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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFL teacher who routinely tweets ‘OBAMA IS A P*SSY’ upset at exclusion from Obama event
A social studies teacher at a Florida high school is claiming that his right to free speech was violated when school administrators barred him from a recent appearance of President Barack Obama.
Coral Reef Senior High teacher Randall Scott had said that he would rather dine in Hell with Satan than shake the presidents hand, and described himself as a virulent anti-Communist and hater of Obamanism.
Scott told his side of the story in a letter he posted on Instagram. Im a conservative Republican who uses social media to express my views, he wrote. At the last two faculty meetings our principal had strongly advised us not to post anything. As a citizen of this great country I chose to ignore her advise [sic] which now in retrospect seems more like a veiled threat.
The next day, he continued, Im suddenly excluded from a presidential event.
Miami-Dade County Public Schools spokesman John Schuster said in a statement that the size and setup of the event venue did not permit all of the schools staff and students to attend, and local administrators were required to decide who would attend to represent the school.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/12/fl-teacher-who-routinely-tweets-obama-is-a-pssy-upset-at-exclusion-from-obama-event/
Huh. Go figure.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)Of course, this is just excuse number 2,385,497,526 for victim outrage.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)You were advised and chose to ignore the advice.
http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/advice_advise.htm
And it was not a "veiled threat" but letting you know actions may have consequences.
Teachers should know better.
joeglow3
(6,228 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)It must suck to be such a hypocrite.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)I see it all the time, here on DU as well.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)I noticed that too.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)to an Obama event in the first place? I sure wouldn't go to a Ted Nugent concert.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)This could have been truly entertaining for our side. Obama would have had him dragged up to the stage and forced him to debate at the first "you lie," which you know the asshole wanted to do.
But seriously...If he's so anti government why does he work for it? Florida has no shortage of madrassas.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)"But seriously...If he's so anti government why does he work for it?"
that question once on Yahoo Answers, and the reasoning that the RW commenters gave was to basically keep the government from doing too much.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Typical, just typical.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Spirochete
(5,264 posts)He was set on causing trouble. And gets outraged because he's not invited. What a knob!
deutsey
(20,166 posts)He thought this was his big moment of 15 minutes of FOX fame, I bet.
So now it's Plan B: I wuz censorated by the evil socialists!!11!!1
Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)He hates BHO so why would he want to dine with him? Didn't he say he'd rather dine in hell?
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'm sure he's gotten the attention of those who find his language objectionable, too!
I live in a community where that kind of thing would be frowned upon; it would reflect poorly on the school, and all that...
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Because the devil was busy?
Lasher
(27,597 posts)Party of the damned, table for one.
Aristus
(66,387 posts)Were you put in jail for tweeting that, you hamhock? Huh?
If not, then nobody violated your freedom of speech!. Jesus!
MADem
(135,425 posts)Maybe we ought to exercise OUR freedom of speech and tell those idiots who employ this dumbkopf how we feel about this moron?
knight4444
(4 posts)Why do the majority of over the top republicans who talk like randall scott always look like a extra in a WW2 hitler propaganda film?? lets keep it real, everybody and their mother knows that POS is a racist!
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)He's free to enjoy his life and continue tweeting to his little grinch-sized heart's content.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)both the "social" and "studies" parts.
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Cha
(297,305 posts)struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Cha
(297,305 posts)who objected to his rants in class. I'm wondering if any of the admins wish they could fire his ass?
He brings shame on their school.. this doesn't seem like it's going to end well. His brainwashed hate could implode him at this rate.
He needs mugs shots of bush-cheney up there to show who the real traitors are.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)DEMAND to transfer him/her to another class. If they wouldn't accommodate, I would sue the shit out of the school.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's not "free speech"--it's the judgment of the administration in hiring a loony tune.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)toby jo
(1,269 posts)Or learning that he's teaching your kids. Ouch.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)He's allowed in rooms with impressionable teenagers for hours at a time.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)But a teacher? A Social Studies teacher?
He says he's an anti-communist. Hey pal, there haven't been any real communists for decades.
Miami-Dade schools ought to recognize what an embarrassment this clown is and deal with it.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Look, I work for a TV station and I was told that I could no longer say that I work for the station on my Facebook page or stop posting political items. I took off that I work for the station. Simple!! Now I post what I want. I just don't say I work here. Whatever!
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)female teacher who poses nude gets fired and he doesn't? Aren't both issues about character? What about this guys character?
Vogon_Glory
(9,118 posts)It's OK as long as you are a Republican, of course. Democrats and progressives don't even get a third as much leeway.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)from the event with President Obama.
If a teacher had done this while Bush was president, then that teacher should have been excluded as well.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Not the mention the death threats from the wingnuts when it went public.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)the Secret Service are certainly aware of this guy and his whereabouts qnd activities, on social media and otherwise.
