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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:09 PM Mar 2014

'Pawn Stars' Shop May Have Melted Stolen $50,000 Coin Collection


'Pawn Stars' Shop May Have Melted Stolen $50,000 Coin Collection

A man whose $50,000 coin collection was first stolen, then hocked, cannot recover it from Las Vegas' famous "Pawn Stars" pawn shop. Reason: The hock shop claims it melted the coins down.

According to a criminal complaint filed by the State of Nevada in Clark County Justice Court, a coin collection valued by its owner, David Walters, at up to $50,000, was stolen from Walters' Las Vegas home in November 2013 by Walters' niece, Jennifer Beckman.

Court documents say Walters' collection--kept in a bag hidden under a dresser--contained such rarities as a 1903 St. Gaudens $20 gold piece and Silver Morgan coins from the 1880s. It also contained contemporary 1 oz. American Buffalo gold pieces.

The complaint alleges Beckman stole the collection in installments, taking parts of it on three different occasions to Las Vegas' Gold and Silver Pawn shop, where, it says, she sold them. The shop is the setting for the hit History Channel TV series "Pawn Stars."

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/pawn-stars-pawn-shop-melted-stolen-coins/story?id=22851656
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'Pawn Stars' Shop May Have Melted Stolen $50,000 Coin Collection (Original Post) The Straight Story Mar 2014 OP
Why would they melt them down if it wasn't to hide the evidence warrior1 Mar 2014 #1
they would be melted down sabbat hunter Mar 2014 #3
Yep. greytdemocrat Mar 2014 #7
well based on the article sabbat hunter Mar 2014 #2
Probably because he is cheap. former9thward Mar 2014 #5
aw heck i was hoping they would move to msnbc for a new show-pawn shop stars behind bars dembotoz Mar 2014 #4
They waited plenty of time. Codeine Mar 2014 #6
AGREED! democratisphere Mar 2014 #8
Pawn Stars is so fake. Planted "customers" and pre-arranged deals. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #9
a reality show faked? sabbat hunter Mar 2014 #10
LOL, I know! :-) Logical Mar 2014 #11
Of course, but it's still more interesting than Hardcore Pawn. Incitatus Mar 2014 #12
Yes, I like seeing the stuff they bring in and the story behind it...... Logical Mar 2014 #13
Not buying it... sendero Mar 2014 #14
Condition is a big factor VScott Mar 2014 #15
The representation is.. sendero Mar 2014 #16
The guy who said that he owned them claims that they are worth $50K. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #17
The only one representing them as worth $50,000 CVN-68 Mar 2014 #18
The original owner claimed they were worth 50k VScott Mar 2014 #19
My dad has a couple of bank bags filled with old coins. Jenoch Mar 2014 #20

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
3. they would be melted down
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:28 PM
Mar 2014

if they would be worth more for their bullion value than for the value as a coin.

Additionally, did the owner have the coins insured? Is there any proof other than his word that they are worth 50k?

Smells fishy to me.

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
2. well based on the article
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:21 PM
Mar 2014

the shop is not at fault, the followed the law of what they are supposed to do with items that are pawned/sold to them. David Walters waited too long to report the theft.

Why was he keeping such valuable items in his home in a plastic bag under a dresser, instead of in either a safe at his home, or a safe deposit box?

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
12. Of course, but it's still more interesting than Hardcore Pawn.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:31 PM
Mar 2014

You at least see some cool items and learn a few tidbits about history. Watching people scream that their fake jewelry is real and demand money for 30 year old tvs and broken electronics gets old real fast.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
13. Yes, I like seeing the stuff they bring in and the story behind it......
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:36 PM
Mar 2014

but I would be happy if they just admitted it is a set up.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
14. Not buying it...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:38 PM
Mar 2014

..... even a duffer could identify such coins as valuable. No way they melted these coins, not a chance.

 

VScott

(774 posts)
15. Condition is a big factor
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 09:49 PM
Mar 2014

Thrown under the bed in a bag doesn't give me much confidence in how well these coins were maintained, or what shape they were in from the start.

For all we know, the original owner bought a coin guide at a book store, looked up the examples and went with the higher prices.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
17. The guy who said that he owned them claims that they are worth $50K.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:08 PM
Mar 2014

The condition of even rare coins is an important factor in their value. If the coins were in crap shape, they might be worth more melted down.

 

CVN-68

(97 posts)
18. The only one representing them as worth $50,000
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:16 PM
Mar 2014

is the guy they were stolen from.
The Pawn shop in no way did anything wrong and they probably were melted down.

 

VScott

(774 posts)
19. The original owner claimed they were worth 50k
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:21 PM
Mar 2014

Without documentation and proof of their value from a reputable grading service, they have questionable
worth in the coin collectors circle.

Yes... I know "Pawn Stars" is a reality show, and they offer obscenely undervalued prices for the stuff people bring in (what pawn shop doesn't?).

But, these guys are too high profile and have so much of a following that they're not going to risk their reputation for a mere $50,000.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
20. My dad has a couple of bank bags filled with old coins.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:38 PM
Mar 2014

He has a lot of Morgan silver dollars, pre-1964 quarters and dimes, and several hundred steal pennies. He probably should have sold the silver when it was $47/ounce. I don't think any of the coins are woeth more than their value in silver.

I also do not believe any of the stolen coins in this story were worth more than their weight in metal. I'm sure every coin was checked out.

As to Pawn Stars, the show was much more interesting before they started to do the 'Chumlee skits'. Of course the producers are bringing n people with interesting items. They clear the store, out in some extras and record the show. None of the Harrisons or Chumlee are at the store anymore unless they are producing the TV show.

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