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niyad

(113,581 posts)
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:31 PM Mar 2014

the "extra hour of daylight" benefits convenience stores, gas stations, golf courses, the bbq

industry and all outdoor sports, along with increased pollution from the extended use of cars. what do we the people gain? a chance to watch the sunsets with our loved ones. that was what I just heard on a segment of the national news. oh, and in case you were wondering why it now goes into nov--apparently at the behest of the candy industry--seems more kids go out for halloween with the delay in returning to dst.

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the "extra hour of daylight" benefits convenience stores, gas stations, golf courses, the bbq (Original Post) niyad Mar 2014 OP
And it killed the drive-in movie industry. Scuba Mar 2014 #1
Meh... Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #2
We are lucky in that there is a drive in less than a 20 minute drive away from ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #9
Agree with you 100%. ChazII Mar 2014 #18
Frisco, TX here. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #36
Not true. We have had DST all my life, Curmudgeoness Mar 2014 #7
The ever increasing cost of real estate was what killed the Drive-In. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #32
Real estate prices may have been a contributing factor in some areas, but I know of several .... Scuba Mar 2014 #34
I guess growing up in Southern California gave me a near-sighted perspective. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #40
So, is this the new thing to be mad about? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #3
It has pissed me off since the 60's TexasProgresive Mar 2014 #47
Well, I am one of those people who loves daylight savings time. Curmudgeoness Mar 2014 #4
You could take a walk before work... seattledo Mar 2014 #5
can't play a round of golf before work,or do as much yardwork as you could otherwise... dionysus Mar 2014 #8
Pitch black before work too, in the winter. Curmudgeoness Mar 2014 #11
as a shill of Big Golf, i can testify that when the clock changes in the fall it is the death knell dionysus Mar 2014 #13
Our cycling club pretty much dies when DST ends Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #25
It was always the last Sunday in October anyway. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #6
you're just a shill for Big Candy... dionysus Mar 2014 #10
Curses! ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #14
smarties are the gateway candy to sugar daddies! dionysus Mar 2014 #15
. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #19
remember those? so sticky they'd almost pull a tooth out! dionysus Mar 2014 #20
The picture literally made my teeth zing! ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #21
For Me It Was Always Bonomo Turkish Taffy. left on green only Mar 2014 #26
the ending date is now in november. and I am not the one who said that, it was somebody being niyad Mar 2014 #12
I'm sorry, I didn't think you were. The ending date is exactly 7 days after the original ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #16
Did you grow up in a small town in Wisconsin? Jenoch Mar 2014 #45
I will enjoy the extra hour of daylight. bigwillq Mar 2014 #17
Words cannot contain my white-hot rage at the oppressive corporate conspiracy the changing clocks Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #22
what do we gain? the ability to enjoy "convenience stores, gas stations, golf courses, the bbq " at dionysus Mar 2014 #23
Why can't they Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #24
Always someone who sees the glass half empty upaloopa Mar 2014 #27
in my day i've seen DU get outraged at many wierd things... this might take the cake... dionysus Mar 2014 #28
I share those sentiments Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #30
All of those things are used by "the people." Codeine Mar 2014 #29
Exactly! Lex Mar 2014 #44
So my question is... TlalocW Mar 2014 #31
Oh, it's more complicated than that. winter is coming Mar 2014 #41
"...extended use of cars." Last I heard, cars had headlights. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #33
that was referring to the pollution, not the headlights. niyad Mar 2014 #42
I'm not sure I really buy that, TBH. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #35
OH FFS alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #37
Next up... How the sun rising in the east benefits....... whistler162 Mar 2014 #38
And my electric bill. CK_John Mar 2014 #39
Aha, something new to be laughingly pissed about, I see. flvegan Mar 2014 #43
I like DST. it only takes me a few days to adjust. Jenoch Mar 2014 #46
Sweet. I was kinda hoping for a new outrage du jour... Earth_First Mar 2014 #48

Wounded Bear

(58,717 posts)
2. Meh...
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:44 PM
Mar 2014

I think that urban and suburban sprawl and light pollution did that. There's pretty much nowhere where it's dark enough to watch a movie on an outdoor screen any more that's reasonable driving distance.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
9. We are lucky in that there is a drive in less than a 20 minute drive away from
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:52 PM
Mar 2014

our suburban north Houston home. North Houston is odd. We have cows grazing less than a half mile away, and yet we are in the middle of modern suburbia.

