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edhopper

(33,587 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:08 PM Mar 2014

Vets, is a non-vet wearing a piece of military garb offensive?

Practical question. I think the boonie hat is great, light weight, good shade, foldable. I also like the 3 and 6 color desert design2. Truthful, the ones that aren't camo make me look like the "stupid dad going fishing" from some lame commercial.

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A lot of people who did not serve wear military items, but do Vets find this offensive or is it just army surplus?

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Vets, is a non-vet wearing a piece of military garb offensive? (Original Post) edhopper Mar 2014 OP
no more than a floridian wearing a kilt snooper2 Mar 2014 #1
Yeah edhopper Mar 2014 #2
went to a Celtic Festival in St Augustine this past Saturday - lots of Floridians in kilts DrDan Mar 2014 #5
The sad part is the wheels are an even bigger offense to taste than the camo Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #13
Complete non-issue MattBaggins Mar 2014 #3
It doesn't bother me at all. Glorfindel Mar 2014 #4
absolutely not DrDan Mar 2014 #6
I'm one of those fishermen. I wear a green MineralMan Mar 2014 #7
A friend of mine bought a shirt/jacket from a surplus store that was a vintage sailor uniform top okaawhatever Mar 2014 #14
Well, the rules on military bases are not without reasons. MineralMan Mar 2014 #16
Oh no, I agree. It was funny though that someone on active duty would be caught for that. Those okaawhatever Mar 2014 #22
Thanks all edhopper Mar 2014 #8
Hell, I tossed all mine as soon as I got out. Good riddance. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #9
I tossed everything but my fatigues. MineralMan Mar 2014 #23
Are codpieces military garb? onehandle Mar 2014 #10
I bought that exact hat when I was 19 from army surplus Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #11
Posed this question to my (veteran) dad. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #12
ROFL. Your Dad sounds like just about every other military guy I know including my family members nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #18
I think your dad nailed it. bluedigger Mar 2014 #25
Not to me. At least as long as I never have to wear it again, and more importantly my sons ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #15
The opinion of my Army vet husband was... MadrasT Mar 2014 #17
No problem with this … Vox Moi Mar 2014 #19
No why should it be offensive? upaloopa Mar 2014 #20
When I was a stude we wore army surplus all the time. sibelian Mar 2014 #21
Not offensive to me MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #24
no....eom Demonaut Mar 2014 #26
In my part of the world, cammies are so common Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #27
I have one of those but it's in a nice blue color for fishing 30cal Mar 2014 #28
The Military suppliers sell them new to the public edhopper Mar 2014 #29
I was traveling through Nebraska on I-80 near Lincoln in the late 90s. Maedhros Mar 2014 #30
As long as they aren't wearing Dress with medals attached Bandit Mar 2014 #31
Doesn't bother me as long as the rank and unit insignia is removed. CVN-68 Mar 2014 #32
As a vet who left all his Army gear in the dumpster... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #33
It's a great casual hat for the Street edhopper Mar 2014 #34
Not at all. Army surplus is good, cheap, sturdy clothing. Aristus Mar 2014 #35
Uniform items no. Medals and ribbons yes. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #36
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. no more than a floridian wearing a kilt
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:11 PM
Mar 2014

This is offensive though, that was a perfectly good Firebird

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
5. went to a Celtic Festival in St Augustine this past Saturday - lots of Floridians in kilts
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:14 PM
Mar 2014

no one seemed offended to me . . . of course, the irish whiskey and Murphy's might have helped

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
13. The sad part is the wheels are an even bigger offense to taste than the camo
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:24 PM
Mar 2014

I'm glad Mr. DeLorean isn't around to see that...

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
4. It doesn't bother me at all.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:13 PM
Mar 2014

But, then, I always thought the uniforms were tacky and was glad to be rid of them.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. I'm one of those fishermen. I wear a green
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:16 PM
Mar 2014

boonie hat. I'm also a veteran, and don't give a damn if people wear quasi-military clothing.

In fact, one of my winter jackets is an olive drab Swedish Army Parka. A great buy as surplus, it cost me only $15.00. It's a great, well made jacket, and still has a Swedish shoulder insignia on it.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
14. A friend of mine bought a shirt/jacket from a surplus store that was a vintage sailor uniform top
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

from another country. He went somewhere on post and they wouldn't let him in since he was in "partial military attire". He was like, "this ship has been at the bottom of the drink for years." They still wouldn't let him in. lolz.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. Well, the rules on military bases are not without reasons.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:27 PM
Mar 2014

These days, I'm never on a military base, though.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
22. Oh no, I agree. It was funny though that someone on active duty would be caught for that. Those
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:34 PM
Mar 2014

rules are in place for civilians.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
8. Thanks all
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:17 PM
Mar 2014

you never know, and since it's only a hat, not worth offending Vets by wearing it.
Good to know it's okay.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
9. Hell, I tossed all mine as soon as I got out. Good riddance.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:17 PM
Mar 2014

If any of he wannabees had wanted to take my place when I was in, they would have been more than welcome to my clothes, including the skivvies.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. I tossed everything but my fatigues.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:36 PM
Mar 2014

I wore those for years while doing yardwork, painting, and other chores. They finally wore out.

