisenhower was their last, best president. Even Nixon was maddiemom Feb 2014 #59
Yes please send a few dollars Graysons way. Bluegene Feb 2014 #60
In a word BlueinOhio Feb 2014 #9
Now they don't hide anything, sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #10
WHAT soul? calimary Feb 2014 #12
To be fair, the Democratic Party could use a new slogan. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #14
How about "Vote for the cowards, not the sociopaths"? n/t eridani Feb 2014 #51
lol fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #64
Radioactive death cult (NT) The Wizard Feb 2014 #16
Maybe it should be "sole," you know, as in swimming with the fishes. mountain grammy Feb 2014 #21
I was thinking along the line of... Oilwellian Feb 2014 #55
True that, and they've stepped in it. mountain grammy Feb 2014 #56
They have stopped pretending they care. alfredo Feb 2014 #22
Remote control - that's all it could be Ned Fenwick Feb 2014 #23
They have decided to follow Ayn Rand. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #24
It has a soul? VA_Jill Feb 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #27
, blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #28
They are terrified of the modern world Politicub Feb 2014 #30
Two of their heroes: Ayn Rand and Rush Limbaugh. Kingofalldems Feb 2014 #31
What soul Pakid Feb 2014 #33
Offering them up a little more sole: chknltl Feb 2014 #35
+ 100000000000000000000 russspeakeasy Feb 2014 #36
They haven't had a soul in a long time. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #37
Something terrible has happened to the Republican... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #39
A Rabid Animal Frothing at The Mouth Where Any Other Demography Would have It Laid Down.... bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #40
there's a graphic that hits home. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #41
Soul? ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #42
There's a lot of universal "they" going on. defacto7 Feb 2014 #46
I wasn't aware that the Reeps ever had a soul. ananda Feb 2014 #48
I cannot STAND today's republicans. They are appalling. /nt mwb970 Feb 2014 #50
Krugman assumed they have a soul liberal N proud Feb 2014 #52
Yep. Obsessed with punishments, putting up red tape against the poor, creating fear and doubt, etc. ck4829 Feb 2014 #53
The last stage of human depravity My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #54
this, and lady mcbeth's quote, pretty well sum up the current state of affairs. niyad Feb 2014 #58
Republican Party never had a soul but it has lots of soles. valerief Feb 2014 #61
GOP: The Party of Joffrey jmondine Feb 2014 #62

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
7. yes they did....
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:57 PM
Feb 2014

there has been many republicans in the past who had a soul.

today's republicans are a whole different story.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
15. agreed
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:58 PM
Feb 2014

Look at Eisenhower, and his accomplishments, including sticking up for the seniors. Besides the national highway system, he was very big in the social aspect of this country..this best quote of his presidency (IMO) is...

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower, l952-----

 

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)
20. Well, Ike was sure right about the MIC but he has this wrong.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 06:00 PM
Feb 2014

The splinter group is in control and they are not about to give it up.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
25. rtracey
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 07:24 PM
Feb 2014

rtracey

It was posible true - in the 1950s, that is was a few ones - who was negligible and stupid - today they are many - but still stupid...

Diclotican

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
57. I was just starting school in1952 and my mom was active in local Democratic politics.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:19 AM
Feb 2014

We lived in an extremely Republican area and my dad, who voted for the Democrats, always kept quiet and registered Republican for employment reasons (I know, WTF?). If I remember correctly, and discussed when older, both the Democrats and Republicans were courting Ike. When he went Republican my mom automatically wrote him off as one of the "bad guys." At the time it was my first memory of political craziness. I was way more liberal than my parents in the late sixties/early seventies. Over the years I have voted for local and state level Repubs. These days? Not a chance. The national party has gotten so repulsive that only those who are dropping away deserve voter consideration.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
17. Return Balance to the force?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

Republicans didn't used to attack each other either. They are so utterly right wing right now things could go hard left and I'm not hard left either. Hard Right and Hard Left both not good. Having a party with zero moderates ... well as Biden says there is no Republican Party anymore.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
19. The real elephant is DEAD
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:58 PM
Feb 2014

All that's left is an elephant costume with a Tea-Partier in the front half and a Corker CONservative to fill out the ass end!

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
34. Not since 1876.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:26 PM
Feb 2014

The Gilded Age corrupted the Republican Party, and it has never been a party with principles since.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
38. Yep...
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:36 AM
Feb 2014

... I realized that over 10 years ago. Massive corruption under Grant and those that followed, sent all the, "decent", Republicans of that time towards the Democratic Party and other progressive groups.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
45. Actually, the progressives mostly were found
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:43 AM
Feb 2014

on the Republican side at the turn of the 20th century. There were strong industrialist cronies on both the Democratic and Republican side and there were progressives on both as well. But the progressive push that lead to the first real reigning in of the out of control industrialists and the first hint of social welfare came from the Republicans via Teddy Roosevelt. His "Square Deal" policy was meant to make sure workers were treated fairly and humanely by the corporatists (trusts). It was very much an idea that was reflected the "New Deal" of Franklin Roosevelt during the depression. There was not much to say about the Democrats of that period as they were divided between corrupt labor shills owned by the industrialists and a weak progressive flank that backed Roosevelt.

