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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDEVELOPING: Oil Rig Worker Claims He Saw #MH370 Go Down In Flames, Gives Location
As with everything else so far, there could be absolutely nothing to this.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)??
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Some sort of explosion on board?
Possibly a terror attack?
2banon
(7,321 posts)Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)
A HERETIC I AM This message was self-deleted by its author.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)No doubt it will be confirmed or debunked indue time.
Iwasthere
(3,168 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)alsame
(7,784 posts)scenario is, I hope it's true so the families and loved ones can at least have some closure.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)johnp3907
(3,732 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)The possible debris area is 60 kilometers (37 miles) southeast of the Vietnamese coastal city of Vung Tau...
A plane alerted Hong Kong air traffic controllers about the discovery, the Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam said in a statement on its website. Malaysian officials said they were directing ships toward the Hong Kong region, and Vietnam said the multinational search flotilla totaled 40 vessels, backed by 34 aircraft...
Or maybe the guy's message DID get through...Finally, something about this story that makes sense.
rocktivity
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Don't spread the word. Country could become a target for invasion.
CIA Helped Bush Sr in Oil Venture
Small war. I mean, world.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)It was a VN-Soviet venture originally. It's hard to miss the big Russian housing complex and Russian department store in Vung Tau.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)He's saying that the plane was 40 miles due west of that location - significantly east of the search areas.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)But they are supposed to be continuing the search.
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1446055/more-vessels-join-search-after-no-debris-found-southern-vietnam
kracer20
(199 posts)I thought I heard or read somewhere that one of the GPS imaging satellites was scanning the area and they were going to ask the public to scan the images for signs of debris. Anyone heard any more of this?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Maybe that is why the Chinese looked at the images of that location. As you say, that is significantly east of where the plane was thought to be so no one was looking there. From what I've read of this oil worker's info, he sent it to various governments in the area and only came out in public after he got no response.
Maybe the Chinese only began examining images in that area when they saw his letter?
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)AND his passport number? Is that sort of thing common in that part of the world?
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)The fact that he did just shows that he doesn't want officials believing he's just a crank nor waste time trying to verify who he is in order to figure out whether he was a crank or not.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Would not adding his passport number open him up to identity theft?
I'm simply expressing puzzlement here. I know I wouldn't sign a letter with my full name and SS#, although I might sign something with my name and employee ID#.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)If he was worried about ID theft why would he contact them at all when with wasting time verifying his identity they'd know far more about him than just his passport number. He gave them information they would have found out anyway but would have had to waste time researching and verifying. Come on, you really believe that in sending that information to authorities that those authorities were not going to turn over every rock concerning absolutely everything about him anyway? That they'd be satisfied with just his name and employee ID number? He already knew he'd be scrutinized far more than just his identity and would find out everything there was to know about him, so why try to hide that information when it would only waste the time of the authorities finding out that information or worse make them think he was just some crank by holding back on that information for no logical reason instead of giving it up front.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)if I thought I had important information of some kind. Probably the essential point is this: would it even occur to me that my message would be widely disseminated? If I didn't even think of that, of course I'd put personal information into my message so that they could verify who I am.
I'm thinking that for me the take-away is that I need to assume that anything at all I put out there is going to be available to the world at large. I happen to be the unique possessor of my first and last name, in that I am the only person in this country with that first and last name, and I don't think anyone in any other country has it either. I need to be very cautious about what I put out there.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I also have a first and last name that is unique though I don't know if it's the only one in the world. I know it's the only one in my county, and that's disquieting enough. Like you, I don't feel at all comfortable giving out my full name and nothing else which is also why I never use it in any connection with my computer.
In this situation though, he already knew in sending the letter that everything about him was going to be discovered by authorities anyway, and I doubt that some boob putting the letter on the internet without redacting his personal info had ever occurred to him (I doubt it would have occurred to me either especially considering that such documents are routinely put out into the media with personal information redacted). Seeing as his letter was a second or even third attempt to get someone in authority to take his information seriously considering that there was one or two attempts of his trying to relay what he saw that got no response that probably also had a lot to do with what information he gave in the letter.
In his place if it were me knowing how important I believed the information was especially to the grieving families as well as knowing that such information would be discovered anyway but only waste the time of the authorities in having to seek it out to verify who I was and the info I gave I too would have freely given identity info to save that wasted time and not thought at all that someone was so stupid as to put the information out on the internet without first redacting such personal information. I wouldn't even have thought that the letter would have been put out so publicly in the first place at all when no other information had been. Then again, I also live in a country that when I give information to someone in authority whether an employment application or court papers or whatever it isn't going to be made public at all or if it is that such personal information would be routinely redacted. The biggest thing I'd have been thinking would have been probably the same as this guy was - that it was vital information that was needed to be taken seriously, knowing that everything about the sender would be discovered and scrutinized in order for authorities to verify not only the identity of the person giving the information but the veracity of the claims anyway and in a "beat the clock" situation as well as when authorities had already seemed to blow it off when he first made one or two attempts to get someone in authority to take the information seriously that was believed to have failed.
I'm actually very surprised that someone in authority put the actual letter out into the public in the first place rather than just revealing some or all of it's contents and really surprised that it was given out without any of either his personal information being redacted as well as some information of the receiver of the information. I'm hard-pressed to think of a time when that's happened, but again, that's in my own country where it's customary to not give out sensitive info in the first place and instead quote from that info and when the original is given out that the authorities redact personal information and the media does also in the event that someone in authority goofed and handed original info to the media without first redacting.
After so many days of this though it's looking more and more that the Malaysian authorities are woefully disorganized in verifying information, public relations and even the search itself with several countries complaining about no one seeming to be in charge. But I also think the media has been a disgrace of misquoting, spreading rumors and not updating or correcting information.
brooklynite
(94,597 posts)...and the reports of a liferaft in the Malacca Strait.
Unfortunately, the reports cannot all be right, but they can all be wrong.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...I sure hope they find those ''Malaysian and Vietnamese officials'' that he contacted several days ago and reprimand them.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)and no one else is saying that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10687223/Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-plane-crash-live.html
jsr
(7,712 posts)The mention that this email originated on FR does seem to reduce its credibility.
jsr
(7,712 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)That would move floating wreckage in a south by southeast direction.
IIRC, the Chinese satellite photo was taken about a day after the disappearance.