I did strip off all insignia, though.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. I bought that exact hat when I was 19 from army surplus
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:20 PM
Mar 2014

and loved it...stylish and surprisingly durable...

My parents didn't seem to mind, but I remember my uncle being incensed over me wearing it; and even though he didn't force me to get rid of it, I gave the hat away to make him happy...

Neither my parents, my uncle or I ever served, so I don't even remember the reason why he was so displeased with it....

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
12. Posed this question to my (veteran) dad.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:22 PM
Mar 2014

With the qualifier that he can't be bothered to give much of a fuck about what someone else chooses to wear, he said, "wearing decorations and maybe unit insignia you didn't earn has always been the mark of a jackass, but everything else is fair game."

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
15. Not to me. At least as long as I never have to wear it again, and more importantly my sons ...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

never have to put it on for the first time, I don't give a shit.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
17. The opinion of my Army vet husband was...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:28 PM
Mar 2014

...it is perfectly OK, but if you buy military garb secondhand, any attached rank insignia should be removed.

Long ago, I had a secondhand green wool long coat (Marine) that I wore all the time, and when I met him, he gave me a severe talking-to about parading around in Sergeant stripes I hadn't earned.



I never wore it again. One of these days, maybe I'll take the stripes off... it just looks so beautiful with the red stripes I can't bear to take them off. But I won't wear it.

Not a vet myself, but I do wear a lot of Army surplus garb, it's practical and comfortable... my M65 field jacket is my favorite piece of clothing, ever. And I am shopping for a boonie hat, myself.

Vox Moi

(546 posts)
19. No problem with this …
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:31 PM
Mar 2014

In the Viet Nam era it was not that uncommon for young civilians to wear uniform jackets with stripes on the sleeve.
The only thing what would bother me is anyone - veteran or not - wearing ribbons or medals they did not earn.

BTW: Military field gear (hats, boots, packs) have improved a lot over the years.
It should be so good that civilians would want to use it … not because it is military, but because it's good gear.


sibelian

(7,804 posts)
21. When I was a stude we wore army surplus all the time.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:33 PM
Mar 2014

Reason being - it was cheap.

We used to dye it all black, though.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
27. In my part of the world, cammies are so common
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:48 PM
Mar 2014

that nobody pays any attention, and there's nothing about that hat that particularly marks it as military, as opposed to something you bought at a sporting goods store for bowhunting or something.

As a VN vet, I've never had a problem with people wearing odd bits of military gear anyway.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
29. The Military suppliers sell them new to the public
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:02 PM
Mar 2014

Since I don't care about "authentic combat" but just like the hat, I would probably buy a new rather than surplus.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
30. I was traveling through Nebraska on I-80 near Lincoln in the late 90s.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:07 PM
Mar 2014

I was helping a friend move to Madison WI from Oregon, back in my dreadlocked hippy activist days. I was wearing my brother's army jacket (no insignia) and we stopped at a rest area.

Some guy in the restroom took it upon himself to lecture me on what a "disgrace" I was bringing to the American Empire by daring to wear an army jacket with long hair.

Apparently, some people do care - A LOT.

I try to stay away from Nebraska now.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
31. As long as they aren't wearing Dress with medals attached
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:11 PM
Mar 2014

They can wear all the fatigues they wish. Most are civilian anyway, just made to look military. Once they get into wearing real uniforms, that to me is upsetting.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
33. As a vet who left all his Army gear in the dumpster...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:20 PM
Mar 2014

I'm not offended by anyone wearing this stuff who isn't trying to con us into believing he or she was in the service.

I just wonder why anyone would want to.

(OK, I get that some of it's good stuff, and I get hunting, but for street wear?)

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
34. It's a great casual hat for the Street
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:15 PM
Mar 2014

and covers much more than a baseball cap.
I have very fair skin and sometimes where a broad ban hat, but it is bulky when you go inside.
This one is much more portable.

Why desert camo? I like the way it looks.

Aristus

(66,386 posts)
35. Not at all. Army surplus is good, cheap, sturdy clothing.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:33 PM
Mar 2014

As with the above vets, I prefer that wearers not also sport insignia and awards, though.

I admit to being a little ticked, although amused as well, when I see pics of those fat, bearded gunfucks waddling around in the woods in Army surplus, trying to live out some pathetic Rambo fantasy. But hey, if that's the only thing that can give their worthless lives some meaning, go for it.

But if a college student or a hunter wants to wear military surplus, I have no problem with that.

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