Idiots like these are a dime a dozen.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)because he wasn't allowed to attend the event.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Why are you stirring up shit?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)written regarding actions of the Bush White House taken against Democrats?
How the hell does that have anything to do with the OP? Let me remind you of your quote:
"And some people here would be calling this a police state because he wasn't allowed to attend the event."
Your response is perhaps the most miserable fail I've seen on DU. You should be fucking embarrassed.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)The OP was about someone who wasn't allowed to attend the president's event because of his personal opinions about the president. The old thread from the * years is about people who weren't allowed to attend a * event because of their personal opinions. And what did the thread start with? "Welcome to the police state, everyone!"
Sorry you thought you were going to call me out and it turned out I was able to back up my assertion, you're the one who should be embarrassed. Feel free to follow up with a "Yes but it was different then because (insert some difference that's irrelevant to the actual point here)", or you could just continue on with your attempt to bully me, but since your argument itself is a loser, I don't think you'll have much luck with either.
demwing
(16,916 posts)You got caught stirring up shit and could only scrape up the most pathetic example of a bullshit excuse for your bullshit post.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)a police state. Then I posted proof that it ACTUALLY happened. Sorry if you don't like the fact that it's true, but despite your efforts to dismiss it as shit stirring, bullshit, and pathetic, you've done nothing to show my statement is, in any way, UNTRUE.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Different decade, much different administration, completely different circumstances.
FAIL.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)People wouldn't say this about a Democratic administration. They did say it about a repuke one. That's my point.
As far as "different decade" goes, that is exactly what I was referring to when I suggested you insert some difference that's irrelevant to the actual point.
It's funny, because I suggested a few posts ago that you could either try to go with a "it was different then because" post OR you could just attempt to bully me but neither was going to do much to my argument. Then you followed it up with an attempt to bully me and then a "it was different then because..." post. If you had listened to me before, you could have saved yourself some time.
demwing
(16,916 posts)still don't
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)and they would have held him until the event was over and Bush left town. Remember that guy who said he couldn't stand George Bush, while at a health club? Someone there reported him, and he was hauled in by the SS. The same for the young guy who had a parody poster of Bush, and someone who came to his door reported him, and he was visited by the SS. This guy would have not fared well had he been such a rage-filled democrat instead during the era of Bush.
geomon666
(7,512 posts)I should've known filth like this was in that school.
flvegan
(64,408 posts)At least according to his internet rant.
Honestly, I've got a bit of faith in Obama that if miscreant idiots like this "teacher" want to show up and shout about how they don't know much about anything, and our Prez can laugh it off as it should be, then so be it. Derail morons whining about how they were wronged while also pointing out just how stupid they are. Win win. We should never stifle the posting of random shitwits of the Republican ilk on the interwebs. Because entertaining.
Sadly, the problem is bigger than this. Randall Scott seems to be what one might call a teacher. An educator of the youth. Dine with Satan? Hey chilly, Charlie Manson probably finds you quite amusing...but in a good way.
Fucking moron. Amateur.
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Cha
(297,305 posts)we have to smell it, stupid.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Now I'm going to sent him a nasty tweet. I love doing that.
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alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)You know, eat and shake hands with the devil.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)...and they decided not to bring the asshole.
Go figure.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)And if my child were being subjected to this fuckwit's "teaching," I'd be on the phone with the school's administration this morning, demanding some radical changes.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)and dealing with the Florida schools and administrations, is an absolute freakin' nightmare. The teachers are super nice, the District people are totally paranoid and militaristic. Every other State seems to have the nicest administrations.. but I dread having to deal with most of the Florida schools.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)I have lots of old friends who are teachers and school administrators, here in Texas. Not a single one of them exhibits the sort of drooling right-wing hatred that this guy does. The state school board is a different matter, of course.
Moral Compass
(1,521 posts)If I was a parent that had a child that was in this "teachers" class I would be conferencing with school administration about his qualifications to teach a core subject such as social studies. Social studies is one of those courses that offers ample opportunity for plenty of teacher sourced editorial opinion. I can imagine the impact this supposedly mature adult is having on his impressionable young victims (err students).
He shouldn't just be excluded from a campus event, but from the campus.
William769
(55,147 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)"A weed smoking Kenyan is your president. And he is in charge of your health care."
Scary that he teaches children
Looking further down his timeline, one sees he's in love with Putin. No surprise
"What a loser. The guy on right pretending to be the leader of the free world @ PUTIN IS THE MAN http://instagram.com/p/lLqJoqE4fh/"
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I'm rubbing my thumb and forefinger together.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)My heart bleeds for you? lol I had a girlfriend back in college that would say that.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:09 PM - Edit history (1)
event for something similar?
