forty thousand XL protesers in Washington DC this Sunday

[Ichingcarpenter]

Around 40,000 people gathered on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., on Sunday to give President Obama a clear message: the Keystone XL pipeline isn’t welcome here.

The four-hour event began at the Washington Monument, where politicians and leaders of various eco-groups gave motivational speeches to the crowd.

“We have an obligation to our one true Mother,” said Crystal Lameman, a Beaver Lake Cree Nation activist. “We take care of her, she’ll take care of us, providing and nurturing. But when we ignore that and choose greed and wealth and economy that is not stable, she will fight back.”


http://redalertpolitics.com/2013/02/17/forward-on-climate-protest-marches-on-national-mall-demands-action-from-obama/


http://www.politico.com/gallery/2014/03/keystone-xl-protest-in-washington/001660-023630.html


News on twitter

https://twitter.com/search?q=xldissent





I GUESS ITS NOT ON YOUR TV IS IT?

[Ichingcarpenter]

1. Meanwhile......... keep watching your distractions

thank you young people!!

[malaise]

2. K & R

Didn't even know this took place

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. DU use to be an activist place

now its just almost pitiful.

[malaise]

5. We've been invaded

I swear - remember the good old days

[socialist_n_TN]

39. Because we WERE an activist place is the REASON we've been invaded......

It happened immediately after the Wisconsin uprising in 2011. We got the reputation as a (and maybe THE) "go-to" spot for news and activist info ABOUT the uprising. After that, we started getting this influx of Democratic Corporatists trying to herd us into "approved" channels.

[malaise]

41. Ding ding we have a winner

100% correct

[Enthusiast]

60. Paid sockpuppets.

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[socialist_n_TN]

65. Pretty much. Of course, there are probably a group of.......

Democratic Corporatists who are not paid sock puppets too, but really believe in the neo-liberal claptrap that we've been fed from the leadership of BOTH parties for the last 40 years or so.

Either way, they're here to take away the bottom-up "people power" that we showed during that Wisconsin uprising. You can't have people getting involved in anything other than pulling that voting lever and maybe phone banking for the "serious ones" who know what's best for the rest of us. BTW, that last part was .

Power independent of Party affiliation is WAY too dangerous not to moderate.

[The Straight Story]

18. Was discussing this with some activists from Canada on FB

On DU have been busy answering charges I am not aware that white people have had it better than other races in the US, fighting for the right to hold open a door without having to fill out a questionnaire first, and dodging covers of magazines because I don't know which ones to be upset about enough (actually, all photos are suspect now).

I doubt my Canadian friends would be all that welcome here. The are Indian and believe in all sorts of things here others call woo. From their own tribal medicine to 'being stupid/ignorant because they believe in invisible sky beings'.

The 'activism' on DU is trying to 'educate' other du'ers about things they already know about usually, or to try to shame them into a corner until they accept that there is only one possible religion, err belief, and that if you don't agree on every single point you hate others and don't care about their issues.

It is like a soap opera that others come here to watch. Whereas they used to come to get news and information and ideas.

We have seen the enemy on DU, and it is almost everyone on DU.

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. There are serious problems with the US enviroment

that are getting worse and being ignored, the rest of the world sees it but fracking, coal ash,water safety, FDA maleficence to corporate powers will wake them up once they are in their graves....

Zombies

&ntz=1

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence.
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin'
Heart is taking over
When the violence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying..

[swilton]

31. The biggest problem that I see

is not among those that you mentioned - though they are significant.

The biggest problem that I see drives the others and that's consumerism and the worship of material wealth...In this, we stand 'above' the rest of the world.

[ReRe]

38. Seriously

[dogindia]

3. many being arrested at the White House

twitter #NoKXL

[scarletwoman]

6. Not on NPR, either. (I don't have TV)

And until I saw your OP, it wasn't on DU, either.

