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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 04:53 AM Mar 2012

Here's an early morning shout out to DUer nadinbrzezinski

You were correct one year ago
Fukushima reactor shows radiation levels much higher than thought
Damage from disaster so severe that clean-up expected to take decades, according to latest examination of nuclear plant
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/mar/28/fukushima-reactor-radiation-levels
<snip>
One of Japan's crippled nuclear reactors still has fatally high radiation levels and much less water to cool it than officials estimated, according to an internal examination that renews doubts about the plant's stability.

A tool equipped with a tiny video camera, a thermometer, a dosimeter and a water gauge was used to assess damage inside the number two reactor's containment chamber for the second time since the tsunami swept into the Fukushima Daiichi plant, a year ago.

The data shows the damage from the disaster is so severe the plant operator will have to develop special equipment and technology to tolerate the harsh environment, and decommission the plant. The process is expected to last decades.

The other two reactors that had meltdowns could be in even worse shape. The number two reactor is the only one officials have been able to closely examine so far.

Tuesday's examination, with an industrial endoscope, detected radiation levels up to 10 times the fatal dose inside the chamber.

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Here's an early morning shout out to DUer nadinbrzezinski (Original Post) malaise Mar 2012 OP
nadinbrzezinski is a valuable member of DU. drm604 Mar 2012 #1
Agreed 1000% orpupilofnature57 Mar 2012 #5
The same can be said for malaise madokie Mar 2012 #6
I love malaise, she's on top of all the latest news with constructive and monmouth Mar 2012 #20
Love you back monmouth malaise Mar 2012 #30
I'm proud to call you........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #36
Thank you malaise Mar 2012 #44
But gee, you see, if you say you like person X and agree with them, then you're WORSHIPPING X! 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #45
Sure is! nt Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #46
I remember that. Mariana Mar 2012 #2
I won't forget it malaise Mar 2012 #3
Hi Malaise ~ you are a gem goclark Mar 2012 #9
Back at you malaise Mar 2012 #10
I don't remember nadin's thoughts on that, but she's right every time i read her posts. nt TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #4
Rec just because you mentioned her name, lol. Zalatix Mar 2012 #7
Interesting... chervilant Mar 2012 #8
+1,000 malaise Mar 2012 #11
To you. Mariana Mar 2012 #12
Funny thing, those who argued against us are vewy vewy quiet of late. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #26
LOL malaise Mar 2012 #28
Oh, yes! chervilant Mar 2012 #47
Nah, it's the same as if you ate three bananas each day for four days... PCIntern Mar 2012 #13
Huh? malaise Mar 2012 #14
In all seriousness nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #37
Here's an example suffragette Mar 2012 #41
She is one smart lady and you are too. Thanks for sharing the informaiton. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #15
"with an industrial endoscope" Hubert Flottz Mar 2012 #16
The truth is that after Japan's experience with the bomb malaise Mar 2012 #24
Here's the DU LBN thread: Hissyspit Mar 2012 #17
Thanks Hissyspit malaise Mar 2012 #18
And Jay Polk was killed in Syria... SidDithers Mar 2012 #19
Awww did poor widdle Sid get pwned? SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #40
The tradition of commenting on DUers rather than on politics or other issues continues Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #49
a long slow catastrophe barbtries Mar 2012 #21
nadinbrzezinski has called many things right libtodeath Mar 2012 #22
Ditto malaise Mar 2012 #23
This is one time I wish the doomsayers had been wrong Generic Other Mar 2012 #25
props irisblue Mar 2012 #27
She is a staple on DU and her insight and knowledge aptal Mar 2012 #29
a well deserved thread to appreciate one of DU's finest... fascisthunter Mar 2012 #31
For Nadin.... immoderate Mar 2012 #32
Agreed! Good job nadin! Greybnk48 Mar 2012 #33
Thanks, but everybody who recognized the seriousness nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #34
LOL malaise Mar 2012 #39
Late to the party... horseshoecrab Mar 2012 #35
YES! zappaman Mar 2012 #38
As someone said very well, upthread: dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #48
Have at least enough class... pinboy3niner Mar 2012 #50
it's 5 a.m somewhere and I onethatcares Mar 2012 #42
K&R suffragette Mar 2012 #43

madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. The same can be said for malaise
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:12 AM
Mar 2012

Some here stand out from the rest and these two definitely are in that class. We mustn't forget 'sister either.

Nuclear energy is the most dangerous mode of providing energy that man has come up with yet as this shows. If the world and all things in it were perfect maybe then it wouldn't be so dangerous but last I checked that wasn't the case.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
20. I love malaise, she's on top of all the latest news with constructive and
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:16 AM
Mar 2012

very funny critiques. Go malaise!

