Gaza fires rockets on Southern Israel

[Tsiyu]

Last edited Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Barrage of rockets launched from Gaza to Israel

Attack comes on the heels of British PM Cameron's address at the Knesset; Islamic Jihad claims responsibility

At least 25 rockets were fired from the Gaza Strip at Israeli southern cities Wednesday. Code Red alert was heard all across the Gaza envelope, including Sderot, Netivot, the Shaar HaNegev Regional Council and the Sdot Negev Regional Council.

One rocket has reportedly hit a residential area but there were no reports of injuries. Iron Dome missile system intercepted three rockets.

The Islamic Jihad has claimed responsibility, calling all militant factions in Gaza to end the ceasefire with Israel.

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/140312-barrage-of-rockets-launched-from-gaza-to-israel

heads up for anyone interested...peace talks are working....NOT

[Archae]

1. Yeah, but...but...it's Israel's fault!

Because Israel is simply there, donchu know.

[Tsiyu]

2. It's the fault of both sides to me

They both need to stop with the violence and reach some amicable agreement, but that's never gonna happen.

It's like watching rival gangs trying to one up each other. There will never be peace as long as both sides think humans are mere cannon fodder to achieve their own ends.

I do have family in Israel, so I am very concerned for them

[COLGATE4]

3. When Israel starts indiscriminately firing rockets into Gaza I'll

believe the "fault of both sides" argument. Not before.

[Orrex]

5. That'll happen once Palestine starts forcibly building settlements to expand its territory

[COLGATE4]

6. Thank you for making my point for me. nt

[Orrex]

8. Yeah, there are very few "innocent parties" in charge on either side

As always, the victims are mostly civilians and mostly low-income.

[Capt. Obvious]

10. Stop trying to distract from Benghazi

[Orrex]

12. You're only saying that because the IRS audited your superpac.

[Capt. Obvious]

15. Get back to be when you've finished reading Dreams From My Bill Ayers

It's all right there.

[NuclearDem]

7. Or when Hamas blockades Tel Aviv and keeps food and medicine out.

[Fozzledick]

13. You've got that backwards.

The blockade is a defense against the rocket attacks.

[Orrex]

18. Because nothing stops a rocket like a starving child

[Fozzledick]

19. What a desperate fraud!!

I guess when you have no truth to support your propaganda then that's all you can do.

[Orrex]

21. Explain how the blockade against food and medicine defends against rocket attacks

Be specific and provide citations, please.

[cpwm17]

22. It's not really that complicated why this is going on

One side declared for themselves the right to take the other side's homeland. That tends to make people upset. No mater what, no Palestinian has the ability to achieve basics human rights for themselves that are supposed to be guaranteed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

Article 1.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
^ Top

Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 7.

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 9.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 12.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
^ Top

Article 13.

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

Article 17.

(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 21.

(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

It's not that complicated. Please imagine for yourself what Americans would do if faced with the same situation the Palestinians are faced with. Most mature adults have this ability, but apparently not everybody does.

[Fozzledick]

26. You've got that backwards too.

It was the Palestinians who declared for themselves the right to take the Israeli's homeland. They lost on the war they started on the battlefield, but instead of admitting defeat and making peace they chose a prolonged war of attrition through terrorism.

[cpwm17]

34. Talk about making up your own facts to support your position

Everything you just wrote is 100% wrong. Nothing resembles reality. You can't come to the correct conclusions with the wrong facts.

But since the facts are so obvious to anyone with just a little understanding of the conflict, it's obvious to me why you make such ridiculous claims: denial. Your motivations aren't pure.

You then use you denial as an excuse to further support the abuse the victims. That's many orders of magnitude worse than just being a denier.

[Fozzledick]

37. I think you've described yourself very well!

There does seem to be an awful lot of it going around.

[Capt. Obvious]

38. The, "I know you are but what am I?" defense

Game. Set. Match.

[Fozzledick]

44. I dined with the Duchess of Lee

Who asked; "Do you fart when you pee?"

I replied, with some wit;

"Do you belch when you shit?"

And considered it one up for me.


Sorry folks, this is just getting too insane to take seriously.

[leftynyc]

16. Same here

Those that think building something equals rockets raining down on civilians are (in my mind) delusional.

[Orrex]

20. No one is arguing that they're equivalent

Instead, it's been pointed out that Israel isn't the 100% innocent victim that it's asserted to be. The encroaching settlements, though claimed to be a matter of sovereignty and "defense against rocket attacks," are in fact a deliberate state policy of aggression against Palestinians.

The entire world recognizes this, except for Israel itself and the nation that thinks of Israel as its 51st state.

