Putin’s media head threatens to turn US into “radioactive ash”

[n2doc]

Vladimir Putin’s propaganda chief, Dmitry Kisilev, the new head of Russian government-run and financed media/propaganda arm RIA Novosti, appeared to threaten to turn the United States into “radioactive ash” today.

Kisilev made the comments on state television in front of an image of a huge mushroom cloud.

Just to further clarify how important Kisilev is, here’s Leonid Ragozin, a former employee of both the BBC and the Russian-language version of Newsweek:

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http://americablog.com/2014/03/putins-media-head-threatens-turn-us-radioactive-ash.html

He does remind me of a punk ass version of Dr. Evil

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http://americablog.com/2014/03/putins-media-head-threatens-turn-us-radioactive-ash.html

[geek tragedy]

1. Yet some morons insist CNN and MSNBC are worse

than Russian state media.

I also wonder if the rt.com-quoting Russopologists will denounce this.

Well, no I don't.

[Cha]

22. The big difference betweetn RT and CNN is

RT is Propaganda for the Russian Government and CNN is Propaganda against This Gov and For the CorpKoch Types. The thing they have in common is Putin is against Gays and so are the Koch idiots.

MSNBC is too broad a brush.. it has it pockets of reality.

[newthinking]

30. foolishness: But the translation isn't a direct threat, rather

He says that (paraphrased)

"the US knows that Russia is the only country that can turn their country into radioactive ash". It is more of an analytical boast of why the "US can't do anything" than a threat.

Certainly a stupid thing for someone at his level of power, but we have those who do much the same do we not?

[pangaia]

32. I was thinking of a recent failed presidential candidate.

[Igel]

42. Speech act.

"It would be a real shame if somebody got newthinking to click on a link that reformatted his hard drive. Oh, by the way, here's a link ..."

Hey, it's a real, heart-felt sentiment. It's not a threat. And if the link just happened to reformat your hard drive ... who knew?

In fact, that kind of utterance is very often a veiled threat. It's like just happening to punch your hand when talking to somebody you want to stay away from your girl. The problem is that it relies crucially on listener interpretation and speaker intent. If you don't want to see the intent (or aren't informed enough to recognize it), you have plausible deniability. At the same time, the speaker also has plausible deniability.

It's a classic when it comes to teenager "this may become a fight" conversations.

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. Hell, Fukishima will do that sooner than later anyhow.n/t

[geek tragedy]

4. Said no scientist ever. nt

[Octafish]

33. They might if they had funding.

I don't know about you, but I find it dissapointing to learn that research on fallout from Fukushima does not get funded in the United States -- even after radioactive sulfur from Fukushima was monitored in Southern California.

Ocean water off La Jolla coast being monitored (and not) for Fukushima radiation

By Pat Sherman
La Jolla Light, Feb. 4, 2014

EXCERPT...

In 2011 Thiemens and a crew of UCSD atmospheric chemists reported the first quantitative measurement of the amount of radiation leaked from the damaged nuclear reactor in Fukushima, following the devastating earthquake and tsunami there.

Their estimate was based on radioactive sulfur that wafted across the Pacific Ocean after operators of the damaged reactor had to cool overheated fuel with seawater — causing a chemical reaction between byproducts of nuclear fission and chlorine ions in the saltwater.

Thiemens has, for the past several years, unsuccessfully sought to obtain grant funding to follow-up his research, first reported on Aug. 15 2011 in the online edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

However, he said neither the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Environmental Protection Agency, California Air Resources Board or National Academy of Sciences (of which he is a member) were interested in funding additional research to measure the Fukushima fallout.

“It’s probably one of these things that just fell through the cracks,” Thiemens said. “It doesn’t quite fall under classical (research criteria).”

CONTINUED...

http://www.lajollalight.com/2014/02/04/ocean-water-off-la-jolla-coast-being-monitored-for-fukushima-radiation/

So, there's that part of the reality.

[joshcryer]

3. This is what empires look like when they're falling.

Russia has really sunk from its peak.

[geek tragedy]

5. Shows the importance of getting the nukes deactivated and destroyed.

The temptation to go North Korea will eventually be too much to resist.

[AverageJoe90]

27. I honestly don't think they will go *that* far.

I am, however, concerned about the possibility of nuclear terrorism(even if it's only slight), perhaps some from rogue ultra-nationalists.....including, perhaps, neo-fascist elements from within Russia. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if there were guys like that in the United Russia party right now, TBH.

[sufrommich]

6. Are they putting steriods in the water over

there? Who knew Russians could be so cartoonishly macho?

