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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 10:26 AM Feb 2014

How Does this shit even happen? School Superintendent's salary of $660,000

while teacher in same district has to use her own money to buy paper for her students.

Residents demanded answers at an emergency meeting in Lawndale Tuesday night after a series of reports revealed an excessive amount of compensation for the superintendent of the Centinela Valley Union High School District.

KCAL9’s Dave Bryan reports that Jose Fernandez’s total compensation last year was $663,000, all for running a district of three high schools with only about 6,500 students.

The school district also floated a loan of more than $900,000 for Fernandez at 2 percent interest over 40 years at a time when he had already declared bankruptcy, Bryan reported.

<snip>

Hawthorne High School teacher Caryn Charles said the district is giving lavish loans and huge salaries to the superintendent when she has to pay to buy paper for her students.

“It’s really embarrassing as a teacher that we don’t have any paper at our department at our school. With all due respect to all of you, but it’s embarrassing when I have to go to Office Depot and buy paper, and I read that other people don’t have to worry about things like that,” she said.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/02/25/residents-outraged-over-centinela-valley-superintendents-excessive-pay

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How Does this shit even happen? School Superintendent's salary of $660,000 (Original Post) cali Feb 2014 OP
You'd be surprised at how high the compensation can be Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #1
but PG has 206 schools and 125,000 students. DebJ Feb 2014 #3
Apathy and no regard for how taxes are spent seveneyes Feb 2014 #2
But but we are getting a deal because they can make more in the private sector! jsr Feb 2014 #8
But do you know who we would get to apply for these jobs if we capped the salary at $150,000? A Simple Game Feb 2014 #4
Exactly. jsr Feb 2014 #6
Yes. But if you offer the money, who would say no? No one. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #19
Damn. You nailed it. Not Sure Feb 2014 #24
A side effect of spiralling executive pay in the private sector JHB Feb 2014 #5
That district serves a community that LibDemAlways Feb 2014 #7
My children go the school in Lawndale Iliyah Feb 2014 #9
Thieving bastards. nt valerief Feb 2014 #10
Thought it might be the head coach libodem Feb 2014 #11
That would probably be UCLA basketball coach Ben Howland progressoid Feb 2014 #12
Yep libodem Feb 2014 #17
Our District was paying almost $450,000 Dustlawyer Feb 2014 #13
And it's just as bad in small communities as well. progressoid Feb 2014 #14
Because a lot of the people running schools are idiots. Lobo27 Feb 2014 #15
I am from Texas AnalystInParadise Feb 2014 #26
Well even if the city is wealthy... Lobo27 Feb 2014 #27
How does it happen? surrealAmerican Feb 2014 #16
What the hell?? Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #18
It's the "CEO earned it" mindset.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #21
Only in America. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #20
Yep only in America. zeemike Feb 2014 #23
America also models their educational system to be adversarial.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #25
Looks like part of a special group of schools. California Partnership Academies. Had 3 yrs to prove madfloridian Feb 2014 #22

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. You'd be surprised at how high the compensation can be
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 10:32 AM
Feb 2014

In some systems, there isn't a "hard" number for superintendent salary, so a potential outside candidate who is in demand can negotiate something a little higher...

Prince George's Co. (Maryland) schools were paying their superintendent like $425k annually, and that was 10 years ago...

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
3. but PG has 206 schools and 125,000 students.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 10:48 AM
Feb 2014

A Superintendent where I live in Pennsyltuckey makes $125,000 plus generous benefits
for one high school, and four k-8 schools. The high school graduating classes are less
than 400 students. Per student, that's about 10 times more cost.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
2. Apathy and no regard for how taxes are spent
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 10:42 AM
Feb 2014

If more people just made a little bit of noise about such excess, this kind of outrageous spending would not be tolerated. All excessive public salaries should go before a citizen review board.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
8. But but we are getting a deal because they can make more in the private sector!
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:27 AM
Feb 2014

Let them find a job in the private sector.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
4. But do you know who we would get to apply for these jobs if we capped the salary at $150,000?
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:10 AM
Feb 2014

THE VERY SAME PEOPLE! And I still doubt that most would be worth the money.

Paying these outrageous salaries makes no sense at all.

The same is true for company CEOs. Cap the salary at $200,000 and you would still get the same people applying, and most still wouldn't be worth the money.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Yes. But if you offer the money, who would say no? No one.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:47 PM
Feb 2014

People who demand or accept that kind of money from a community to manage the schools don't care about the schools.

JHB

(37,162 posts)
5. A side effect of spiralling executive pay in the private sector
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:20 AM
Feb 2014

As corporate executive compensation has gone up and up, it normalized bloating of pay for administrators of "comparatively sized organizations" across the board: foundations, nonprofits, university admin, and public school system administrators.

All in the name of "attracting the best people", even when the ones who get the jobs clearly are not.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
7. That district serves a community that
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

is far from wealthy, and the money spent on that outrageous salary and extra perks is money being taken away from students and teachers. That superintendent sounds like a crook. I hope the public keeps the pressure up and that positive change is coming soon.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. My children go the school in Lawndale
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:31 AM
Feb 2014

good school district but alas that is totally abuse and he will be fired, let go or resign with I hope with detail investigation into how this happened.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
11. Thought it might be the head coach
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:35 AM
Feb 2014

But that is usually college football and they are the highest paid person in the state.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
12. That would probably be UCLA basketball coach Ben Howland
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:05 PM
Feb 2014
UCLA basketball coach Ben Howland earned $2,234,191 in gross pay last year, UC Berkeley's Jeff Tedford earned $2,146,581 before being fired in December after a 3 win-9 loss season. The university said their salaries come from non-state funds.

