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Report1212

(661 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:19 AM Mar 2012

Exposed: The Corporations Behind The Law That May Let Trayvon Martin’s Killer Go Free

It’s been widely reported today that the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the shadowy corporate front group that unites state lawmakers with corporations to pass state laws favorable to corporate interests, helped pass the law that might allow Trayvon Martin’s killer, George Zimmerman, to escape prosecution. Florida’s “Stand Your Ground,” the law that might help Zimmerman to claim self-defense (despite evidence to the contrary) is just one of many state laws that is nearly identical to ALEC’s model Castle Doctrine Act. The Florida senator who introduced the law, Durell Peadon, was also a member of ALEC. The law passed in 2005.

According to the Center for Media and Democracy, 98 percent of ALEC’s revenues come from corporations, corporate trade groups, and corporate foundations. Each member pays annual fees of between $7,000 and $25,000. ALEC is also supplemented by direct grants. We don’t know all the details about all of ALEC’s funders and members. Here’s a partial list of what we do know about the corporations and foundations who helped fund the group that drafted the law that keeps Trayvon Martin’s killer free — and put more guns on our streets:

Read more: http://www.republicreport.org/2012/trayvon-martin-alec-corporate-funder/

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Exposed: The Corporations Behind The Law That May Let Trayvon Martin’s Killer Go Free (Original Post) Report1212 Mar 2012 OP
The reason he may go free has nothing to do with SYG. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #1
SYG has nothing to do with being "anti-gun" Report1212 Mar 2012 #2
It isn't "legalized murder". Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #3
murder does not require premeditation DrDan Mar 2012 #4
Ok, there are different categories. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #5
Chasing a person down the street Aerows Mar 2012 #7
Exactly. It he had a gun, he would have been perfectly justified to shoot Zimmermann. denverbill Mar 2012 #8
Yep Aerows Mar 2012 #10
nra was also a major backer of this bill. that backs my anti-gun cause. spanone Mar 2012 #6
NRA also funds ALEC fyi nt Report1212 Mar 2012 #9
The police cited the law when they declined to arrest him... ljm2002 Mar 2012 #11
 

Pacafishmate

(249 posts)
1. The reason he may go free has nothing to do with SYG.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:22 AM
Mar 2012

Keep posting that because it furthers your anti gun cause, however. He's going free because the police are backing him up and refuse to charge him.

Also did you ever think that people may be behind the law rather than corporations? No, anything you don't like has to be an evil corporate conspiracy.

Report1212

(661 posts)
2. SYG has nothing to do with being "anti-gun"
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:26 AM
Mar 2012

It's legalized murder. I don't care if it's with a gun or a knife or a spoon or a panda bear.

 

Pacafishmate

(249 posts)
3. It isn't "legalized murder".
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:30 AM
Mar 2012

Murder requires malice and premeditation. If someone is running at me with a knife and I shoot them, there was neither malice nor premeditation. I shot them to protect myself from harm. It doesn't matter if the situation occurs inside my home or in a department store. SYG expands the use of force in situations that warrant it.

 

Pacafishmate

(249 posts)
5. Ok, there are different categories.
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:40 AM
Mar 2012

The point is still that there can be justification for using violence.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
7. Chasing a person down the street
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:44 AM
Mar 2012

When they are actively trying to get away from you, is not a justification for using fatal harm. If anything, the person being chased that is unarmed and actively fleeing someone that they view as an attacker is the one that is justified in using violence.

I know if I was chased down the street in an area I had every right to be in and someone in a car kept following me, then they exited their vehicle when I ran and still persisted in following me, I would have every right to fear for my life. Not the other way around.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. Yep
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:59 AM
Mar 2012

If anything, you'd think people would seize onto the argument that "If Trayvon had a gun, he'd still be alive", but judging by how this was handled by the Sanford police, he'd be in jail for murder.

That's why this entire line of thinking that it is justifiable to chase someone down and shoot them before the police get there is unreasonable.

I fully believe in gun rights and the right to defend yourself. I also fully believe in prosecuting people who escalate situations to the point where they are acting as vigilantes. That's what happened here.

If your life is not in danger, and you get out of your vehicle to pursue someone, YOU are the aggressor. No ifs ands or buts about it.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
11. The police cited the law when they declined to arrest him...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:31 PM
Mar 2012

...so I'd say the SYG law actually has a lot to do with why he's free right now, and has not been charged. Now you may argue that they misinterpreted the law, but then again that seems pretty easy to do.

Whether or not they are interpreting the law correctly, if police departments are using the law to let people like Zimmerman walk free without even pressing charges, then the law does indeed have something to do with incidents like this.

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