DU is too busy worrying about Ukraine, and about whether other DUers don't hate Putin sufficiently.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. The Protest Plans were on Democracy Now and Bill Moyers

A week ago....... you know those traitor sites.

I don't have a TV either but do have the internet
and the news on the internet about this is sparse.........gee I wonder why?

[scarletwoman]

10. My internet is on dialup - so I can't stream anything, not audio, not video.

For years I've relied on DU for news about activism - I guess those days are gone.

[KoKo]

34. Can you read transcripts on Democracy Now?

Amy covered the planned Keystone Protest and that there would be many who will do "sit-ins" and know they will be arrested.

I'm sure she will cover the protest tomorrow on her show. If you can get there online she always has a transcript that you can read of what she covers. And there aren't those annoying graphics/pop ups that suck up dial up bandwidth.

[scarletwoman]

50. Yes, and I will look for a transcript about today's protest tomorrow.

The thing is, as I stated above, for all these years I've relied on DU as my go-to news source, and followed links to places like Democracy Now! when they appeared on DU posts.

But I always used to be able to count on DU having posts about events like big demonstrations before and as they were happening. Apparently, I need to adjust my internet habits these days, since DU is no longer a place where actual real-world activism can break through the clutter of 500-post internicine arguments.

[Solly Mack]

7. K&R

[roody]

14. +1

[scarletwoman]

11. Here's another kick - and a rec, which I forgot to do until now. (nt)

[Rex]

12. The M$M learned a thing or two from the illegal Iraq Invasion

and the protests that followed - it would seem it is rather easy to get away with NOT talking about anything inconvenient to Big Biz and the D.C. Machine. If people don't like it, they can turn the channel.

Corporate media and corporate SIGs all but destroyed our right to be heard. You can protest all you want...but if it is not the RIGHT kind of protest, forgetaboutit. Never air.

YET if 10 tea party members get together in public, it is reported (on national news) as if 10,000 'patriots' took to the streets to voice protest against Obama.

We cannot win against corporate greed, sadly I think you know this as well as I do.

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. And people here don't think they are manipulated

by the government nor incorporate powers

They sure watch a lot of TV news though.

[Rex]

19. I've been clean and sober from Cable TV for years now.

It changed my health dropping TVEE altogether. My blood pressure is way down. LBN is still a great place to get news from, MUCH better then any cable news channel will ever be. Sadly, a lot of activist are no longer with us or decided not to follow us over to DU3. Their reasons are their own...but I also think the Third Way SIGs have done their best to kill activism on this site and it has worked to an extent.

This is a self fulfilling prophesy imo - we are in Earth's 5th extinction cycle and if people DON'T want to take our environment seriously, I am sure it will accommodate the next species willing to evolve WITH the planet and not against it.

I've always thought man vs. nature was a losing debate and we shall see it unfold before our very own lying eyes.

[zeemike]

42. Yep me too, clean and sober 5 years now I think

And looking back on it i can see what a waste of time it was...clicking through 100 channels to find something to watch...and then being disappointed.
TV is indeed a vast wast land...created to make idiots out of people...consuming idiots.

And if it were not for the fact that there are still a goon number of people here (like you) that have not changed or given up, DU would be part of that wasteland.

[BelgianMadCow]

63. 10 years of no TV

has helped. But so did your posting of zombie, and probably more. Art can cut through the bullshit to the heart.

[raccoon]

62. "corporate SIGs "--elucidate, my dear Watson. nt

[Rex]

69. Special interest groups.

The kind Reagan introduced us to way back when.

[senseandsensibility]

13. I will kick this

and hope it gets many responses. We sure aren't going to hear about it on the corporate media.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. What Kristin Welker, whom I loathe, reported to Alex Witt just before 2pm ET was

not even close to that number.

Alex what the sound she was hearing in her IFB was and Welker said "there are HUNDREDS of protesters from all 50 U.S. states protesting the XL Pipeline..."

