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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:00 PM Mar 2012

The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

Posted by Jon Clinkenbeard. March 26, 2012, 11:25 AM CDT

If I were going to describe the perfect contraceptive, it would go something like this: no babies, no latex, no daily pill to remember, no hormones to interfere with mood or sex drive, no negative health effects whatsoever, and 100 percent effectiveness. The funny thing is, something like that currently exists.

The procedure called RISUG in India (reversible inhibition of sperm under guidance) takes about 15 minutes with a doctor, is effective after about three days, and lasts for 10 or more years. A doctor applies some local anesthetic, makes a small pinhole in the base of the scrotum, reaches in with a pair of very thin forceps, and pulls out the small white vas deferens tube. Then, the doctor injects the polymer gel (called Vasalgel here in the US), pushes the vas deferens back inside, repeats the process for the other vas deferens, puts a Band-Aid over the small hole, and the man is on his way. If this all sounds incredibly simple and inexpensive, that’s because it is. The chemicals themselves cost less than the syringe used to administer them. But the science of what happens next is the really fascinating part.

The two common chemicals — styrene maleic anhydride and dimethyl sulfoxide — form a polymer that thickens over the next 72 hours, much like a pliable epoxy, but the purpose of these chemicals isn’t to harden and block the vas deferens. Instead, the polymer lines the wall of the vas deferens and allows sperm to flow freely down the middle (this prevents any pressure buildup), and because of the polymer’s pattern of negative/positive polarization, the sperm are torn apart through the polyelectrolytic effect. On a molecular level, it’s what supervillains envision will happen when they stick the good guy between two huge magnets and flip the switch.



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The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2012 OP
I have no idea why this isn't more readily available or marketed jpgray Mar 2012 #1
I think it's this part: LWolf Mar 2012 #2
Sigh. TheWraith Mar 2012 #9
They earn bigger profits LWolf Mar 2012 #29
No money in it for the PhRMA industry. n/t Cleita Mar 2012 #10
Not available because it is still expereimental. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #23
I stpped reading. rug Mar 2012 #3
And THAT is exactly why male birth control has never been popular. TalkingDog Mar 2012 #7
Dis me all you want but keep those forceps out of my scrotal pinhole. rug Mar 2012 #8
Now you know why the women are screaming about the Cleita Mar 2012 #11
That too . . . but scrotal pinholes . . . rug Mar 2012 #12
What pussies. Cleita Mar 2012 #13
Well, hell. rug Mar 2012 #15
The reality of a standard medical procedure is "TMI" for you? intheflow Mar 2012 #17
Absolutely. rug Mar 2012 #18
Apologies. Cleita Mar 2012 #22
Uh, that would be... Oilwellian Mar 2012 #30
Um, that sounds like an endometrial biopsy, not a pap smear. gkhouston Mar 2012 #19
Yeah I guess. It's what they do Cleita Mar 2012 #20
What always annoyed me was the way the pap test was called "painless." It most certainly CTyankee Apr 2012 #33
How much different is this then getting a vascetomy? LiberalFighter Mar 2012 #27
Interesting customerserviceguy Mar 2012 #4
Watch out for a three vas man ........ surprise!!!!!!!! BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #5
Very interesting, thank you. Bet recovery is faster than with a vasectomy also. uppityperson Mar 2012 #6
It's not more readily available because there are too many men who think they teewrex Mar 2012 #14
Or get squeamish about getting a needle in the nuts. LadyHawkAZ Mar 2012 #16
or put on a fricken condum Dokkie Mar 2012 #25
Not my guy. Fawke Em Mar 2012 #26
I never, NEVER understood that. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #34
I knew this guy who had a vasectomy several years ago. Elwood P Dowd Mar 2012 #21
Cool story bro. redqueen Mar 2012 #24
Never thought of having a shirt made up with that. LiberalFighter Mar 2012 #28
Additional article on the link below Tx4obama Apr 2012 #31
Still glad I got the vasectomy over this. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #32

jpgray

(27,831 posts)
1. I have no idea why this isn't more readily available or marketed
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:47 PM
Mar 2012

Beats a vasectomy from what I've read. Maybe it's the cheapness?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
2. I think it's this part:
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:54 PM
Mar 2012

"And if men only need one super-cheap shot every 10 years 0r more, that’s not something that gets big pharmaceutical companies all fired up, because they’ll make zero money on it (even if it might have the side benefit of, you know, destroying HIV)."