Of course a lot changed later but neither the Republican party nor the Democratic party resembled anything we know by those names now.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
43. They had a soul once upon a time, before they sold it to the Koch Brothers.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:21 AM
Feb 2014

They got top dollar for it, though. With residuals.

mgardener

(1,817 posts)
49. Just think of
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 08:31 AM
Feb 2014

Abraham Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt

It was once a party of high ideals. No longer. It is rotten to the core.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
8. They had a soul when they championed the end of slavery.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:13 PM
Feb 2014

That was, of course, a century and a half in the past.

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)
11. Today's republicans have no claim to that legacy...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:31 PM
Feb 2014

First, I saw a brilliant post somewhere that said "we never ended slavery, we just exported it", and today's republicans are quite OK with that. Or did I miss an uproar from the right over the deaths in the factory in Bangladesh?
Second, I think if they try to claim that legacy, they should have to explain why they refuse to acknowledge some of their leaders between now and then. What I mean is, how many of them go around quoting Eisenhower? Remember the last republican presidential primary debate? Then looked like a bunch of morons when they were asked about their favorite past president and like a bunch of parrots (sorry for the insult parrot lovers), they all squawked "Ronald Reagan". So Reagan was better than Eisenhower? An actor better than the man who helped win WW2? What a bunch of losers.
I'm tired of them trying to claim the legacy of Lincoln on one hand and promoting death, destruction for the 99% and extreme wealth for the 1%.
We need more like Grayson and Sanders who will pin them down and show them for what they are.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
59. LOL times a thousand. Eisenhower was their last, best president. Even Nixon was
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:34 AM
Feb 2014

better for the country than St. Ronnie. Making Reagan their saint over the last couple decades says it all for the Republican party: so pathetic that it seems they may finally be backing off a bit with the Reagan worship.

Bluegene

(35 posts)
60. Yes please send a few dollars Graysons way.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:19 PM
Feb 2014

Yes please send a few dollars Graysons way. The 1% realizes how smart he is and is really giving him a run. So even if it is $5 or $10 every little bit helps.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
10. Now they don't hide anything,
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:24 PM
Feb 2014

on the contrary they are proud of ruining the country. I hope, that they will not win in 14 or 16; however, if they should do do, I bet that they will start spending again as under Reagan or W.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
12. WHAT soul?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:35 PM
Feb 2014

Seems to me this is evidence enough that some of these people have no soul at all. Certainly no heart!

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
14. To be fair, the Democratic Party could use a new slogan.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:38 PM
Feb 2014

Considering how the party has slid to the right too I would suggest:

VOTE DEMOCRAT > We're just like the Republicans you used to vote for without the crazies.

To long?

Ned Fenwick

(25 posts)
23. Remote control - that's all it could be
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 06:10 PM
Feb 2014

Yes, they look foolish and childish, and at times embarrass themselves by being self-contradictory, but I think these guys are doing this mystifying, destructive, self-destructive stuff because they have this sword hanging over their heads - that is, the tons of money of the traitorous, amoral super-rich who hate and have contempt for everybody else. You know who they are. These republican politicians have no choice. They have to do what they're told. It's no secret. They're what E. Warren calls captured.

VA_Jill

(9,983 posts)
26. It has a soul?
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 07:29 PM
Feb 2014

Well, maybe it did once. It sold it long ago in exchange for power. Maybe sometime around 1972.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
30. They are terrified of the modern world
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:12 PM
Feb 2014

So they constantly try to destroy it and create as much suffering as possible.

And the poor in the red states that cast their lot with the GOP cry out for more boots to the face.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
39. Something terrible has happened to the Republican...
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:59 AM
Feb 2014

...party all right - people vote for their candidates.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
46. There's a lot of universal "they" going on.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:53 AM
Feb 2014

If "they" is the "they" of the last couple of decades... understood. But capping either party with the same hat historically is absurd. What we have now is what we have now. What was before on either side is comparing apples and asparagus. There's no congruency.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
53. Yep. Obsessed with punishments, putting up red tape against the poor, creating fear and doubt, etc.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 09:48 AM
Feb 2014

"More skin in the game" is just one codeword for this sadism they now preach.

K&R.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
54. The last stage of human depravity
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:20 AM
Feb 2014

"It is said that he had arrived at the last stage of human depravity, when cruelty becomes pleasing for it's own sake, when the sight of pain, as pain, where no advantage is to be gained, no offense punished, no danger averted, is an agreeable excitement." -Thomas Babington Macaulay

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