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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRW's 'Bundy' hypocrisy: GOP-run states rewriting land rules to FORCE FRACKING on landowners
GOP governors are rewriting rules to FORCE FRACKING on private landowners state by state.
And they are doing it for their fascist puppet masters like Koch Industries. Interesting that no news media picked up on that major hypocrisy throughout this Bundy story. It's OK for Koch puppet Republicans to force fracking on private landowners, but, not OK for federal marshals to collect fees owed for use of public lands?
This is the point that ALL Dem spokespeople should be making in their attacks against GOP governors and Kochs. Not ALL tea baggers will be happy with the facts.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/28/3145187/officials-ok-rule-to-force-fracking.html
Officials OK rule to force fracking on NC landowners
RALEIGH North Carolina landowners would be forced to sell the natural gas under their homes and farms whether they want to or not under a fracking recommendation approved Wednesday thats expected to be enacted by the state legislature this fall.
The proposal by a state study group endorses a rarely used 1945 law thats never been tried here on the kind of scale that would be required for shale gas exploration, or fracking. Thousands of property owners could potentially be affected in the states gas-rich midsection in Lee, Moore and Chatham counties.
The recommendation, dealing with one of the most emotional fracking issues, bypasses the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission, which holds regular public hearings on protecting the public and safeguarding the environment, and goes to the legislature.
We are talking about a for-profit industry taking away personal freedoms with the blessing of the government, Therese Vick, a community activist with the Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League, told the Compulsory Pooling Study Group. Personal freedoms are seldom on the radar when the gas companies come to town.
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)Freedom. Rights. Profits. Power. Privilege.
All His. None Ours.
Triana
(22,666 posts)held during the bu$h years. NO environmental groups or interests were allowed - only Tricky Dick II and his oil, coal, and gas friends. They feathered their oily, chemical-laden, greed-driven nests then.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The buy-partisan nature of fracking makes me think SCROTUS 5-4 in 2000 really wasn't all that close.
blm
(113,711 posts).
Octafish
(55,745 posts)SourceWatch does state-by-state analysis for those interested in seeing just how low these govs have to go to sneak under the radar that the nation's watchdog press has conveniently left unplugged:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Fracking
Stealth government is un-democratic, but very, very profitable.
blm
(113,711 posts); )
packman
(16,296 posts)Coming from Pennsylvania, I can tell you that very many people are surprised when they discover that while they own the surface land rights to build on, they DO NOT own the rights to whatever is underground. I have seen houses, buildings, even a church undermined and become unsafe to live in or occupy when coal seams are exploited beneath them. And, nothing can be done because this been going on forever and has/had the blessing of the state and the state's courts. Big business won out in Pennsylvania and probably will in North Carolina.
blm
(113,711 posts)Fracking poisoned the land and their 5 wells.
sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)Or did they go for the cash without thinking about the ramifications? The law doesn't protect you when you make a bad deal unless it was fraudulent.
packman
(16,296 posts)Many farmers, land owners only see the dollar signs when money is being thrown at them for mineral rights.
blm
(113,711 posts).
justabob
(3,069 posts)are at the top of the power pyramid and hard to fight, but where are the real estate people? They aren't exactly powerless, or moneyless.... and what about the rights of property owners to enjoy (or not) their land without interference from outside? Land ownership has been hailed as the be all end all for quite some time... this new push for eminent domain over mineral rights pretty much cuts right through the whole "bundle of rights" folks have as property owners and the reason that bundle exists in the first place. At some point these two industries (and others involving land use... never mind environmental groups) are going to have to come to terms and I do wonder what it will look like.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)when the drinking water becomes undrinkable?
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Gotta show my property law instructor.
Paladin
(28,591 posts)....but it's been established law in many states for decades, pre-dating fracking technology, Dick Cheney, the Koch bros., GOP governors, etc. Any time an active oil and gas region is developed, it's likely that some form of force pooling actions are going to arise, and some of the people affected aren't going to be happy. Unfortunate but true.
They_Live
(3,281 posts)But that does not make it right. The laws need to be changed.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)the corporate mindset is that freedom and democracy are commodities to be purchased like any others. If you can't buy them you're not entitled to them.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)blm
(113,711 posts)Gee - could be their biggest advertisers are making sure they don't talk about it.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)outrageous.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)force against someone who didn't want a well on their property? Would they support regulations that would choke the property owners into abandoning their homes?
MO_Moderate
(377 posts)the property owners acted like, or claimed to be, "right-wing."
blm
(113,711 posts)And why the heck is the entire media so SILENT when the hypocrisy is so blatant?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)blm
(113,711 posts)bush loves moonies
chrisa
(4,524 posts)blm
(113,711 posts).