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
9. Sigh.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:26 PM
Mar 2012

Out of curiosity, does anyone think that the incredibly generic and patentless currently available birth control options are a big profit center?

The paranoia displayed here about any kind of pharmaceuticals is disappointing.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
29. They earn bigger profits
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:26 AM
Mar 2012

than a once a decade shot that costs less than the hypodermic, anyway.

If I were really paranoid, I'd think that the right-wing effort to make birth control harder to get might also make it more costly.

In reality, I think that most birth control options currently available are flawed. They all have downsides, some more than others.

IF the method under discussion here had been available at the time, and as presented, I would have taken my teenage sons in a heartbeat.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
23. Not available because it is still expereimental.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:15 AM
Mar 2012

Closer reading mentions asking people to sign up for clinical trials.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
3. I stpped reading.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:58 PM
Mar 2012

"A doctor applies some local anesthetic, makes a small pinhole in the base of the scrotum, reaches in with a pair of very thin forceps, and pulls out the small white vas deferens tube"

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
7. And THAT is exactly why male birth control has never been popular.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:18 PM
Mar 2012

not dissing you rug, just pointing out the obvious.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
13. What pussies.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:37 PM
Mar 2012

When we get a pap smear, they stick a sissor like thing up our hoohas and snip a specimen from our uterine wall to go to the lab. It's not fun.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
19. Um, that sounds like an endometrial biopsy, not a pap smear.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:15 AM
Mar 2012

The pap smear is the one where they scrape your cervix--instead of snipping, they sort of rake you.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
33. What always annoyed me was the way the pap test was called "painless." It most certainly
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:07 AM
Apr 2012

was not for me and a lot of other women. It wasn't unbearable but it was unpleasant. I finally found a gynecologist, a woman, who agreed with me.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. Interesting
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:59 PM
Mar 2012

The prevention of pressure build-up is important, the body naturally acts to produce antibodies that consume excess sperm, this is why vasectomy reversal is sometimes unsuccessful.

 

BOHICA12

(471 posts)
5. Watch out for a three vas man ........ surprise!!!!!!!!
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:12 PM
Mar 2012

Now clipping tying and frying - followed by testing - that's effective!!!!!

teewrex

(96 posts)
14. It's not more readily available because there are too many men who think they
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:54 PM
Mar 2012

have lost their manhood when they lose their ability to impregnate a woman.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
16. Or get squeamish about getting a needle in the nuts.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:07 PM
Mar 2012

Why bother when you can make the lil woman take a pill?

 

Dokkie

(1,688 posts)
25. or put on a fricken condum
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:21 AM
Mar 2012

yea, condoms suck pretty bad but I will wear a glove before I sign up for that procedure. Ofc if that was the ONLY option available then I will reconsider

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
26. Not my guy.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:29 AM
Mar 2012

I sat in the office while he had the procedure done. He didn't feel a thing, got some good drugs for recovery and got to lay in bed for three days.

The worst part of it was his having to wear tighty-whities for a few days (he's a boxer man).

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
34. I never, NEVER understood that.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:39 AM
Apr 2012

Who the hell WANTS the ability to impregnate a woman only for the purpose of being able to? The earth has enough people that we cannot take care of. Usually, people who talk all that mess are not so surprisingly lax when it comes to actually providing for and raising the child.

I knew right off I wouldn't be able to handle more than one kid financially and emotionally, so I went ahead and stopped the baby maker for good. I'm not any "less of a man" because of it; it all works the same and just fine, thanks.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
21. I knew this guy who had a vasectomy several years ago.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
Mar 2012

He and the wife already had three kids, and she was having all kinds of health issues with birth control pills. He decided to have a vasectomy and put an end to the problems. Well, they separated and finally divorced a few years later. Turns out all her complaints about the pill were just an excuse to cover up the fact that she hated sex and hated being a mother. He even got the kids. She never remarried and is still a royal *****. He met a lady that was interested in a t-shirt he wore to a party that said, "I can get it up, but I can't knock you up". They are now happily married.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
32. Still glad I got the vasectomy over this.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:24 AM
Apr 2012

Less invasive (everything is done above the surface), permament (when I wanted a PERMANENT means of never having kids, that's kind of what I was going for) and the idea of a polymer solvent in my body doesn't sound all that appealing.

Is reversibility the selling point?

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