Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:22 PM Mar 2014

You do realize that there are those who are pushing for war with Russia, right?

and we're talking heavy hitters.

fuck the war mongers with rusty farm implements. I despise the merchants of war.

Stopping Putin: The Military Option

By Max Strasser

<snip>

So far, the West has deployed its economic and diplomatic might to punish and deter Russian President Vladimir Putin from those “additional plans” -- invading the rest of Ukraine.

Yet the West’s strongest option remains untouched: Military action.

While Russia rolled its forces into Crimea, the West clearly has kept its armies confined to barracks. So far the U.S. and its NATO allies have merely offered Ukraine limited military support and have flexed their military muscles in other ways.

<snip>

“The force that is at the Ukrainian border now to the east is very, very sizable and very, very ready,” said General Philip Breedlove, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander.

<snip>

http://www.newsweek.com/stopping-putin-military-option-238783


13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
1. limit of 5 free articles per month, time to clear cache lol
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:25 PM
Mar 2014

ok I still can't get it, they must block by IP addresses.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
2. They Say Crazy sh*t, but would Never Put their own Asses on the Line
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:29 PM
Mar 2014

is what I'll wager. It's got to be really hard to ask someone to die for a cause, but then again, I have a conscience.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
4. someone in the MIC, military and/or Congress is always thinking this way....
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:31 PM
Mar 2014

It seems to NEVER be combat veterans or even veterans for that matter.

HEY ASSHOLES, SEND YOUR OWN KIDS OR GRANDKIDS INTO WAR. You go with them, FIRST.





Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. Where in the article does the author "push war with Russia"?
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:34 PM
Mar 2014

Did you actually read the whole thing?

.......

But military strategists reject those options as profoundly unlikely.

No matter what Russia does in Ukraine – even in the case of a full-scale invasion – there is little chance NATO, or the U.S. acting independent of the alliance, will engage in a shooting war with Russian troops.

War with Russia would escalate the Crimea crisis to an extent that no one in Washington, or likely even in the much more bellicose Moscow, would want. Russia and the United States have the world’s two largest stockpiles of nuclear weapons – a war could soon get ugly.

.....

Ukraine is not a member of NATO, whose 28 members have a mutual defense agreement. And while Brussels and Washington view Ukraine as an ally, strategic interests in the former Soviet state are not vital.


The author is saying that while military action is a theoretical possibility, it is extremely unlikely to happen, and nowhere does he argue that it should happen.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. yes, i read it and the NATA commander most certainly implied it.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:44 PM
Mar 2014

you are seriously naive if you don't think that there are those within the MIC who are pushing and hoping for war.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. If they are, there is no evidence of that in this article.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:59 PM
Mar 2014

Perhaps you could find another link that is more persuasive of your theory.

Gothmog

(145,554 posts)
9. The people pushing for war scare me
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:50 PM
Mar 2014

I agree with your post. The neocons and idiots like John McCain believe that war is the only answer to any issue. It would be stupid to try to fight Russia on its home ground but the neocons are going to accuse President Obama of being weak for not using the military option

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
11. I believe McCain has proposed sending military aid to the Ukrainians, but has not argued for war.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 07:02 PM
Mar 2014

Do you have a link to where McCain says we should go to war over Ukraine?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»You do realize that there...