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Stratosgc
(37 posts)If you drove to a venuye where the Shrub was speaking and you had Democrat pumper stickers on your car you were excluded.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)for not just being a different party but just differing from him in any way.
this guy isn't disagreeing on policy or anything like that. he is just a jackass .
hughee99
(16,113 posts)in any way?
Yes, this guy is a jackass. My point is if he were a jackass opposed to * when he was president, some people here would be crying foul.
A good rule of thumb, if some event occurs and you're not sure whose side to take until you find out what their political leanings are, you might want to take a second look at your own values.
JI7
(89,252 posts)to attend an event.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Maybe I have been asleep, but I haven't heard this one before.
Could it be the new haters' meme?
onethatcares
(16,172 posts)how he feels about the Dixie Chix
jsr
(7,712 posts)LOL
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)to be an asshole.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)delusional mind and fringe mental state.
Stratosgc
(37 posts)Former Pres Shrub had the Secret Service block potential attendees from public events where he was speaking by turning them away in the parking lot if their cars had Democratic bumper stickers. The explanation was that they were a security risk.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)This idiot should not complain
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)must be nonexistent. That this dolt teaches children is a scandal all to itself.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)I mean, maybe things really have changed that much since I was a high school student in the '70s, but back then, calling someone a p*ss7 wasn't something that was tolerated even from students, let alone teachers (that is not to say students never said such things -- of course they did but if I teacher heard you say it, you would be sent to the principal's office). There was just a level of professional decorum expected of teachers, and with very rare exception, they avoided injecting their personal political views into classroom discussions.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)posted facebook screeds about how Scott was an ignorant, teabagging asshole teacher who adores a Communist ( Putin ) that Scott would be the first one to invite that student to his birthday party....NOT.
I just have to laugh at those idjits who love them some Putin but then turn around and claim Obama is the commie they must fear.
You can't even make UP that level of STUUUUUUUUUPID.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)To the nearest hole and toss him in it. His freedom to be a dumbass is still intact
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)No. he's a ranting, frothing, zealot. Good luck GOP if that is the face of "conservative republicans." The lunatic fringe is now your MAINSTREAM.
Judging from the things that he's posted, the School Board should tread carefully with him. If you have a high school social studies teacher posting things like that, with an obvious disrespect for civics, and a torrid passion for automatic weapons... it may not end well. Reminds me of some of those stories we've seen of city council members, or city employees, that burst into meetings violently because they believe that they're being persecuted.
ETA- Not to mention the fact that the fucktwit probably couldn't pass the security screening for the event. Makes you wonder how many illegal weapons that dude is stockpiling... way to call attention to yourself.
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A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)free speech zones? You know, the ones that were set up blocks away from the main event and were usually completely fenced in.
Lasher
(27,597 posts)This guy is a hypocrite.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Gin
(7,212 posts)Pinkflamingo
(177 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)I will have to re-read my copy of the Constitution again
And the guy is a social studies teacher???? WTF???
To Mr Scott,
Enjoy your lunch with satan
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)I'm pissed this guy is in the classroom. Never once did I allow my personal and political views to be known by my students. I'm sure they figured out I was a liberal but I never let them know. I taught them the facts and allowed them to learn.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)You get to say whatever you want without consequences. One would think that a social studies teacher would know that.
africanadian
(92 posts)America, you're in deep shit.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)taotzu
(44 posts)It amazes me that he would be upset about not being in attendance at a function with a man that he despises with his entire being. I would think that he would be okay with not having to attend so he could go out and protest the event with those like minded as himself. I would like to hear what the student body has to say about a self-absorbed teacher whose opinions they have to listen to on a daily basis ? If he thinks the President is such a "PUSSY" then he should be okay not attending this event.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)argh!
libodem
(19,288 posts)Giant elbows from the sky into his neck.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)SirRevolutionary
(579 posts)But you had your 8 yrs to attend an appearance when Cheney was was in FL. He who hesitates is lost.
complain jane
(4,302 posts)I can't believe this guy teaches kids. How is this even possible?
Oldtimeralso
(1,937 posts)A "Free Speech Zone" as the use was greatly expanded during GWB's reign.
I was forced to stand in a fenced in (topped with barbed wire) paved parking lot on a 90+ degree day and not allowed to bring in even an water! Even though in a past administration I had a top-level Secret Service clearance.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)You can disagree with a president on principles etc.. but you should not make it vocal to your students. As a teacher .. one should show respect for the office. But then this is FL ... and I am sure his point of view is mirrored with many of the student's parents.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)lose his paycheck from that group who pays people to post on the 'net tubes under the 101st Armchair Brigade banner? [attempt at joke] I don't know the name of the program but they pay trolls to post - you know, like on DU. Is there an official name? Something catchy and easy to remember that will roll into a meme that we can all use when we see that behavior on all website discussions ...why hasn't this been done yet? I'm not that clever...
Anyway - will he lose those dimes now that he has really been outed?