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WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:08 AM Mar 2012

Denver woman brags about faking mental disorder to avoid jury duty on radio show, gets arrested

Denver woman brags about faking mental disorder to avoid jury duty on radio show, gets arrested

A crafty cosmetologist is facing a possible jail sentence after wearing hair curlers, clown makeup and mismatched shoes to jury duty then claiming a mental disorder and bragging about the stunt on the radio.

Susan Cole, a beautician and Mary Kay cosmetics saleswoman from Denver, was booked Thursday morning on felony charges of first-degree perjury and attempt to influence a public servant, prosecutors said.

If convicted, she faces a maximum of six years in prison on each charge.

Cole, 57, concocted her elaborate story to wriggle out of jury service last June, prosecutors said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/denver-woman-brags-faking-mental-disorder-avoid-jury-duty-radio-show-arrested-article-1.1048958#ixzz1pwtVlmUh

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Denver woman brags about faking mental disorder to avoid jury duty on radio show, gets arrested (Original Post) WillParkinson Mar 2012 OP
good. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #1
Such a weird woman, I hope she gets a SamG Mar 2012 #2
Ummmmmm Zalatix Mar 2012 #9
Getting out of jury duty (for a criminal court) is quite simple... Leftist Agitator Mar 2012 #19
You don;t even have to tell that much do you? OriginalGeek Mar 2012 #22
There are easier ways Duer 157099 Mar 2012 #28
Can agree it needs to be fixed. But the first step to fixing .. SamG Mar 2012 #29
If you are working for an employer who will support you, then yes, you should do jury duty. Zalatix Mar 2012 #32
"when you are just a lowly Mary Kay rep" SamG Mar 2012 #34
Typical right-wing freeloader. Note the line-up on 850KOA. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #3
Am I the only one who doesn't want such right-wing scumfucks on a jury? backscatter712 Mar 2012 #11
Nope, I want her in prison, not on any jury ever again, and SamG Mar 2012 #30
That stunt may cause her to lose the Mary Kay gig. n/t LeftinOH Mar 2012 #4
I'm glad they caught her. hamsterjill Mar 2012 #5
Wrong! I would LOVE to experience jury duty. I've been called several times, but never .. 11 Bravo Mar 2012 #23
Epic fail - that woman got what she deserves. Initech Mar 2012 #6
Just a hint.. here is how it is done. My favorite video which I saw live. Loudmxr Mar 2012 #7
KOA is Local Wingnut Station otohara Mar 2012 #8
Ok, stupid woman did something stupid, but 12 years in prison for lying to get out of jury duty? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #10
I always find much more subtle ways to avoid jury duty. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #12
Of course you do. ret5hd Mar 2012 #13
When they start paying a living wage I will stop avoiding it like the plague. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #14
Of course you will. ret5hd Mar 2012 #15
So you don't care that jury duty can destroy your livelihood? Zalatix Mar 2012 #21
I appreciate your dedication to our legal system! You a dem? Logical Mar 2012 #26
Yes, and someone who doesn't get paid while on jury duty. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #27
I assume you never donate time for free to anyone. Classy! Logical Mar 2012 #31
Well, the advantage of getting old is you get out of jury duty. RebelOne Mar 2012 #16
Lazy and stupid is no way to go through life JHB Mar 2012 #17
A Mary Kay Commando? SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #18
I STILL have that book! dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #24
Yep.. Breathed, Watterson, Amend... SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #33
D'oh! tanyev Mar 2012 #20
Well first the bad news..... whistler162 Mar 2012 #25
More bad news ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #35

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
1. good.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:11 AM
Mar 2012

All she had to do was to show her rampant stupidity, and the attorneys very likely would have struck her from duty.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
2. Such a weird woman, I hope she gets a
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:12 AM
Mar 2012

jury trial.

And 6 days in prison on each count.

I don't want people like this clogging up our prisons, but a few days there will help her be honest for the rest of her life.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
9. Ummmmmm
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 01:20 PM
Mar 2012

If she had done jury duty she could have lost a lot of income. You realize that a lot of people today are a paycheck away from disaster, and jury duty doesn't come close to compensating you for the loss of your pay. Cosmetologists aren't exactly rolling in dough, and if she's a Mary Kay consultant she has no employer that's going to back her up on this. Every day is a struggle for 99% of Mary Kay reps - jury duty ruins their ability to get sales, and that hits you in your rent, food, etc.

Okay so I hear she's a wingnut, still though, she's most likely one of the 99% - any one of us could get called in. It's potentially ruinous in a financial sense. We can't just ignore that. You squeeze someone between not making rent or not having food and going to jail over jury duty, they're going to gamble on getting food and rent.

The jury duty system is broken and it needs to be fixed.

 

Leftist Agitator

(2,759 posts)
19. Getting out of jury duty (for a criminal court) is quite simple...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:26 PM
Mar 2012

Tell the judge and attorneys that you will not believe any of the testimony of police officers, because they are trained professional liars.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
22. You don;t even have to tell that much do you?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:46 PM
Mar 2012

Can't you claim financial hardship? I gather if she is a cosmetologist she is self-employed. Hell, you don't even have to go in to do that - it's something you can fill out and mail in right from the summons for jury duty.*

Where is taterguy when you need him? This lady was a....



