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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe CULTURE of RAPE and COVERUP.
http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/reported-sexual-assault-notre-dame-campus-leaves-more-questions-answers#comment-311001Just read the whole article and there is a comment from an Andrew who tried to blame the 'godless, progressives, for the culture of rape.'
On her way back to St. Marys College from the University of Notre Dame, just across the street in Notre Dame, Ind., freshman Lizzy Seeberg texted her therapist that she needed to talk ASAP. Something bad happened, read her message, sent at 11:39 p.m. on Aug. 31, 2010. A sophomore in their dorm bolted from her study group after getting a similar message. When they talked a few minutes later, Lizzy was crying so hard she was having trouble breathing: She looked really flushed and was breathing heavily and talking really fast; I couldnt understand her. I just heard her say boy, Notre Dame, football player. She was crying and having the closest thing to a panic attack Ive seen in my life. I told her to breathe and sit down and tell me everything.
What she eventually did tell both her therapist and her friend that night -- then committed to paper, in a handwritten statement she and the other young woman carefully signed, dated and handed over to campus police the next day, is that a Notre Dame football player sexually assaulted her in his room after two other students left them alone there. Yet Notre Dame police, who have jurisdiction to investigate even the most serious crimes on campus, still had not interviewed him when she committed suicide 10 days later -- and wouldnt for another five days.
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By the next day, Sept. 2, the other woman seemed frantic, messaging Lizzy, Im freaking out idk what to do. The players friend had started texting Lizzy, too. That afternoon, even as Lizzy and her friend Kaliegh walked to Notre Dames police station, where Lizzy identified a photo of the accused from the football roster, Kaliegh said, the players friend was texting and calling her -- and scaring her all over again. It was threatening.
Dosmann was nice and comforting, Kaliegh said, when Lizzy told him about all the messages. He said if [the players friend] continued to contact her, to let him know and hed let him know it wasnt his business to get involved. She was still upset, but at least she thought it was going to be dealt with. Not long after they left the police station, Lizzy did hear from the players friend again: Dont do anything you would regret, he wrote. Messing with Notre Dame football is a bad idea. And that text, said her father, who visited her the weekend after she filed the report, bothered her more than anything. After Lizzy sent Dosmann a screen shot of the last text, he did call the kid, told him to knock it off and interviewed him over the phone.
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The CULTURE of RAPE and COVERUP. (Original Post)
ray of light
Mar 2012
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)1. K&R
ray of light
(5,961 posts)2. thanks
redqueen
(115,103 posts)3. My pleasure.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)4. K&R
niyad
(113,581 posts)5. I read the whole sad article, and some of the comments were beyond disgusting.
andrew was bad enough, but the one who said, "it happens, move on" and said, in another post, that rape was nothing more than the "girl" feeling bad the next day, was appalling. I certainly would not want any child of mine, nor those of my friends, anywhere near that person, or the institutions that house him.
ray of light
(5,961 posts)6. thanks for reading all of it. The latest post by padre pio
just commented on the TIMING of the article...when people are getting their acceptance letters. Whooot. Thanks padre for you concern for the victims.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)7. Henneberger has kind of a questionable history
of RW nuttery and over-the-top defense of holy mother church, but that is an eye-opening story...Sadly, I can attest that college athletes can get away with a lot of stuff as long as they keep it on campus and the AD/campus police can cover it up
ray of light
(5,961 posts)8. Campus police are good at covering up. Maybe it is their job description.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)9. K&R