She failed to report that protesters were hand-cuffing themselves to the gate nor did she memtion that they were being arrested en masse by police.

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. The photos from Politico seem to

put in the thousands in the link I gave.

I don't know about 40 thousand but its much more than hundreds.

[tblue37]

17. KnR. nt

[n2doc]

22. Thanks for posting this.

no sign of it in the wash post, of course.

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Maybe that's the real news

behind this news.

ITS NOT BEING REPORTED.

[n2doc]

24. It's finally starting to show up, or at least, the arrest news is

After the fact of course, and highlighting the arrests rather than the size of the protest.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/02/keystone-pipeline-protesters-arrested-outside-white-house/

http://www.sfgate.com/news/texas/article/Pipeline-protesters-arrested-at-White-House-5282537.php

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-keystone-protest-20140302,0,7866721.story


Funny how the size of the march isn't being reported. We can all guess how different this reporting would be if it were an identically-sized TP rally.

[dhill926]

40. exactly......

down the rabbit hole...

[polichick]

25. k&r

[sabrina 1]

26. Haven't seen that on the Corporate Media, thanks for posting it here.

THIS is what we should be focusing on, the destruction of our environment for nothing but GREED.

[Cleita]

28. It's not. It's all about Ukraine and Christie. eom

[dogindia]

27. reuters not so strong report

they are down playing this. No other big msm seem to be doing the story yet.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/02/us-usa-keystone-protest-idUSBREA210RI20140302

Guess it is okay for other nations to protest but not us. Why are the kids being arrested. It is an outrage.

[Cleita]

29. They won't either. They are gleefully reporting on Ukraine and Russia crisis.

It's important but it isn't the only news. This is big news too.

[sabrina 1]

33. And in a week or so everyone will forget this latest drama. They never follow up on

these stories though, like have they ever gone back to Lcheeibya to see the devastation of that country after all cheering for 'democracy'? Or any in depth coverage of the awful tragedy of Iraq and/or Afghanistan for the people we were 'rescuing'? And WE NEVER hear from the actual people regarding how our interventions have affected them.

It's pointless to watch anything on the MSM anymore, and when you haven't for a while, the bias becomes even more obvious, the 'formula' for all these stories they use.

[Cleita]

36. Al Jazeera America does follow up on a lot of those stories in their

special reports, but how many Americans have AJA on their cable channel line ups? They more often than not have to pay extra so for the most part so they don't. Even MSNBC is often extra. However Fox is on every cable and satellite line up and turned on in public every place you go that has a public TV.

What is wrong with this picture?

[arikara]

68. I just checked aljazeera online for this

they don't have it either.

[Cleita]

70. I saw it reported on AlJ yesterday.

You may not see a special report unless they do a special report on protests in the US down the line. The poster was talking about follow ups on many stories not just this one and they do that. The only story our MSM is following up on is Chris Christie all the time.

[Cleita]

71. btw

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/3/2/students-protestkeystoneoutsideofwhitehousearrestsmade.html

Police arrested nearly 400 student-led demonstrators who marched to the White House on Sunday to protest against the Keystone XL pipeline.

Marching under the name XL Dissent, at least 500 students from across the United States demonstrated and engaged in acts of civil disobedience outside the White House.

After repeated warnings, police arrested demonstrators for "blocking passage" of sidewalks, Sgt. Lelani Woods of the U.S. Park Police told Al Jazeera. "We advised protesters of the outcome of the warnings, which would be an arrest. They decided to remain on the sidewalk, so the arrest process began," she said.

More at link.

[Cleita]

45. Finally heard some news on the radio about it while I went to the store

on the same conservative station that plays Limbaugh and Beck.

[ctsnowman]

67. Exactly!

"Guess it is okay for other nations to protest but not us."

