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William769

(55,147 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:50 PM Feb 2014

Kerry: U.S. launching new effort to combat anti-gay laws worldwide



WASHINGTON — Troubled by an anti-gay movement in Uganda and across much of the world, the U.S. is launching a new effort to combat what Secretary of State John Kerry described Wednesday as a threat to human rights.

Comparing a harsh Uganda law to oppressive government crackdowns on German Jews in the 1930s and black South Africans during apartheid, Kerry said he was going to direct American ambassadors to look at “how we deal with this human rights challenge on a global basis.”

He said 80 nations worldwide have anti-gay laws on some levels, and he called the one in Uganda — which punishes gay sex with up to life in prison — “atrocious” and “flat out morally wrong.”

“You could change the focus of this legislation to black or Jewish, and you could be in 1930s Germany, or you could be in 1950s or ’60s apartheid South Africa,” Kerry told reporters during a 55-minute question-and-answer session at the State Department. “It was wrong there, egregiously, in both places, and it is wrong here.”

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/02/kerry-u-s-launching-new-effort-to-combat-anti-gay-laws-worldwide/

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Kerry: U.S. launching new effort to combat anti-gay laws worldwide (Original Post) William769 Feb 2014 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #1
K&R nt brer cat Feb 2014 #2
This is going to piss some people off........and I couldn't be happier about it. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #3
Kerry should go to Arizona and Georgia. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #4
OFFS. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #5
Glad you don't speak for my community. nt William769 Feb 2014 #7
We have anti-gay laws right here in the good ole USofA also. Why the attitude? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #8
Do you need a civics class 101? William769 Feb 2014 #9
You guys always speak in riddles. I am going to guess your point. You are saying that rhett o rick Feb 2014 #10
You guys? That rich! William769 Feb 2014 #14
Among the things you may learn in a civics class that william has suggested: geek tragedy Feb 2014 #15
Thank you for such a kind remark. William769 Feb 2014 #16
. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #17
And none of that addresses my question. Why isnt the admin taking a stronger stand rhett o rick Feb 2014 #18
For one, because the pressure is much more effective when it comes from business geek tragedy Feb 2014 #19
so we shouldn't have done anything in WWII because minorities were treated like shit JI7 Feb 2014 #20
Send ProSense Feb 2014 #11
Did I step into the BOG or something? I have no idea what you are talking about. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #12
BOG? You stepped ProSense Feb 2014 #13
That picture is heartbreaking-sweet, innocent faces cheering on genocidal legislation nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #6

William769

(55,147 posts)
9. Do you need a civics class 101?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:06 PM
Feb 2014

Seems like you do. I give attitude where attitude is deserved.

I didn't ask to be a princess but if the crown fits...

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
10. You guys always speak in riddles. I am going to guess your point. You are saying that
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:09 PM
Feb 2014

the Obama administration has no influence in the USofA regarding gay rights? Is that what you are trying to so cleverly say?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. Among the things you may learn in a civics class that william has suggested:
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:15 PM
Feb 2014

1) Vetoing a bill means it doesn't become law (unless it is overridden);
2) The Secretary of State doesn't conduct diplomacy with the United States, but rather on its behalf (Arizona is in the US, remember);
3) Presidents can advocate for things domestically AND internationally at the same time;
4) GLBT people in Africa and Russia are human beings too

bonus material from reading the headlines:

5) GLBT advocates like william are kicking ass all over the country on behalf of their communities' human rights and are winning the battle of public opinion across the country--you may want to respect their opinion on what the WH and anyone else is doing

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. And none of that addresses my question. Why isnt the admin taking a stronger stand
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:33 PM
Feb 2014

on the situation in Az and Georgia? I appreciate what they are doing around the globe, well except for the slave supporting TPP.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. For one, because the pressure is much more effective when it comes from business
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:38 PM
Feb 2014

and Republican groups like the Chamber of Commerce. Do you really think Barack Obama speaking out against a bill will make Republicans in Arizona and Georgia more likely to vote it down or veto it?

Shit, George Takei was better able to influence it than Barack Obama would have been. The GLBT civil rights movement has become one that transcends partisan politics.

And if that's not enough reason, consider the practicality of the administration speaking out against every anti-GLBT, anti-woman, racist law being considered in every legislature in the country.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
20. so we shouldn't have done anything in WWII because minorities were treated like shit
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:42 AM
Feb 2014

in the US at the time.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. Did I step into the BOG or something? I have no idea what you are talking about.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:15 PM
Feb 2014

If you havent noticed there are a number of states that are pushing anti-gay laws.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. BOG? You stepped
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:17 PM
Feb 2014

"Did I step into the BOG or something? I have no idea what you are talking about. If you havent noticed there are a number of states that are pushing anti-gay laws."

...into something that appears to be bitter.

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