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AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:09 PM Mar 2014

A RW HS classmate just posted

That Romney foresaw Russian aggression but Obama ignored it. I suspect as with most RW assertions this is at best a half truth, but does anyone have an idea how I go about refuting it with facts? Maybe something was mentioned in the foreign policy debate? Or elsewhere? All help greatly appreciated!

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A RW HS classmate just posted (Original Post) AndreaCG Mar 2014 OP
IIRC Romney saw Soviet aggression rurallib Mar 2014 #1
Obama ignored it? meanit Mar 2014 #2
Rather than guessing at what he meant, ask for a citation. Jim__ Mar 2014 #3
"Bin Laden determined to strike in US" Gman Mar 2014 #4
Who didn't see it? DemocraticWing Mar 2014 #5
LOL. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #6
Russia invaded Georgia when Bush was president. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #7
And Bush looked into Pooty Poot's eyes Lex Mar 2014 #8
"I wouldn't have invited him to my ranch if I didn't trust him." LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #9
Another Bush gem. Lex Mar 2014 #10
Make the pie higher. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #11
Maybe he followed Palin on Twitter, considering she can see Russia from her house. flvegan Mar 2014 #12
So what would Romney had done. What the GOP did when Russia marched into Georgia? nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #13

meanit

(455 posts)
2. Obama ignored it?
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:27 PM
Mar 2014

He ignored a crisis that did not exist yet? What was Obama supposed to do, start a preemptive war with Russia?

The right tried to blame Jimmy Carter for the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1980, too.

Standard right wing bullshit.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
3. Rather than guessing at what he meant, ask for a citation.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:30 PM
Mar 2014

Otherwise, no matter what you respond to he can just claim that not what he's talking about.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
5. Who didn't see it?
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:46 PM
Mar 2014

I don't see how Obama is to blame for Putin doing what he's always done. Unless people thought we should bomb Russia (not wise) last year or something, there's not a lot to be done that would prevent Putin flexing his muscles and trying to crush surrounding countries into submission.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
7. Russia invaded Georgia when Bush was president.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:56 PM
Mar 2014

Different can of beans, I suppose. France brokered a peace deal and Bush was just a bystander to it all. I keep thinking, 'This, too, shall pass.'

Of course your RW acquaintance will blame Obama. Color me not surprised.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
11. Make the pie higher.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:14 AM
Mar 2014

Dark, indeed. Sibelius' thread today had me rereading this long-ago gem. GWB quotes reformatted for haiku.

MAKE THE PIE HIGHER

I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
And potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet
Become more few?

How many hands have I shaked?
They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbill on the pantleg of opportunity.

I know that the human being
And the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope,
Where our wings take dream.

Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher!
I am the Decider!
http://www.ablemuse.com/erato/showthread.php?t=2659

flvegan

(64,413 posts)
12. Maybe he followed Palin on Twitter, considering she can see Russia from her house.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:18 AM
Mar 2014

#caribouBarbie
#stupid'publicans
#don'tknowwhattictactoesignsmean
#lookitmetweetingbutnotontwitter

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