To pretend that Israel is blameless and is simply defending itself against the relentless rocket attacks by Hamas (which have killed, on average, one person per year since 2001) is delusional.

[leftynyc]

40. I don't seen anyone saying

Israel is 100% innocent. Just lots of "yeah, but" when it comes to rockets raining down. And this isn't hamas (who represent the Palestinians in Gaza) that did this. This was Iran's islamic jihad who has taken responsibility. that the Israeli's have gotten extremely lucky in that more people aren't dead is completely besides the point.

[cali]

42. sorry, I think what Israel has done to the Palestinians dwarfs

the terror attacks and rockets- which needless to say I condemn strongly and abhor.

I also abhor the inhumane treatment, imprisonment, killings and oppression and occupation of the Palestinians by the Israelis over a period of decades.

[leftynyc]

43. I disagree

Probably because my family members are the ones who have to deal with this every single day of their lives. The Palesintians put their trust in people who couldn't care less about them.

[malaise]

29. I don't see a word abou thte Jordianian judge who was killed at the border

Even the Jordanian government has protested.

[Fozzledick]

4. Actually this is probably because Iran is afraid that the peace talks ARE working

so they decided to throw a monkey wrench into the works.

[Orrex]

9. Funding by foreign powers definitely throws a monkey wrench into the region

No question.

[Fozzledick]

11. Do you really think funding defense is the same as funding terrorism?

Or are you trying to imply that it's worse without saying so outright?

[Orrex]

17. I imagine that different parties would identify different policies as terrorism

As I noted above, there are very few "innocent parties" in charge on either side

And as always, the victims are mostly civilians and mostly low-income.

[Fozzledick]

24. Yeah, some parties try to identify stopping the rocket attacks as terrorism.

And the implied second half of that "both sides are bad" argument is usually "so vote Republican". Somewhat different circumstance, but I can see the logic.

[Orrex]

25. You're right--collective punishment is terrorism

Such as starving an impoverished population for the purpose of effecting political change.

[Fozzledick]

27. Doubling down on a lie doesn't make it true.

[Orrex]

28. How is it a lie? Do you deny the impact of the blockade? On what basis?

And do you believe that Israel is an innocent, irreproachable victim in all of this?

[Fozzledick]

31. Claims of starving children in Gaza are definitely a Big Lie.

And anyone whose ideological dogma requires them to rationalize the rocket attacks against civilians is too obtuse to take seriously.

[Orrex]

35. How many dead Palestinians will be enough for you?

Three Palestinians were killed in the most recent airstrike. That's 3X the number of Israelis killed annually these deadly rocket attacks since 2001.

Anyone whose ideological dogma defends Israel in defiance of reality is ill-equipped to take anything seriously.

[Fozzledick]

39. I think you've proven my points well enough.

No point in belaboring the obvious.

[Orrex]

46. Neither of us has proved your points.

[Capt. Obvious]

45. You're rubber

He's glue.

[Orrex]

47. When you put it like that, it sounds dirty.

Or does it?

[cpwm17]

14. The inmates are misbehaving nt

[Capt. Obvious]

23. Following Airstrikes, Gaza Militants Fire Large Rocket Barrage At Israel

From the known anti-semite website TPM

[Orrex]

32. The airstrikes were to punish the Palestinians for not starving quickly enough

[Capt. Obvious]

33. Israel was just minding its own business

when rockets!

[larkrake]

30. oh Hell, just let them kill each other off

It really is not our business

[cpwm17]

36. Actually it is

Outside of Israel, the US is the most responsible for the Palestinians' plight of any country in the world. The US seriously owes the Palestinians.

[leftynyc]

41. What a load of horseshit

Nobody is more responsible than their Muslim brothers and sisters who first convinced them to leave their land so Israeli's could be driven into the sea. Now the Palestinians are only a pawn used by those respective governments to get their people distracted from the fact their governments are nothing but corrupt assholes. They've promised piles of money and have given nothing. There are reasons nobody in that neighborhood gives a shit about the Palestinians, you may want to look them up. Blaming the US is laughably pathetic.

[larkrake]

48. the us sells arms to any country, and supports Israel financially

We shouldnt support any country financially but our own. Israel is a bully, almost as much of one as the US. I am for closing all foreign bases and quit inserting puppet rulers who turn into dictators. Rely on trade alone for our contact with all nations. We do not owe anyone anything. Isolationism for the short term is the only way to reboot the US, then never let extremes rule us again. Israel is quite capable of handling its own troubles and maybe is will learn diplomacy for once. Yes, they will annihilate the Palistinians, showing their true colors. Religion has always destroyed cultures, it wont stop