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warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 04:45 PM Mar 2014

Flight 370 vs. "Putins Invasion"

I note with "no small sense of irony" that news of events in Ukraine/Crimea have been largely supplanted on mainstream news by non-stop coverage of the disappearance of flight 370.

What, if anything does this mean? Is Obama going into overdrive trying to mitigate the damage done to his diplomatic efforts by the neocon holdovers in State? Will heads roll once this quiets down?

Did the E.U. decide it isn't worth the additional strain on it's abysmal economy to press the issue?

Inquiring minds want to know!!!

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Flight 370 vs. "Putins Invasion" (Original Post) warrprayer Mar 2014 OP
Well, Flight 370's disappearance is pretty unprecedented Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #1
that is true warrprayer Mar 2014 #2
ask your self one question TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #11
Our leaders aren't done bloviating yet... reformist2 Mar 2014 #3
let them bloviate... warrprayer Mar 2014 #4
Clearly, CIA neo-con neo-facist Ukrainians hijacked Flight 370.... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #5
you mean like these ones? warrprayer Mar 2014 #8
What's the spin on this, that Svoboda "only" has a handful of key government posts? reformist2 Mar 2014 #13
yeah, what's a nazi or two warrprayer Mar 2014 #14
It's nothing, but I was reminded of somthing by this quote: fadedrose Apr 2014 #15
I am reading warrprayer Apr 2014 #16
We "lost" Crimea, so quick change the channel. magical thyme Mar 2014 #6
ah, brings back the memories... warrprayer Mar 2014 #7
everyone loves a mystery TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #9
So true warrprayer Mar 2014 #10
I manage to do a lot of my own torching TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #12

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. Well, Flight 370's disappearance is pretty unprecedented
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 04:51 PM
Mar 2014

and almost two weeks later we still don't know the basic questions of what happened, where is the aircraft, who is responsible and why...

BBC News has had steady coverage of Ukraine...

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
2. that is true
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 04:56 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Wed Mar 19, 2014, 05:37 PM - Edit history (1)

My aviation minded friends are having a field day trying to figure this one out.
I confess to not having an iota of a clue.
The friends and families of those aboard are no doubt going through hell.
I have taken my old shortwave receiver down from it's closet shelf (an old J.C. Penney's Worldstar MG-6000) to stay abreast of international news. As Nadine pointed out, when it comes to something like the Ukraine crisis, no mainstream news can be trusted.





(That '70's Radio!!!)

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
11. ask your self one question
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 06:03 PM
Mar 2014

How is it that the Malaysian air force seen an unidentified aircraft on their radar that was not supposed to be there but supposedly sat on their asses and did nothing when their job is to get their two 24/7 standby jets in the air to intercept it?

The very simple and obvious answer was that they did exactly what their job requires just as any country's air force would.

Move your mind along from there.

BTW, my oldest brother has had an old shortwave for ages, and it's still his favorite toy. Yours looks a lot larger and more complicated than his from what I remember. He also still listens to the baseball games on his ancient little transistor radio that goes back to when he was a little kid in the 60's. Damn thing still works like new, too. He was always falling asleep listening to it with those old fashioned giant headphones that would get twisted around on his head so one ear piece was on his neck and the other on his nose. My dad must have taken dozens of "blackmail" photos of him like that.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
4. let them bloviate...
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 04:59 PM
Mar 2014

... till they turn blue!
At least then they will be doing something for the money we pay them...

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
5. Clearly, CIA neo-con neo-facist Ukrainians hijacked Flight 370....
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 05:03 PM
Mar 2014

...so as to distract from the "putsch" they covertly manufactured in Ukraine!

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
8. you mean like these ones?
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014





Ukrainian Jews Worry That Rise of Svoboda Party Will Bring Anti-Semitism Back Into Vogue
April 30, 2013 By:
Cnaan Liphshiz, JTA






Enlarge Image »Svoboda supporters attending a party rally in western Ukraine, 2012. (Svoboda.org.ua)

KIEV, Ukraine — Marching in formation, six young men in dark jackets approach an anti-government rally in Cherkasy, a city some 125 miles southeast of Kiev.

At the appointed moment, they remove their windbreakers to reveal white T-shirts emblazoned with the words “Beat the kikes.” Their jackets carry the name of Svoboda, the ultranationalist Ukrainian political party.

A small riot quickly ensues. Angry protestors rip at the T-shirts, but the Svoboda-labeled men give as good as they get. One of the men beats Victor Smal, a lawyer and human rights activist, so savagely that he is rendered barely recognizable.

http://www.jta.org/2013/04/26/news-opinion/world/ukrainian-jews-worry-that-rise-of-svoboda-party-will-bring-anti-semitism-back-into-vogue

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
15. It's nothing, but I was reminded of somthing by this quote:
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:50 AM
Apr 2014
"Ukrainian Jews Worry That Rise of Svoboda Party Will Bring Anti-Semitism Back Into Vogue
April 30, 2013 By:
Cnaan Liphshiz, JTA "


Way back in early 1950's, my Slovak parents mortgaged a home, Everyone on the street were immigrants, veterans of World War I (not II), and either Slovak, Polish, Serbian, English, Croatian, Italian, and one family was Ukrainian. To help with bills, my folks rented out the upstairs to a Jewish couple. The husband was Orthodox and his wife was a new convert.

My dad loved Alan and admired that he had a small tablet on his wall, and wore a little cap and he prayed a couple of times a day..I didn't know the names or significance of them then. Betty had a hard time because we had ham so often, but she managed to keep away from it, the aroma drifted upstairs. I was invited up very often to play cards and eat chips. We loved them.

When our Ukrainian neighbors, one of my favorite families because they were so nice and had a dog that loved me, really disappointed me. Only they were full of outrage that my parents would take in a Jewish couple, and their predjudice was unique and ugly on a street where all nationalities and religions were living peacefully, and no one else ever mentioned our couple.

My dad was very upset with them and told them so. It was not brought up again. The couple moved in a couple of years when they had enough for a down payment. More than 10 years later when Dad died, they came to the funeral home. They'd be in their late 80's or 90's by now, and I'm grateful for the exposure I had to Jewish people up close...

It all means nothing, but I remember it still. And I'm 75.


warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
16. I am reading
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:38 PM
Apr 2014

"The Secret History of the C.I.A." by Joseph J. Trento. The book early on goes into the situation of the Jewish people in Europe right after WW2. It is not a happy story.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
9. everyone loves a mystery
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 05:39 PM
Mar 2014

Everyone also loves to move on to the next story when the current one becomes stale.

Like every other story that's been the current big news something will come along to replace it, and it's off to the races again.

What was that big line from the movie Chicago again? "You can't beat fresh blood on the walls."

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
12. I manage to do a lot of my own torching
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 06:21 PM
Mar 2014

Lighting my eyebrows on fire lighting a cigarette, forgetting those hot dogs in the frying pan that filled the whole house with rank smoke and not even the dog was willing to eat those tiny shriveled black things that was all that remained of them, setting my thumb on fire trying to light a candle, and the classic one when I was a little kid when I leaped up on the stove to sit on a burner that was still hot... I don't know why but us kids were always jawing in the kitchen sitting on the stove. It was one of those weird modern things at the time where the burners looked like they were just painted on. I still can't figure how I still don't have burner ring scars from that on my arse. Oh, and that time just a few years ago when I leaned my hip against someone's burning cigarette while chatting at the bar and didn't notice until my pants caught on fire. I still have a little perfectly round white cigarette tip scar from that. I keep thinking I'll extend my tattoo to cover it, but maybe I'll just draw a smilie face on it with a sharpie.



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