If Keystone pipeline goes through WH approval will sink below 30% and stay there sinking Dems

[blm]

all over the country. 2014 will be hard enough for those of us who actually do the groundwork for the local Dem party and affiliated organizations. Keystone approval will make our work so much harder.....and sadder....hard to be enthusiastic when you feel so betrayed.


Posted as a heads up to any and all WH staffers who may monitor DU.

[snooper2]

1. want to make a medium size wager?

[tridim]

2. Yep, DU is in full DERP mode today.

My "WH approval" will likely rise if they paint the exterior with purple polka dots.

[blm]

3. It may seem like that to you, but, after 3 meetings with different Dem groups this week

here in NC, this election is getting tougher for US at every turn and the Keystone deal going through will make it more difficult. We ARE the faithful Dem activists.

[tridim]

4. So, FUD. Lovely.

[SidDithers]

10. Yup. FUD'ers gotta FUD...nt

Sid

[earthside]

5. 2014 is a base election.

Democrats have to stop being so risk averse, being afraid of their own base, stop placating right-wingers -- and motivate liberal and progressive voters.

2014 ought to be a tidal wave for Democrats considering how extreme have become the Tea Party-Repuglicans. But that means Democratic candidates have to be aggressive, bold, unafraid and advocates for progressive policies. It also means the the Democratic Party campaign establishment has to be super negative on the GOP.

So, who thinks that is going to happen?

[blm]

7. Exactly the way it needs to play out.

.

[AgingAmerican]

13. They need to stop taking their base for granted.

nt

[newfie11]

6. If the Democratic Party would show some balls they might win

But when we have Dem politicians pushing TPP and keystone pipeline it's hard to to tell the difference.

[Catherina]

8. I think it's a done deal but I agree with you

Keep on fighting the good fight blm. Rec'd

[blm]

11. Yep, deal was done in 2010 - the rest is dogandpony show. Just wanted to fire a warning shot.

.

[Catherina]

12. I wish I could have a face to face talk with you about this

Unfortunately DU is no longer the place. Basically, I doubt they even care and that's a sad, sorry state of affairs. Thanks for confirming something I sensed about you- genuine care and realism. Much respect blm.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting on this related issue

Live Video: Kerry Holds News Conference After Meeting With Lavrov

http://uk.reuters.com/news/world

Currently 3 hours late so don't hold your breath (hat tip to dipsydoodle in LBN)

[blm]

14. Comprehension plus a retention of relevant historic documentation and events

makes it easier to see the big picture and never forget that it exists as the driving force behind everything happening today.

Hopefully, more will pick up our mantle, C.

[reddread]

9. assume the position n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Deservedly so. But, we will hear the "not as bad" rationale as soon as Obama signs it.

[blm]

16. We've already been hearing it. All those trains that crashed delivering oil were accidents?

I don't think so. I think the Keystone profiteers set up some of those explosions to help scare people TOWARDS accepting the pipeline deal.

[kelliekat44]

17. And if it doesn't go through WH approval will sink below 25% and sta there sinking Dems. nt

[blm]

18. Why do you think so? Most activist Dems are against the pipeline and they are the ones

who end up doing the heaviest lifting in midterm elections. GOP usually has the advantage in every midterm election because they speak ONLY to their base then which drives them to the polls.

Being conciliatory to the right-wingers and big energy on Keystone is NOT a way to motivate the Dem base. It IS the way to demoralize those activists running the Dem ground game in the toughest states.

There is enough data out there and CERTAINLY enough tragic photos out there that would convince most Americans about the tragic consequences of that pipeline. I doubt revealing the extent of the real danger would be a tough sell, especially after WV and NC's recent environmental tragedies.

[Demo_Chris]

19. If it goes through, within a day at least half here will support it. nt

[MO_Moderate]

20. No it won't

in fact, I wouldn't doubt if it goes up a few points.

Shoot, the current price of gas will have more of an impact on his numbers than this will.

[Autumn]

21. Obamas approval ratings mean nothing. He's not running again. The Dems

can either support Obamas decision on the pipeline or not, their choice. IMO the betrayal will be by Obama if he signs it and any Senator or Congress person who supports it. I will not vote in 2014 for someone who supports the approval of the pipeline.