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
45. But gee, you see, if you say you like person X and agree with them, then you're WORSHIPPING X!
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:03 PM
Mar 2012

And are part of the CULT OF X!

(As long as X is liberal, of course.)

</stalkertroll>

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
8. Interesting...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:23 AM
Mar 2012

There are a number of DUers (self included) who from the beginning asserted that Fukushima is the worst nuclear disaster to date, and will produce deadly amounts of radioactivity for an obscene amount of time. Some of us (self included) were chided by pro-nuclear power DUers for 'not understanding' the importance of nuclear power as a 'cheap' source of electricity.

My earliest activism (other than working with Amnesty International) was focused on preventing the construction of nuclear power plants. I and many of my fellow activists had read Anna Gyorgy and Friends' No Nukes, and were acutely aware of the lies being told and the nicely-packaged propaganda disseminated widely to the Hoi Polloi.

Oh, yes, nuclear energy is 'clean and cheap.' Tell that the the hundreds of thousands of Japanese who will be most directly impacted by this disaster...

PCIntern

(25,582 posts)
13. Nah, it's the same as if you ate three bananas each day for four days...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:47 AM
Mar 2012

dont'cha remember that discussion??

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. In all seriousness
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:21 PM
Mar 2012

That was one of the arguments made. My all time fav, flying transcontinental...that's the ammount of radiation you will get. In fairness, that is probably what you got, the west coast of British Columbia, a tad more.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
16. "with an industrial endoscope"
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:45 AM
Mar 2012

I'll bet the bowel prep for that was industrial too.

Sure they've sugar-coated the bad news all along. Those guys will do anything to hold on to a dollar. Things like building that plant there to start with.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
24. The truth is that after Japan's experience with the bomb
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:18 AM
Mar 2012

I blame the Japanese politicians way more than the foreign corporations that set up the nuke plants.
Japanese know their earthquake history as well as they know the devastation as a result of being nuked.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
19. And Jay Polk was killed in Syria...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:03 AM
Mar 2012

And war between the Koreas was "practically imminent", and will GD's posting rules be expanded to allow discussion of the upcoming war in the Middle East.

Awesome predictive ability.

Sid

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
40. Awww did poor widdle Sid get pwned?
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

Are you a big supporter of Nuclear power?

Were you the "Banana" man? Or the X-ray man? Or The trans-contential fight man?



This was a thank you/support thread. Nice of you to drop by and show your "support".

Didn't your mommy teach you any manners? There are plenty of threads where you could diss Nadine and her positions. This was not supposed to be one of them.



 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
49. The tradition of commenting on DUers rather than on politics or other issues continues
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 11:13 AM
Mar 2012

It is a proud tradition, Sid. It adds so much to the discussion here. So much of what exactly I'm not saying.
It gets old.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
22. nadinbrzezinski has called many things right
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 08:44 AM
Mar 2012

some seem to join in with the crazies on the right that hate her but I am thankful for her insight and reporting of current events and how they relate to history.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
34. Thanks, but everybody who recognized the seriousness
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:44 AM
Mar 2012

Of this should be recognized. Yes, some of us take it in the chin from folks who on this are very quiet these days...and they still make silly jokes about milk...let them.

Oh and I will eat a banana in their honor today.

On a serious note, this is a disaster that still develops.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
39. LOL
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:55 PM
Mar 2012

I agree let's recognize all of you who warned us of the magnitude of this ongoing disaster.

I have a banana every morning

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
35. Late to the party...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:06 PM
Mar 2012

But I wanna get in on this one!

Thank you Malaise for this post!

Thanks Nadin for the accurate and quite non-hysterical info you've posted about Fukushima from the beginning of this nightmarish event.





horseshoecrab

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
38. YES!
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:05 PM
Mar 2012

Thanks to the all-knowing, never wrong Nadin, I now know...
-there are "51 states"
-there are "60 cm in a meter"
-"American is a language"
-soldiers who go on "sooper duper" secret missions to Syria, let everyone know about it on Facebook
-you can hold memorials for people you say are dead even if they are really alive
-the upcoming reboot of SPIDERMAN is a trend that points to the upcoming collapse of civilization
-"climactic change" is real

but most of all, the author of one of the greatest threads ever that every DUer should have bookmarked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x666804

All Hail!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
48. As someone said very well, upthread:
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 10:52 AM
Mar 2012

This was a thank you/support thread. Nice of you to drop by and show your "support".













pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
50. Have at least enough class...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 11:21 AM
Mar 2012

...not to go gunning in a thread where it's clearly inappropriate. The 'fan club' can have its say elsewhere. Not here. That's really tacky.

onethatcares

(16,184 posts)
42. it's 5 a.m somewhere and I
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 03:24 PM
Mar 2012

believe nadinbrzezinski adds one hell of a lot to the Democratic Underground.

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