ChazII

(6,206 posts)
18. Agree with you 100%.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:59 PM
Mar 2014

I am near the Salt River Indian Reservation and they have a 6 screen drive in theater on the reservation.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
36. Frisco, TX here.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:28 PM
Mar 2014

I live on the edge of town and we've got farms & ranches of our own not far from my neighborhood. But just a few miles south....and there's just about every kind of restaurant and other business you could imagine!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
7. Not true. We have had DST all my life,
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:51 PM
Mar 2014

and drive-in movies were very popular in my younger days. But maybe we just stayed up later than these kids do today.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
32. The ever increasing cost of real estate was what killed the Drive-In.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:09 PM
Mar 2014

Acres of land that could only be used after dark turned out to be a losing proposition in the context of business models.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
34. Real estate prices may have been a contributing factor in some areas, but I know of several ....
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:25 PM
Mar 2014

... abandoned drive-in theaters that have been sitting idle for 30 years.

A quick Google search suggests the advent of DST was at least as influential on the demise of drive-ins as real estate costs.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
40. I guess growing up in Southern California gave me a near-sighted perspective.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:45 PM
Mar 2014

I've always wanted to open a drive-in covered by something ultra lightweight that could be supported by cables running from the top of the screen to the ground in the back. Matinee Drive-In.

TexasProgresive

(12,158 posts)
47. It has pissed me off since the 60's
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 07:52 AM
Mar 2014

I spend a lot of time outdoors. The position of the sun is how I sense time. When the Sun is as high overhead it is noon not 1:00PM. It really irritates dairy farmers-the cows will come in at 6 and not 5 regardless of what the clock says.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
4. Well, I am one of those people who loves daylight savings time.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:48 PM
Mar 2014

I get outside more when it is light later. All winter long, I don't take walks because by the time I get home from work, it is dark. I am ready to go to bed when the sun goes down, so I don't seem to get anything done in winter.

I am not opposed to businesses benefitting as well, although I don't really think that it matters...people with money to spend will spend it. And those golfers...they would be up and on the course at 5:00 in the morning if it was light out, instead of later in the evening.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
11. Pitch black before work too, in the winter.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:53 PM
Mar 2014

And I hate alarms more than anything in the world----including Faux News---so getting up even earlier to go for a walk is just out of the question.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
13. as a shill of Big Golf, i can testify that when the clock changes in the fall it is the death knell
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:54 PM
Mar 2014

of the golf season. love being able to play until almost 9 in the summer!

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
25. Our cycling club pretty much dies when DST ends
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 10:26 PM
Mar 2014

So I agree with you. We go from 50 riders on a certain weekday ride to about 15 the week DST ends. Due to snow, cycling is not a year round activity for most people, but DST brings a premature end in the fall. I expect to see a bunch of people out this Monday who I haven't seen in a few months.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. It was always the last Sunday in October anyway.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:50 PM
Mar 2014

The major change is in the spring, go forward date... which was moved from the last Sunday in March to the second Sunday in March. I hardly think it's at the "behest of the candy industry..." Oy.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
26. For Me It Was Always Bonomo Turkish Taffy.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 10:47 PM
Mar 2014

I was so happy in my adult life to see that they have re-issued the original recipe. That was until I realized that I now have capped teeth that are in danger of being swallowed. LOL.

niyad

(113,581 posts)
12. the ending date is now in november. and I am not the one who said that, it was somebody being
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:53 PM
Mar 2014

interview on the national news about dst.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
16. I'm sorry, I didn't think you were. The ending date is exactly 7 days after the original
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:57 PM
Mar 2014

ending date which is no big deal.