[geek tragedy]

7. Well, their dictator does wrestle bears. nt

[seveneyes]

19. Elevating the tough talk doesn't help reduce the rhetoric

The US needs to back the fuck off this can of shit.

[geek tragedy]

23. No one in the US is escalating. Neither are they being bullied. nt

[karynnj]

24. The US?

Did you listen to either the President or SoS? They are NOT the ones escalating this - it is Russia.

[Bluenorthwest]

8. Dr Evil says the hearts of gay people should be burned after

accidents to make sure they are not transplanted into real people. He says this on national television, State television to be precise.

[sufrommich]

10. They grow increasingly reactionary.nt

[Fumesucker]

9. Let me guess, this is worse than threatening to "obliterate" Iran?

[malaise]

16. as in Bomb bomb bomb Iran

and that was from a sitting Senior Senator and former Presidential candidate.

[Fumesucker]

18. Actually I was thinking of a Secretary of State

But Senior Senator will do too.

[dixiegrrrrl]

37. who was jsut in Ukraine

"calming" things...
cause everytime there is a big problem that will result in headlines, McCain's got to photo bomb it.
Then he goes away and things continue right on.

[arely staircase]

11. I noticed some Putin's DUwater carriers

have been reminding us of Russias nukes all of a suden.

gotta admire the message discipline

[Rex]

12. ...

[wheniwasincongress]

26. the grey suit in the video does not help

[dipsydoodle]

13. Blogwriter is a bit out of date - RIA Novosti became defunct last year.

On 9 December 2013 President of Russia Vladimir Putin signed the liquidation of RIA Novosti and merging it with the international radio service Voice of Russia to create International Information Agency Russia Today.[2] Dmitry Konstantinovich Kiselev, a former anchorman of the Channel One Russia is appointed as the president of the new information agency. It is unclear at the moment whether the new agency will include the TV network Russia Today.[3][12] According to her interview, the editor-in-chief of the TV network Russia Today, Margarita Simonyan was completely unaware about the reorganization of the information agency and got the information from listening competitor radio station Kommersant-FM.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIA_Novosti

The website is maintained in that name due to worldwide familiarity with the name.

[geek tragedy]

14. So this guy is in charge of rt.com

and yet we still have people who pimp rt.com while pretending to be progressives. Amazing.

[GP6971]

20. It is an

amazing contradiction.

[malaise]

15. Well one Sarah Palin suggested that the only thing better than a bad guy with a

nuke is a good guy with a nuke. She was once the Vice Presidential candidate.
It's all madness. The West can't do shite - because they destroyed their own credibility.

[seveneyes]

17. Well I do hope Kerry or whomever does not try more tough talk

Throwing more threats and insults on top of this smoldering pile of shit does not help matters one bit.

[functioning_cog]

21. Who cares what you think? Sometimes tough talk is a requirement

In diplomacy with hostile leaders and their corrupt insiders.

[GP6971]

25. Tough talk

Requires something to back it up. I don't think any member of NATO is interested in military conflict and economic sanctions will hurt Russia, but also hurt the EU.

[snappyturtle]

29. You could have left off that first sentence and been a lot more credible sounding.

I care what seveneyes has to say...and you too. We may not agree but....imho.

[pangaia]

34. I CARE what seveneyes thinks. That's who.

[Laelth]

28. That is ridiculously reckless.

This may be cause for alarm.

-Laelth

[Rex]

31. Let's hope it is all bluster.

Hey, wonder how those GOPers feel about Putin now? All those republicans that LOVE Putin and called Obama weak...think they will turn on a dime and now condemn the dictator?

[GP6971]

35. Of course not. n/t

[GP6971]

36. I think Putin is counting

on the "dialogue" going on within NATO and the EU. While they dither about what to do, Putin is "taking action".

The real telling point will be if starts taking over sections of the eastern Ukraine. The west will have no choice but to react. In what manner remains to seen.

[Brigid]

38. Any other older DUers having flashbacks right about now?

A chaotic, authoritarian country with no history of democracy is practically designed to produce sociopaths and other assorted crazies -- and it does.

[ozone_man]

39. I think the actual quote was

"Russia is the only country in the world realistically capable of turning the United States into radioactive ash," anchor Dmitry Kiselyov said on his weekly news show on state-controlled Rossiya 1 television

http://news.yahoo.com/state-tv-says-russia-could-turn-us-radioactive-212003397.html

You have to be careful about stuff that wasn't said. We don't to start a nuclear war.

[jsr]

43. Sounds like a case of possession with intent to deliver

We ought to nuke them first, no?

[hrmjustin]

40. Someone doesn't like the fact we spoke up.

[arely staircase]

41. who would have thought that when he just wanted

to burn my heart were the good old days?