Number two on the list - and the top paid UC faculty member - is UCLA’s world renown liver transplant surgeon Ronald Busuttil. He earned $2,232,151 in gross pay last year. A big part of his salary, comes from his clinical practice, according to UC.

The university's highest profile employee, incoming president Janet Napolitano, won't be anywhere near that. She'll probably come in as the 180th highest paid when she starts in the fall, at a salary of $570,000. The university includes multiple search options in its salary database.

The university made the case in this report that many of its workers are paid significantly below market. Pay was frozen for all UC employees in 2008. It was lifted a couple of years later.

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/education/2013/07/31/14406/three-coaches-on-university-of-california-top-5-pa/

libodem

(19,288 posts)
17. Yep
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:23 PM
Feb 2014

Did you see the graphic that floated around here of each states' highest paid employee? It was a coach in every state, if I'm not mistaken. Sad priorities in this modern world.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
13. Our District was paying almost $450,000
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:10 PM
Feb 2014

for our Superintendant. He had a new huge stadium built named after himself while starting teachers make $28,000 and have to pay out of pocket for a lot of stuff.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
14. And it's just as bad in small communities as well.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:10 PM
Feb 2014

Ironically, many Sups are often tasked with trimming the budget.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
15. Because a lot of the people running schools are idiots.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

Here in Texas small school district built a 60mil football stadium. Now the stadium is closed because it was built like shit.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
26. I am from Texas
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

Allen is not a small school district. The median household income of Allen in over 90,000 dollars, the appraised value of Allen's SCHOOL property is 7 BILLION dollars and the district has 19,000 students. That is not a small district. It has 6,000!!!!! students in grades 9-12 making it one of the largest schools in Texas The marching band is the largest in the WORLD!!!!! with over 750 members, Allen is a powerhouse in academics athletics and arts......... I am not defending the stadium, but get your freaking facts right, that is not a small district, that is the Los Angeles of school districts........The stadium is a monstrosity of waste, but that town and that district are not small in any way shape or form.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
27. Well even if the city is wealthy...
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 04:10 PM
Feb 2014

I consider a city with less 90k in population small or medium if you will.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
16. How does it happen?
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:21 PM
Feb 2014

That's a question to ask the school board. This is their call.

It not only matters who you vote for in those local elections, you have to pay attention to what they do after they're elected.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
18. What the hell??
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:27 PM
Feb 2014
The school district also floated a loan of more than $900,000 for Fernandez at 2 percent interest over 40 years at a time when he had already declared bankruptcy, Bryan reported.


They gave him nearly a million dollars at 2% over 40 years, after he had declared bankruptcy?? If I was a taxpayer in this district I would be stocking up on torches and pitchforks. Unbelieveable.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
23. Yep only in America.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:42 PM
Feb 2014

The country with the best education system is Findland...and they pay their teachers like doctors...and are highly respected by the public...there is a lesson in that.
You want good education, reward the bottom not the top...because that is where it happens.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
25. America also models their educational system to be adversarial....
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:13 PM
Feb 2014

You have the totally absurd situation of a management vs union WAR going on to the point where the management part forgets they are NOT supposed to be working for "the taxpayers" but for the students to provided them with the best education possible. That means you aren't supposed to be trying to crack down on costs and blaming teachers for the arrogance of expecting a paycheck.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
22. Looks like part of a special group of schools. California Partnership Academies. Had 3 yrs to prove
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:03 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.centinela.k12.ca.us/pdf/CVUHSD%20Academies%20Brochure.pdf

The Centinela Valley Union High School District continues to make historic
gains in student achievement. Our commitment to college and career
readiness is evident in our award-winning California Partnership Academy
programs and the internationally recognized International Baccalaureate
(IB) Diploma Program, planned for Hawthorne in 2013-14. The strength of
the district and the community it serves has been recently reinforced with
the passage of a parcel tax in November 2012, providing further support for
the district’s unprecedented growth


Here is a long article about those schools. Is it a regular traditional public high school? I can't tell for sure.

http://edsource.org/today/2012/new-2-year-lease-on-life-for-163-partnership-academies/20476

From 2012

Financially threatened high school career academies will get a lifeline and new career tech programs will get a lift, now that Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation committing $68 million for those and related projects over the next two years.

SB 1070 will sustain the career technology programs in high schools and community colleges that were to lose their funding and authorization at the end of this fiscal year in June. Now they will have additional time, and the Legislature will have two more years, to consider their future. The bill’s author is Senate President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, who has been a CTE champion in the Legislature.

The chief beneficiary will be 163 California Partnership Academies, about a third of the total 503 in the state, that were started three years ago under another bill that Steinberg sponsored. Their funding will continue through June 2015.

Partnership Academies are small three-year schools within comprehensive high schools that offer career and college opportunities: college prep courses, academic counseling, job internships, and career training in areas ranging from engineering and architecture to manufacturing, agriculture, and health science. They must serve primarily minority students who have done poorly in school. Though their track record is good – with significantly higher graduation and college admission rates than similar students statewide – their future was in doubt without secure funding, even though the amount per school in state aid ($59,000, to support a coordinator’s time and collaborative planning among Academy teachers) is not huge. And not all will get money the second year, when funding shrinks from $48 million to $20 million. They’ll have to compete with data showing outcomes, such as attendance and graduation rates and readiness for the next stage at a community college. Most of the grants under SB 1070 will be competitive, administered by the California Department of Education and the Community Colleges Chancellor’s Office.

“If a Partnership Academy can demonstrate good performance, it will get the money,” said Patrick Ainsworth, director of the Career and College Transition Division of the state Education Department. “This is one of the few performance-based systems.”


Is this a part of the education reform movement? Hard to tell.
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