The crap part of growing up in WI was that trick or treat was always 3-5 p.m. the Sunday closest to Halloween, so DST wouldn't/doesn't matter there, and we get eleventy billion kids here in dark of night Houston by the time trick or treat starts, so I can't see it mattering to candy co.s.

March is where the change is noticeable. It will still be somewhat light out here at 8 p.m., because we are at the far edge of CT.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
45. Did you grow up in a small town in Wisconsin?
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:28 AM
Mar 2014

I grew up in rural Minnesota and have lived in the Twin Cities for over 20 years and trick or treating has always been on October 31st.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
17. I will enjoy the extra hour of daylight.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 08:58 PM
Mar 2014

And I will enjoy the warmer weather (hopefully!) that comes with it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. Words cannot contain my white-hot rage at the oppressive corporate conspiracy the changing clocks
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 09:07 PM
Mar 2014

represent.

Smash! Smash! SMASH THE CLOCKS, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!



dionysus

(26,467 posts)
23. what do we gain? the ability to enjoy "convenience stores, gas stations, golf courses, the bbq " at
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 09:08 PM
Mar 2014

later hours...

everything you mention is exactly what "the people" gain... not to mention the later hours for yardwork, outdoor activities of all kinds, ect.

are you afraid of Big Softball and their evil leagues??

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
24. Why can't they
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 09:09 PM
Mar 2014

just keep the time the same one way or the other? Do we still need to keep changing the time back-and-forth like this in the 21st century?

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
30. I share those sentiments
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:02 PM
Mar 2014

Never mind poverty, a ridiculous degree of surveillance, a corporate/political structure which appears to be slowly strangling the country, endless wars, drone wars, the political snarl in DC, a growing list of domestic problems with a growing list of excuses, calls to cut retirement benefits, millions of people who can't find ANY full-time job, much less one with benefits. ...

I'm sure all of us older people who remember the country the way it used to be could add to the list.

But no, we must eradicate the DST menace in our time?!

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
29. All of those things are used by "the people."
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 10:57 PM
Mar 2014

If those businesses are benefitting it is because people are able to use their services at the times they'd like more conveniently, yeah?

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
31. So my question is...
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:08 PM
Mar 2014

Are we returning to, "the correct time," - what time it would have been if we never had DST and just let the hours and years pass without any clock resetting, or have we been on the correct time and are now going to jump an hour ahead of it?

TlalocW

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
41. Oh, it's more complicated than that.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:50 PM
Mar 2014

You know those embezzlement scams where someone skims a penny or two off of a shit-ton of bank accounts?

Every time we switch back and forth for DST, an evil scientist skims off a few minutes and sends them into an alternate universe and that time is lost to us forever!

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
35. I'm not sure I really buy that, TBH.
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:25 PM
Mar 2014

I don't doubt that industry has it's influence, but candymakers behind the extension of DST? That sounds more like a bad Onion piece than anything close to reality, TBH.

BTW, there's a lot of small businesses who benefit from DST, too, not just the big guys.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
38. Next up... How the sun rising in the east benefits.......
Sat Mar 8, 2014, 11:29 PM
Mar 2014

who knows what nuttiness will be written until they decide!

flvegan

(64,416 posts)
43. Aha, something new to be laughingly pissed about, I see.
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:10 AM
Mar 2014

Pointing fingers at Big BBQ and Big Outdoor Sports (damn you childrens and your outdoor sports! why can't you exercise inside like...oh, wait).

I don't get the "extended use of cars" though. Shit, the bbq crap is more pollution many times over than the cars are.

Sunset haters!!

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
46. I like DST. it only takes me a few days to adjust.
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 12:43 AM
Mar 2014

I like the late sunsets in June as much as I dislike the early sunsets in December.

I don't know how I would like living near the equator where the length of day/night barely changes. It might be interesting to spend some time in Quito and find out.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
48. Sweet. I was kinda hoping for a new outrage du jour...
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 08:01 AM
Mar 2014

...but nothing that'd last more than a day or so.

Enter: DST

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