*in Florida anyway - maybe CO is different...still, there are usually any number of legal, legitimate ways to be excused...

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
28. There are easier ways
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:51 PM
Mar 2012

To tell the judge anything means you have to actually get called into a courtroom, then wait for hours or days for your number to be called before anybody actually asks you anything. You could spend a whole week at the courthouse before that happened.

I think you can make hardship claim either by mail or by showing up the first day and filling out a form.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
29. Can agree it needs to be fixed. But the first step to fixing ..
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:53 PM
Mar 2012

the jury system is getting honest jurors, jury duty supported by their employers, and self-employed people planning for the 1 in 15 chance that they will ever serve on a jury for more than a day of their lives.

If you have financial hardship with extended, (more than 2 day) jury service, say so.

That is enough to get you out of it in most states.

Few brain surgeons, or other doctors, actually serve on juries.

If you run your own business, what happens when you go into the hospital for two weeks? Do you go bankrupt? I doubt it.

Only one in 100 trials take longer than two weeks.

Most of those trials are filled with juries of housewives, retired folks, unemployed, government employees, or employees of large corporations that pay their employees for more than two weeks of service on juries,


Bottom line: only about 190 trials in the USA each year take longer than two weeks.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
32. If you are working for an employer who will support you, then yes, you should do jury duty.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:53 PM
Mar 2012

But when you are just a lowly Mary Kay rep, even a DAY of jury duty can really set you back when you're one of the 99%. And since you mentioned being hospitalized, well that can be even worse since Mary Kay reps don't have company-provided health insurance. Only certain Sales Directors are up-line enough to survive on residuals, but I know some Directors (DIQ and beyond) - you know ones who get the Pink Cadillacs (well, now they're doing Toyotas, Chevys, and are looking at Mustangs, too)? Well, the lower-end ones also have to maintain their downlines on a weekly or even daily basis, because their downlines keep quitting, getting cold feet, etc. Jury duty can really mess up someone like that.

And don't be married with both of you struggling to make ends meet. The judge will laugh at your excuse, at least they consistently do in California. In that case you better hope one of you works for a boss that'll support you.

The first step to fixing jury duty is making sure that people don't lose income every day that they serve.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
34. "when you are just a lowly Mary Kay rep"
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:35 PM
Mar 2012

when you are just a lowly Mary Kay rep, you are NOT serving America, you are making money off the futile wishes of women who think looks make a difference in character.\\

"The first step to fixing jury duty is making sure that people don't lose income every day that they serve."

Of course, for you, it's all about money.

Actually, 90% of jurors lose no $.

The rest, mostly, need to say how they will be economically compromised, and they will be let out.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Am I the only one who doesn't want such right-wing scumfucks on a jury?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:40 PM
Mar 2012

They're the authoritarian fuckwads who instantly go "HE'S GUILTY! IF HE WASN'T GUILTY, HE WOULDN'T BE IN COURT!"

They assume guilt, and can't use analytical thinking to y'know, examine the evidence and see for yourself if the evidence is strong enough to prove guilt...

 

SamG

(535 posts)
30. Nope, I want her in prison, not on any jury ever again, and
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:56 PM
Mar 2012

probably not eligible to vote for a few more years, since she is so self-absorbed.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
5. I'm glad they caught her.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:30 AM
Mar 2012

While no one enjoys jury service, the system doesn't work without it. Quite disrespectful of her to make a mockery out of it when so many of us show up when called IMHO.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
23. Wrong! I would LOVE to experience jury duty. I've been called several times, but never ..
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:51 PM
Mar 2012

empaneled. (The last time I was part of a jury pool, the defendant turned out to be a former 2nd grade student of mine! Needless to say, I was excused.)

Loudmxr

(1,405 posts)
7. Just a hint.. here is how it is done. My favorite video which I saw live.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:24 PM
Mar 2012


You can tell them how it is done but in the last... never tell them how it is done.
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
8. KOA is Local Wingnut Station
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 01:12 PM
Mar 2012

she said on the news, KOA was her life, she doesn't have a TV.

Self inflicted brainwashing is rampant in America!

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
10. Ok, stupid woman did something stupid, but 12 years in prison for lying to get out of jury duty?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 01:44 PM
Mar 2012

That seems just a little bit over the top, much like much of our criminal justice system.

It does, though, help explain why we lead the world in imprisonment.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
21. So you don't care that jury duty can destroy your livelihood?
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:40 PM
Mar 2012

I'm sure you'll respond with, "Of course I don't."

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
16. Well, the advantage of getting old is you get out of jury duty.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 02:54 PM
Mar 2012

I received a notice last year to report for jury duty. One of the exemptions was that if you were over 70. I was already 72. I have to send in a notarized statement stating that I was over 70. I had already done two jury duties, one in Florida and one in Georgia, and I did not want to do any more. So I had a very legitimate reason for refusing.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
17. Lazy and stupid is no way to go through life
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:03 PM
Mar 2012

1) it probably took more work to get out of jury duty than it would have taken to simply do it;
2) if you're going to go to that length to avoid something, don't draw attention to it, stupid!

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
25. Well first the bad news.....
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:29 PM
Mar 2012

you will likely go to prison.

But the good news is...

you likely won't be called for jury duty again

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