20 thousand jobs in North Dakota

[sorefeet]

they just had it on the local news. They are having a big jobs fair in Billings. Everything from McDonalds at $15 an hour to truck drivers at $80-100 a year. Or work the patch if you are tough enough. If I were a young man you could not keep me away from that place. But beware, it is most definitely the wild wild west. Crazy and crooked are rampant. All the snake oil salesmen are there too. Take a car and a sleeping bag because there are no rooms to speak of. But this is a perfect adventure for a young person to, if they are smart, could walk away in 5 years with their retirement secured and a home bought where they want to live.

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. I've seen a few documentaries of the 'boom' out there.

No thanks.

[sorefeet]

2. I know what ya mean

like I said it is the wild west. I know a few who have been there and don't want to go back because it is so crazy. But the plan works for lots of people.

[newfie11]

3. Yes the pay is good

But the price of everything is inflated.
Yes there are no rooms but if you find one the price is going to be very high.
Then there's the ND winters.....

[hfojvt]

4. 5 years at $15 an hour

is not gonna make you set for life.

5 years at $80,000 might, but it probably won't for most people AND you doubtless need a CDL for that.

[Lurker Deluxe]

5. you know why McDonald's in is paying $15/hr?

If you have any skill in any trade at any level, you will not be working at McDonald's for more than a day.

Booms are what they are, and just like offshore if you are willing and able to work those kinds of jobs you can make bank. I did my time offshore when I was young and it set the stage for the rest of my life. Paid off my first home by 28.

Of coarse, not everyone can hang ... it's a tough life. I could not do it anymore, which is the only reason I am not there.

[sorefeet]

10. I hear the cry babies that

are too lazy to get off their ass and take a 3 week truck driver school. A CDL isn't a phd. The positive comment from lurker is what I am talking about. No it ain't easy, ya just have to be tough enough to hang for a few years and sock your money away.

[snooper2]

6. Watch how fast it becomes the new meth capital

[sorefeet]

9. It already is

lots of hookers too. Just part of a boom.

[OmahaBlueDog]

7. Remember also, it's not just NoDak

For example, fabrication and machining shops in places like Aberdeen, SD are busy because they are making components/parts for the boom industries.

[Aristus]

8. 20 thousands jobs?

I didn't know there were even 20 thousand people in North Dakota!...

[Luminous Animal]

11. Media Matters: Myth-The pipeline will create 10s of thousands of jobs

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/research/2013/02/14/5-myths-about-keystone-xl-debunked/192668

FACT: Job Estimates Have Been Wildly Inflated

Exaggerated Figures Based On A "Flawed" Analysis Funded By TransCanada. TransCanada has claimed that the Keystone XL pipeline would "create 20,000 construction and manufacturing jobs in the U.S." as well as "118,000 spin-off jobs." These estimates are based on an analysis by the Perryman Group -- funded by TransCanada -- that independent analysts have called "dead wrong," "meaningless," "flawed and poorly documented." TransCanada has also been criticized for using the term "jobs" to refer to what is actually an estimate of "person-years of employment." [TransCanada, 10/6/11] [Media Matters, 1/26/12]

Revised TransCanada Estimates Are Much Lower. Media outlets are continuing to cite TransCanada's original job estimates for the entire length of the Keystone XL pipeline, even though the southern portion is already under construction. TransCanada is now saying that the northern portion of the pipeline will support 9,000 American jobs through early 2015, in addition to the 4,000 workers constructing the southern portion. [ABC News, 1/23/13]

State Department: Pipeline "Would Not Have A Significant Impact On Long-Term Employment." The State Department estimated in 2011 that the pipeline would create "5,000 to 6,000 direct construction jobs," but noted that the project "would not have a significant impact on long-term employment":

…

Cornell University Report: Permanent U.S. Jobs Could Be "As Few As 50." A report by the Cornell University Global Labor Institute stated that the pipeline "will create no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction jobs for two years, according to TransCanada's own data supplied to the State Department." It estimated that "the new permanent US pipeline jobs in the US number as few as 50." The report also argued that the Perryman Group study ignored the negative consequences of the pipeline, which could lead to more jobs lost than would be created:

[sorefeet]

12. I ain't talking Keystone

this is the oil patch. They are sucking it out of the ground in North Dakota and eastern Montana. The Laurel railroad yard is plum full of oil tankers awaiting a tow to the west coast. As are the coal cars loaded full of some of the dirtiest coal in the nation, headed for China. There are thousands of jobs in North Dakota.

[theHandpuppet]

13. Also home to some of the most woman-hating, gay-hating laws in the country

And ND was bemoaning the fact that they can't get women to move there. Grab a clue, neanderthals.

[uppityperson]

14. Billings is in Montana and those jobs are mainly in Fargo, Bismarck, Williston and oil fields.

There is Billings county, ND where Teddy Roosevelt Ntl park is but I doubt they have big jobs fairs either of those places. Maybe you meant Williston, ND?

As far as those 20,000 jobs, they are all over hte state.

http://www.jobsnd.com/news/3756

North Dakota is the place to be if you're looking for a job. The latest Online Job Openings Report shows more than 20,000 job openings were posted on jobsnd.com in February — and the jobs are all around the state.

Cass County (Fargo area) alone had more than 5,000 job openings. Burleigh County, our capital city area, had more than 2,800 openings, followed by Williams County (in the heart of the oil play) had more than 2,000 job openings.

Wild wild west? Well, near the oil fields there are scammers, but otherwise. Not so much "wild wild west".

Aha, I found a FOX news item with this.
http://fox6now.com/2014/03/18/north-dakota-looking-to-fill-more-than-20000-jobs/

In a new recruiting campaign to be rolled out in May, the North Dakota Economic Development Foundation is aiming to fill more than 20,000 jobs — ranging from truck drivers and oilfield workers to receptionists and food servers.
North Dakota’s huge oil boom has spurred thousands of job seekers to flock to the state for years now. In some cities, the population has quadrupled.

Yet, the growth continues and companies are still so desperate for workers that the state is teaming up with oil giant Hess Corp. to launch an $800,000 campaign to attract new talent.

“It is being developed to target people in states with chronic unemployment, and people in industries that are high-demand in North Dakota, including: engineering, healthcare, energy, skilled trades, transportation and information technology,” the foundation said in a statemen....

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Along with a housing crunch, crime has skyrocketed, traffic is grueling, and local restaurants and retailers struggle to keep up with the surge in demand — resulting in higher prices and longer waits....

But yes. There are jobs, if you can put up with the weather and the rightwingers. "wild wild west"? Not so much. Colder than Hades in the winter, hot, humid with mosquitoes in the summer! A couple cities with culture, a lot of space out there. And beer. Lots of beer.

There is a reason so many of us left.

[Redford]

16. Don't be afraid to compete!

Lots and lots of opportunity

[Vashta Nerada]

15. Yeah, I'd rather light myself on fire with napalm than work in North Dakota.