[dogindia]

30. well the times has something...though not on front of website

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/hundreds-face-arrest-at-anti-pipeline-protest/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Politics&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs&region=Body&_r=1&

[Scuba]

32. Boy, just wait 'til the liberal media hears about this!

[BodieTown]

35. Feeling Played Yet?

If you believe the Mother Jones story today that nothing will come of the Ukraine/Russia/US rhetoric, then it couldn't be clearer that we're being played.

It's called national propaganda, the fear card, corporate media agendas, and hopes of war profiteering.

By now, Americas ought to be feeling sick to their collective stomach over being manipulated and used by our media and corporate masters and puppets. Even "liberal" blogs are promoting the fear card today, just before they go 100% Academy Awards this evening.

[zeemike]

43. Played is the right word

And welcome to DU

[BodieTown]

54. Thanks.

And for the record:

When I composed my earlier response, HuffPo's headlines were, "The Winds of War".

Just now, their headlines were "Lights, Camera, Action."

Exactly what I predicted.

You bet I'm feeling played.

[hootinholler]

37. I wish I had known

I probably would have gone downtown.

[ReRe]

44. K&R

Of all the corruption and wrongs in this country, the corporatization of the MSM/Press weighs the most. It's what allows all of our other ills to occur. The people are uninformed. Reality is withheld.

Thanks for this OP, because I knew nothing about this protest. Even though the American public wasn't informed about it, the one person who needed to know about it lives right there in the WH.

[Cleita]

46. They finally put it on the radio breaking news, between the Crimea story and

the G8 Summit story and on a Clear Channel station.

[ReRe]

48. Yeah. That way they can say...

... they "did" tell the people.

[Cleita]

49. I don't disagree. It's a limp effort. n/t

[hatrack]

64. Reminds me of NPR reporting "hundreds" of protestors on the Mall pre-Iraq war

"Hundreds". This came the day after at least half a million people from around the world arrived in DC.

They did actually apologize for that a few days later.

SSDD

[bigwillq]

47. We shall see if our President listens to the people (nt)

[johnnyreb]

51. They wouldn't lie to me-- not on my own damn tv!

(credit to Willie Nelson)

[KansDem]

52. Kick...

...the media SOBs in the butt for not reporting on this!

[Atman]

53. The Hartford CBS affiliate ran a story and video

Shows pics of arrests, but showed mostly peaceful protest with people sitting in the street chanting and drumming. Two people were shown being very calmy walked off in handcuffs. Hey, at least they covered it. Now I could figure out what the hell I was doing watch CBS!

[DireStrike]

55. Another peaceful protest, another media blackout

You know what they say about those who make peaceful revolution impossible...

But seriously, break some traffic laws. Block some streets. Get arrested. Otherwise you'll be ignored completely.

[johnnyreb]

56. #NoKXL fight continues tomorrow in SF as Bay Area youth hit the streets

https://twitter.com/OphirBruck/status/440207791198715904/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Sho_How/status/440203348176695296/photo/1

[deutsey]

57. I heard about this on Democracy Now! a couple weeks ago...glad it was a such a good turnout!

I considered going to DC, but just couldn't get away.

I recommend everyone who's disappointed in the lack of in-depth news coverage watch Democracy Now! on Monday. I'd be surprised if they don't cover it.

www.democracynow.org

[KoKo]

58. 60 RECOMMENDS...and NOT ON DU GREATEST PAGE!

WHY?

IMPORTANT!

[Enthusiast]

59. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

[BelgianMadCow]

61. Sorry, Ukraine

democracy is something to be spread, but not everywhere, you silly! Room 101 for you.

[jwirr]

66. IF I understand this correctly Canada is going to use this pipeline to transport its oil to the Gulf

to be sold to the highest world bidder. We do not benefit from this oil at all. Why can't they build the pipeline across their own country?

[Cleita]

72. NIMBY. (Not in my backyard).

They are smarter than us.

[jwirr]

73. Definitely and it probably has something to do with NAFTA. Who knows?