Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 06:48 AM Mar 2014

Ten years ago I left active service in the Marine Corps

I still had a reserve commitment which mostly entailed getting people shipped off to their appropriate location (logistics: it's never out of fashion) but this date was it for my official active service. That was a decade ago. The Marines I lost were even beyond a decade ago. I guess that's how time happens.

Anyways. The invasion of Iraq commenced on 19 March 2003, 11 years and one week ago. 11 years and 2 weeks ago I was protesting against the upcoming war along with a lot of people. But, as a Corporal of Marines who believed (and believes) in the civilian control of the military, when it came down to it, orders were orders. Anyways.

I still do believe in the Marine Corps. It's an organization that changed and saved my life. I love that recruiting requirements' most common wavers come from the Marine Corps, and specifically come for criminal conduct. The Commandant in 1999 once said to me "I met a recruit in boot camp who said he had never thrown a punch in his life. We have to fix that." I do agree. But it's a fine line. While we don't want people who will commit atrocities in, we want people who know how to win a fight. But that said, America's streets are tough, and that's where our Marines should come from.

Anyways. Semper Fi, brothers and sisters. As my bumper sticker says, "Once a Marine: Once was Enough".

I still think there should be a Marine Corps, and that it should keep doing what it does. Women should be let in to the full arena of jobs just like blacks finally were. Because guess what? I guarantee every Marine in history would agree with this: when you're facing a combatant enemy, all I care about the person next to me is that he or she can put accurate rounds downrange. Eliminating female, gay, black, Jewish, whatever Marines from that calculus -- if they are able to do it better -- simply means you want Marines to die for your social opinions. The Marine Corps in WWII was one of the loudest to say "no, really, a lot of these black draftees are exactly what we need, and if you don't let them fight, more people than necessary will die". The Marine Corps doesn't care about your political agenda. It cares about winning battles.

I know that here the Marine Corps attracts some negative attention. I'm not someone who pretends the Marine Corps is perfect. It's not. Particularly regarding sexual assault they have followed the Army pattern of deferring to command rather than the Navy pattern of an unlimited request mast. But, my answer is, we have to fix that. Women who are Marines are my sisters, and I owe them that.

Anyways, this isn't about anything in particular. Just something of a statement about the Marine Corps that made me who I am.

6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Ten years ago I left active service in the Marine Corps (Original Post) Recursion Mar 2014 OP
Semper Fi 4Q2u2 Mar 2014 #1
Thanks for that perspective. Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #2
I hauled a lot of Marines around the world when I was in the Navy hack89 Mar 2014 #3
Semper Fi from an Army vet pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #4
Semper Fi from a retired sailor. littlewolf Mar 2014 #5
Semper Fi from a retired Army Ranger. uncommonlink Mar 2014 #6
 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
1. Semper Fi
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:42 AM
Mar 2014

The Corps has turned a lot of people's lives in a positive direction, I am glad that it was for you.
Not sure if you ever read this but pretty inspiring read.

http://www.centralfloridapva.org/WIM-11-2011/national%20director.html

R/



A SeaBee

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
2. Thanks for that perspective.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 08:47 AM
Mar 2014

I like the Smedley Butler quote.

"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."

hack89

(39,171 posts)
3. I hauled a lot of Marines around the world when I was in the Navy
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:14 AM
Mar 2014

I have worked with every service and I have always enjoyed working with Marines the most.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. Semper Fi from an Army vet
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:19 AM
Mar 2014

Captain, Infantry, retired. After only 4 1/2 years in. Partial disability retirement after Vietnam. Served as Rifle Platoon Leader, 2/501 Infantry, 101st Airborne Division VN '69-'70.

Thanks for sharing your perspective. Even if you were a jarhead.

 

uncommonlink

(261 posts)
6. Semper Fi from a retired Army Ranger.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 09:52 AM
Mar 2014

Met a lot of fine Marines during my time in the Army, great bunch of guys to have on your side when the shit hits the fan.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Ten years ago I left acti...